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Alexandria Aesirial
Masons of New Eden The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2011.11.02 15:50:00 -
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I'd like to know the overall dps increase the moros gets with the new 5% ROF bonus + 5% dmg per level. I'm guessing the values will be around super cap dps level. CCP, nerf it before it hits SISI!!!! It's only blobbing when you lose, otherwise it's good fleet comp. |
xenodia
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION ORPHANS OF EVE
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Posted - 2011.11.02 16:08:00 -
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Alexandria Aesirial wrote:I'd like to know the overall dps increase the moros gets with the new 5% ROF bonus + 5% dmg per level. I'm guessing the values will be around super cap dps level. CCP, nerf it before it hits SISI!!!!
Um.... you do know that that change was to offset the loss of all drones (which were a significant part of Moros's DPS) right ?
As someone whos been a Moros pilot pretty much since they were put in game, I actually hate the changes. Ive always been willing to accept that moros was handicapped on its "primary' weapons system (failbrids), because of the knowledge that with its drone bay and bonuses the moros had its niche as the only dread that could really be effective against sub caps. Now that niche is going away. Oh yay... we get a buff to a weapons system that still sucks, in exchange for completely removing the only weapons system we had that actually worked like it was supposed to. Anyone know where I can buy some confetti to celebrate ?
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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
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Posted - 2011.11.02 16:34:00 -
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first post MAD second post SAD |
SOLMEN
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.02 16:47:00 -
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Personally, I look forward to this boost. I just fear the cap issues that will be caused by it. |
Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.02 16:50:00 -
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hmm rly did anyone check how much that will be ? and the other dreads? |
Dravidshky
Falling Outside The Normal Moral Constraints
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Posted - 2011.11.02 16:51:00 -
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I think someone calculated the new DPS with antimatter and all lvl 5 skill to somewhere around +10k dps |
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.02 16:57:00 -
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SOLMEN wrote:Personally, I look forward to this boost. I just fear the cap issues that will be caused by it.
30% less issue, actually. Dev blogs are your friend. |
Zarnak Wulf
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.02 17:07:00 -
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You're still dead if a titan looks at you. |
Goose99
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.02 20:51:00 -
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With the new changes, Revelations are now the only dreads worth getting. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
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Posted - 2011.11.02 21:06:00 -
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Alexandria Aesirial wrote:I'd like to know the overall dps increase the moros gets with the new 5% ROF bonus + 5% dmg per level. I'm guessing the values will be around super cap dps level. CCP, nerf it before it hits SISI!!!!
Old Turret Damage Bonus = 1 + Gallente Dreadnought * 5% Damage
New Turret Damage Bonus = (1 + Gallente Dreadnought * 5% Damage) / (1 - Gallente Dreadnought * 5% RoF) |
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2011.11.02 21:17:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Old Damage Bonus = 1 + Gallente Dreadnought * 5%
New Damage Bonus = (1 + Gallente Dreadnought * 5% Damage) / (1 - Gallente Dreadnought * 5% RoF)
Maths are fine and good, but isn't it getting the RoF bonus on top of the damage bonus (and instead of the drone bonus)? Which would give it 5 effective turrets ((3 * 5 * 4)/(4 * 3)) at max skills (which is multiplied by 8.4 with SMII).
Whether that's a reasonable amount of damage -- meh. I suspect it is. But that appears to give 5/42 effective turrets out of siege/in siege. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
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Posted - 2011.11.02 21:17:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:Old Damage Bonus = 1 + Gallente Dreadnought * 5%
New Damage Bonus = (1 + Gallente Dreadnought * 5% Damage) / (1 - Gallente Dreadnought * 5% RoF) Maths are fine and good, but isn't it getting the RoF bonus on top of the damage bonus (and instead of the drone bonus)? Which would give it 5 effective turrets ((3 * 5 * 4)/(4 * 3)) at max skills (which is multiplied by 8.4 with SMII). Whether that's a reasonable amount of damage -- meh. I suspect it is. But that appears to give 5/42 effective turrets out of siege/in siege. The formula is only for turrets as I don't know how to easily add drone damage to the old turrets. Drone damage depends on different skills and the drones used, so that would have to be converted into equivalent turret damage. |
Nimrod Nemesis
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.02 21:34:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:With the new changes, Revelations are now the only dreads worth getting.
It's been like that for a long while, tbh. |
Gabriel Karade
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.11.02 22:42:00 -
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Dravidshky wrote:I think someone calculated the new DPS with antimatter and all lvl 5 skill to somewhere around +10k dps Bit over 10k when accounting for Navy Mag. stabs, gunnery implants and the siege module buff (10,663 if I'm recalling correctly what my old fit used to put out...)
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.02 23:04:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:You're still dead if a titan looks at you.
It's not like if Titans were there to kill caps and supers, they're already so good at one shooting BS size under remote tracking |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.02 23:06:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Alexandria Aesirial wrote:I'd like to know the overall dps increase the moros gets with the new 5% ROF bonus + 5% dmg per level. I'm guessing the values will be around super cap dps level. CCP, nerf it before it hits SISI!!!! Looking at only turret damage: Old Turret Damage Bonus = 1 + Gallente Dreadnought * 5% Damage Gallente Dreadnought 1: 105% Gallente Dreadnought 2: 110% Gallente Dreadnought 3: 115% Gallente Dreadnought 4: 120% Gallente Dreadnought 5: 125% New Turret Damage Bonus = (1 + Gallente Dreadnought * 5% Damage) / (1 - Gallente Dreadnought * 5% RoF) Gallente Dreadnought 1: 110% Gallente Dreadnought 2: 122% Gallente Dreadnought 3: 135% Gallente Dreadnought 4: 150% Gallente Dreadnought 5: 167% Assuming there is both a damage and rate of fire bonus.
The 42% dmg increase if by far superior the dps you could get with 5 sentry out, right?
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.02 23:12:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote: The 42% dmg increase if by far superior the dps you could get with 5 sentry out, right?
hell yes... crazy dps with blasters now... need to buy faction tracking comps so i can do 11k dps out to 70 km... and with 5 min siege mode or even better tech II siege mod that gives 800% damage boost... so 11k just went even higher
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