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Lance Stratos
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.30 22:01:00 -
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So there are no true binary star systems in eve. yes wormholes and all that stuff but those are just object in the wallpaper for the system.
one of my corp dudes said it was something about the code; the star is the middle of the system and the 0,0,0 location (x,y,z). But couldn't CCP just take like the 1st or second planet, rename the celestial body to "Jita B" and give it a star skin and a light source?
Then there also being other system with 3 "stars" or even some systems where the star has died and puts off a very faint light (or none at all )?
Now i ask you all, my peers, fellow capsuliers, and people who like building sand castles and kick over others: "Thought?" |
Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
140
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Posted - 2013.10.30 22:04:00 -
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As cool as this sounds I am not sure what it would add to tear collection game play. |
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
357
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Posted - 2013.10.30 22:26:00 -
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All habitable systems in eve are at least binary systems, jump gates don't work with single stars. |
Jason Itiner
Sectatores Pax
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Posted - 2013.10.30 22:54:00 -
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Dorian Wylde wrote:All habitable systems in eve are at least binary systems, jump gates don't work with single stars.
Even though we only see one star, which I find strange. But otherwise, yes: all EVE systems are binaries, since the gates can only be situated at precise locations where the gravitational waves generated by the orbiting stars form certain nodes. |
Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.10.30 22:56:00 -
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Dorian Wylde wrote:All habitable systems in eve are at least binary systems, jump gates don't work with single stars. If I remember right, that only applied to the early jump gates built by the Amarr. Nowadays, it's possible to link single star systems just fine. |
Kane Fenris
NWP
105
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:08:00 -
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i would like to see systems with 2 or 3 stars |
Jasmine Assasin
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:09:00 -
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Jennifer Maxwell wrote:Dorian Wylde wrote:All habitable systems in eve are at least binary systems, jump gates don't work with single stars. If I remember right, that only applied to the early jump gates built by the Amarr. Nowadays, it's possible to link single star systems just fine.
Yeah, even if true I think this bit of canon could be changed easily enough w/o too many people getting upset. |
Iudicium Vastus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
134
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:38:00 -
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In reality, many of the binary star systems we know of don't necessarily appear as two whole "Suns" in the day sky to any nearby planets, but rather the twin star is far off and only appears as a slightly brighter than normal star in the sky. |
Travasty Space
Pilots of Epic
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:55:00 -
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Iudicium Vastus wrote:In reality, many of the binary star systems we know of don't necessarily appear as two whole "Suns" in the day sky to any nearby planets, but rather the twin star is far off and only appears as a slightly brighter than normal star in the sky.
Such as the rumors of our sun having one of those. |
Residium Fall
People for the Ethical Treatment of Everything
10
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:31:00 -
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Travasty Space wrote:Iudicium Vastus wrote:In reality, many of the binary star systems we know of don't necessarily appear as two whole "Suns" in the day sky to any nearby planets, but rather the twin star is far off and only appears as a slightly brighter than normal star in the sky. Such as the rumors of our sun having one of those. lol wtf?
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Iudicium Vastus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
136
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:44:00 -
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Residium Fall wrote:Travasty Space wrote:Iudicium Vastus wrote:In reality, many of the binary star systems we know of don't necessarily appear as two whole "Suns" in the day sky to any nearby planets, but rather the twin star is far off and only appears as a slightly brighter than normal star in the sky. Such as the rumors of our sun having one of those. lol wtf?
just a theory.
But does bring up the other point that while a binary (or more) system can have a primary star, the companions are most often not even equal in luminosity or mass. So even if the second star was close, least by astronomical terms anyway, it wouldn't shine enough to be considered a second sun to any orbiting planets around the primary star. It would still just be another dot in the night sky, if visible at all. |
Hesod Adee
Turalyon Plus Turalyon Alliance
110
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Posted - 2013.10.31 07:04:00 -
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Dorian Wylde wrote:All habitable systems in eve are at least binary systems, jump gates don't work with single stars. According to the lore article you're using as your source, systems can also only have one jump gate active at a time and it can take days to change which one is activated. Which is blatantly not true. There are also other things that are wrong in there that I can't recall right now.
Given all the other errors, I see no reason to believe that the author of that article knew what they were talking about. As such, I see no reason to believe him on the binary star claim. |
Komodo Askold
Legion of Darkwind
57
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Posted - 2013.10.31 09:08:00 -
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From what I imagine after reading CCP Seagull's future vision, I see new systems plausible: if some of them had more variated 'landscapes', it would be a very welcome change. Also, binary systems and dwarf stars are very common in real life, so why not in New Eden? |
Hyuna Saraki
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
3
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Posted - 2013.10.31 16:20:00 -
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Why everyone refers to the lore is beyond me. Basically we are talking visuals here. And sorry, but there are not two stars in our eve systems. Eve is often praised for it's beautiful visuals. So I do see the point to make the visuals more varied, without any effect on the physics or ecosystems. A second star in system wouldn't have any effect on the system but would allow for some breathtaking visuals. So lets take a step back from lore or overly realistic displays of binary star systems where the binary would be just another star in the night sky. This is a sci-fi game and I believe some sci-fi visuals would be a welcome addition. |
Lance Stratos
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.10.31 20:01:00 -
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All I am asking is for a freaking second star i can warp to in some systems or make it extremely dark in some systems.
forget about lore, it's not like eve has a game-play story line or campaign. |
Iudicium Vastus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2013.10.31 20:50:00 -
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Lance Stratos wrote:All I am asking is for a freaking second star i can warp to in some systems or make it extremely dark in some systems.
forget about lore, it's not like eve has a game-play story line or campaign.
What would be interesting is to see some systems that are star-less. We do have irl confirmation of a thing called Rogue Planers. So maybe a planet or two that have unique system/visual properties like no lightsource besides dim moonlight style lighting. |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
85
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Posted - 2013.10.31 21:29:00 -
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Lance Stratos wrote:All I am asking is for a freaking second star i can warp to in some systems or make it extremely dark in some systems.
forget about lore, it's not like eve has a game-play story line or campaign.
Some more variety would indeed be a nice touch to the game. As in real Red Giants or White Dwarfs, or real Binaries - but that would require more than just visual changes and instead changes to the functionalities of the sky box itself. Darker systems and actual brightness/sun size change according to your distance from the sun were talked about in FF12 iirc and are supposed to make it to the game at some point. |
Angry Wife Agro
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.11.06 07:49:00 -
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It feels like all star systems in EVE online look the same with some randomization of planets. Nothing much to look at besides nebulas. Two or three stars in the same system is an interesting idea. Even if CCP can't do that, they could improve visuals of existing stars to look better and more different from each other
EDIT: look at the sizes of these stars http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=g4iD-9GSW-0#t=41, CCP could make something similar. Imagine that you jump into a star system and are amazed by the size of the star |
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