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Duke matar
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.26 13:18:00 -
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Hello,
I'm back in EVE after one year break and i'm pvp oriented. But I cant set my mind on wherever i would live. I used to live in 0.0 for few months, and I was involved into low sec piracy and FW as well for few months.
However i would like your point of view on what is the best place for fast paced pvp action, mostly solo & small gangs. From my little experience here is what I remember:
Null sec:
Pros: fleets, more stressy, good good isk income Cons: can take hours to find a target, "who will blob who 1st", can be boring at times, cant solo
Piracy
Pros: fast paced action, lots of targets Cons: gate/station camps are boring as hell and its pretty much the only way to find targets
FW
Pros: Lots of targets, good opportunity to 1vs1 or small gangs, good isk income Cons: Brainless militias, nobody plays the objectives, lots of spies
I'm open for suggestions and different point of view. Thanks for reading :) |
Zarnak Wulf
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
1394
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Posted - 2013.10.26 13:34:00 -
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I fled from Null a long time ago and haven't looked back. Null's Golden Age ended IMHO after 2009. If you want small gang roams and dynamic PvP then say away from Null. Generous ship replacement programs as well as lucrative isk making opportunities for Nullbears (looking at you FW) made small roam targets rarer and rarer. And you are as likely to get hot dropped or blobbed in leet PvP! |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
1592
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Posted - 2013.10.26 13:48:00 -
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Duke matar wrote:Hello,
I'm back in EVE after one year break and i'm pvp oriented. But I cant set my mind on wherever i would live. I used to live in 0.0 for few months, and I was involved into low sec piracy and FW as well for few months.
However i would like your point of view on what is the best place for fast paced pvp action, mostly solo & small gangs. From my little experience here is what I remember:
Null sec:
Pros: fleets, more stressy, good good isk income Cons: can take hours to find a target, "who will blob who 1st", can be boring at times, cant solo
Piracy
Pros: fast paced action, lots of targets Cons: gate/station camps are boring as hell and its pretty much the only way to find targets
FW
Pros: Lots of targets, good opportunity to 1vs1 or small gangs, good isk income Cons: Brainless militias, nobody plays the objectives, lots of spies
I'm open for suggestions and different point of view. Thanks for reading :)
Not true at all
In over a year of being a "pirate" i have not gate/station camped once. BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
Duke matar
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.10.26 14:44:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Not true at all
In over a year of being a "pirate" i have not gate/station camped once.
I said "From my little experience" But feel free to explain more please. |
Shadow Adanza
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
111
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Posted - 2013.10.26 17:01:00 -
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Whether you're FW or pirate in lowsec, use FW plexes to find your fights. Learn what corps have members who usually run away and which ones don't. The only con to this is the plex rat with make your killmail look a little less cool. But I get most of my pvp in plexes by a long shot. Hey! You're no zombie! |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
1592
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Posted - 2013.10.26 22:40:00 -
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Duke matar wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Not true at all
In over a year of being a "pirate" i have not gate/station camped once.
I said "From my little experience" But feel free to explain more please.
There is no functional difference between being in FW and pirate other than you have twice as many targets, don't get payed for kills and gate guns are always against you.
So basically its ManMode. BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
739
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Posted - 2013.10.27 00:59:00 -
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Duke matar wrote: Pros: fast paced action, lots of targets Cons: gate/station camps are boring as hell and its pretty much the only way to find targets
See the bolded part where I am conflicted. A couple of archetype targets for piracy would be:
+ Haulers + blockade runners (at gates and POCOs) + Poorly defended carebear POS or POCOs (sieges / extortion rackets) + Ratters (belts + anomalies) + Covops Explorers (counter-probe and kill them with creative Covops fits) + DED Explorers (shinier ships with shinier loot, plus chance for faction PVE drops) + Rival pirates (pretty much everywhere)
Sure, it can be slow at times to find targets. ISK making oppurtunities are somewhat less but since the introduction of security tags, I'd say it depends on how greedy you are for pod kills. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
1592
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Posted - 2013.10.27 10:38:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Duke matar wrote: Pros: fast paced action, lots of targets Cons: gate/station camps are boring as hell and its pretty much the only way to find targets
See the bolded part where I am conflicted. A couple of archetype targets for piracy would be: + Haulers + blockade runners (at gates and POCOs) + Poorly defended carebear POS or POCOs (sieges / extortion rackets) + Ratters (belts + anomalies) + Covops Explorers (counter-probe and kill them with creative Covops fits) + DED Explorers (shinier ships with shinier loot, plus chance for faction PVE drops) + Rival pirates (pretty much everywhere) Sure, it can be slow at times to find targets. ISK making oppurtunities are somewhat less then null/wspace but since the introduction of security tags, I'd say it depends on how greedy you are for pod kills. From a purely NBSI standpoint I'd also say your locale is less important then the group you fly with.
Standard targets for pirates is anyone and everyone who is in low sec =/
Probably about half our kills are FW guys for example. BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
bubble trout
Sky Fighters
77
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Posted - 2013.10.28 08:46:00 -
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Just gonna say, W-Space best space. We get to fly in every space, and never have to worry about gate camps. |
Major Killz
La Fraternite
262
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Posted - 2013.10.28 11:29:00 -
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bubble trout wrote:Just gonna say, W-Space best space. We get to fly in every space, and never have to worry about gate camps.
Yeah!? For hiding and getting lost you mean? - Killz
Combat Log: http://www.youtube.com/user/kdsalmon/videos - Pantaloon II: Violins (Jun 23, 2013) |
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Phaade
The Lonetrek Militia Rapidus Incitus Pactum
112
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Posted - 2013.10.28 18:38:00 -
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Low Sec.
Null is terrible, unless you like waiting 2 hours for fleets, and then roaming for 2 more before finding a fight. |
Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
149
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Posted - 2013.10.28 19:35:00 -
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To be honest, for pvp you should be considering wormholes vs lowsec. Don't even think about nullsec. My 2 cents is lowsec is superior if you like solo, small gangs, T1 small hull fights, constant action, and/or low-risk pvp. Wormholes are best if you like to do some carebearing with the once in a while mix of the ultimate in small/medium gang super bling fleets where every pilot matters. QCATS is recruiting: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |
Solutio Letum
Terpene Conglomerate
199
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:12:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Duke matar wrote:Hello,
I'm back in EVE after one year break and i'm pvp oriented. But I cant set my mind on wherever i would live. I used to live in 0.0 for few months, and I was involved into low sec piracy and FW as well for few months.
However i would like your point of view on what is the best place for fast paced pvp action, mostly solo & small gangs. From my little experience here is what I remember:
Null sec:
Pros: fleets, more stressy, good good isk income Cons: can take hours to find a target, "who will blob who 1st", can be boring at times, cant solo
Piracy
Pros: fast paced action, lots of targets Cons: gate/station camps are boring as hell and its pretty much the only way to find targets
FW
Pros: Lots of targets, good opportunity to 1vs1 or small gangs, good isk income Cons: Brainless militias, nobody plays the objectives, lots of spies
I'm open for suggestions and different point of view. Thanks for reading :) Not true at all In over a year of being a "pirate" i have not gate/station camped once.
Sorry there is no such thing has being a pirate in eve, most people who call them selves pirates are gate camping 24/7 |
Vatski
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:26:00 -
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Although I am new, it was pretty easy to see that
LowSec or NPC Null is the most interesting gaming experience, since no one really controls it. It looks like a "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" sort of thing with everyone making their own path, rather than some vet player telling you what's up and how/what to fly... modest agreements to not shoot certain strategic allies, but knowing that they may turn on you when it pleases them...
my noob two cents. |
Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
42
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:37:00 -
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Andre Vauban wrote:To be honest, for pvp you should be considering wormholes vs lowsec. Don't even think about nullsec. My 2 cents is lowsec is superior if you like solo, small gangs, T1 small hull fights, constant action, and/or low-risk pvp. Wormholes are best if you like to do some carebearing with the once in a while mix of the ultimate in small/medium gang super bling fleets where every pilot matters.
NPC Null and FW lowsec remind me of the good old days of EVE, where what you can control and what you can claim directly depended on how much work you were willing to put in on a regular basis to secure it.
Constant fights, constant content, no waiting around for some bigshot to tell us where to go and what to do. Just get out there and make it happen. |
Platypus King
Doughboys Shadow Cartel
7
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Posted - 2013.10.29 15:20:00 -
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Low sec pirating in a corp that's not in FW is the best option for pure pvp every time you log on. No blues is a good thing. |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
477
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Posted - 2013.10.29 15:21:00 -
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FW Lowsec, hands down.
Duke matar wrote:
However i would like your point of view on what is the best place for fast paced pvp action, mostly solo & small gangs.
http://thewaysofthemew.blogspot.com
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Red Teufel
Mafia Redux Phobia.
254
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Posted - 2013.10.29 17:50:00 -
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WH is where it's at friend. |
Trinkets friend
Rules of Acquisition Acquisition Of Empire
1207
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Posted - 2013.10.30 05:52:00 -
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As if. I spent 3 days trap-assed in a C4. Fast paced PVP action it ain't. Though I did nearly lose a billion ISK Proteus due to a misjump. EXCITING!
Nullsec Pros: No, we call them sex workers. Seriously....ISK is meh, you make more in incursions, C5's and scamming Jita with "zomg look who screwed up a buy order on flaming arkonor! lol!" or whatever.
Cons: The guys running the show, who've inherited a broke-ass system of rent collection and Q.Q hard on the CSM every time there's a serious idea threatening their "drop POS collect cookie" cheques. Though now they've got siphons, so...pff.
There is a reason Black legion bases out of Sendaya. There's a reason PL bases out of NPC null. That reason is boring as batschnitzels sov grinding. I would rather be teabaggged by a rabid babboon than hump RF timers, only to be hotdropped and bubbled.
Lowsec piracy Pros: You shoot everything. Cons: People think you are a Bad Man. Also, the eyepatches.
Faction Warfare Pros: Now you get to be in a nullsec alliance. Cons: You have to hand around with idiots from Reddit fighting idiots from their mother's basement, over meaningless butanz while listening to the bittervets call you a scrub and throw hissy fits on coms when their home system is at 96% and "no one of you scrubs is coming to deplex! halp!". Then you mute Baha and it's not so bad.
Wormhole space Pros: It is where real men go to coat their scrotes in yak sweat and yeti grease and fight over the carcasses of the frost giants, before Blood union comes and evicts them summarily. Cons: its war, man. 99% boredom, 1% pure terror. YOLO is the Carpe Diem of Gen Y http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Potanski
Phoenix Co. Against ALL Authorities
0
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Posted - 2013.11.04 19:11:00 -
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As a member of AAA In Catch (Null) I find it to be great. CTA (Call to Arms) like 3 times a day at the moment.
I enjoy running Logistics myself, Lots of ISK to be made.
Running Anoms is also fun and profitable. |
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Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
470
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Posted - 2013.11.04 20:26:00 -
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I'm a pirate with over 2000 kills in lowsec. I can confirm I have never, ever station camped and have probably participated in less than 5 gatecamps. |
Luis Alejandro Flores
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.11.05 07:01:00 -
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Watch this video. Pretend the word football means nullsec. And the word baseball means lowsec. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzhnMiB_Dro |
Anomaly One
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.11.05 08:53:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Duke matar wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Not true at all
In over a year of being a "pirate" i have not gate/station camped once.
I said "From my little experience" But feel free to explain more please. There is no functional difference between being in FW and pirate other than you have twice as many targets, don't get payed for kills and gate guns are always against you. So basically its ManMode.
I like this comment so much. |
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