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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2013.10.30 22:13:00 -
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... gotten liked, because the observer acknowledges the writers opinion, doesn't that mean that the observer and the writer both have a common thought ?
What does that say about the writer ?
Does him having many common thoughts make him literally bigger than the sum of his thoughts ?
What if the writer is conscious about this ?
This needs a deeper look.
The observer subconsciously perceives the writer as a sum of common thoughts, or, more clearly speaking, as somebody people agree a lot with.
Given the writer is conscious about this, how unlikely is manipulation ?
People tend to keep agreeing to those who get agreed to a lot or those who are perceived of being in a position of "higher knowledge/power".
This also goes, as you know, hand in hand.
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Yeah, i know, but how unlikely is manipulation really ??
What about Tippia ? :D Does anybody remember Akita T ? (always loved reading your posts. ^_^)
"Alice Saki" is ... well, herself. *lol* I'd not want to call her a *****, (on the forums) but in context of *Likes* it's pretty much the case. Personally, i wished i could ever pull off 100k likes in such a short amount of time.
It's the first one ever, with the next at distance. ^_^
What about writers "representing" shared interest ? WiS. Is there a pro-WiS person with a high amount of Likes due to being the sum of common thoughts?
And if so, where is s/he ?
If we gathered "representatives" together to create a fruitfull discussion, would it help ?
Imagine Tippia starts a thread about whatever controversal topic and completely owns it by logic and analysis, ending all discussion about it undisbutable and forever.
As Tippia is Tippia, a fewdozens hundreds of people will like her post, pretty much making her thread a perfect reference to use for the next time the topic comes up.
Assuming they'd link it. That's an "unknown", because - so far - there is not a single thread about any of all these dead-beaten horses that are made by randoms/trolls in General Discussions.
I am actually certain that, given the maker of the thread, more people will simply end the discussion, because there i no point in keeping it anyway. All things have been said.
Imagine that.
We could crown Tippia as Queen of the Forums. As Queen, she needs a King too and i suggest Chribba as the King of the Forums, because he has AAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the data about it. Easily accessible. He knows his ****. ^_^
And what about that new girl on the forums, that's working out on the treadmill while mining ?
She keeps pushing into General Discussions. Interesting to watch. ^_^
Anyhow, the weed turned down.
Oh btw ... did you know that there's a concept called "cheap pops" ?
I know that from WWE, a short explanation about "crowd management".
CM Punk explained it and he's pretty meta. ^_^ He has proven it to be true right on the spot. *lol*
Every time a wrestler on TV mentions the name of the town/city/state they are in, people cheer. A bonus fun fact to this is that they always cheer, no matter what you talk about.
I'm sure there's a youtube video about this somewhere ..................
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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2013.10.30 22:18:00 -
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Ah, yes.
Proof of "cheap pops" : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3806871#post3806871
^_^ |
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
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Posted - 2013.10.30 22:46:00 -
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my likes are of a generally higher quality than your likes, solstice. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2013.10.30 22:48:00 -
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Eurydia Vespasian wrote:my likes are of a generally higher quality than your likes, solstice. I have no idea who you are. :(
Edit: Ah wait, yes, i recall that face.
Who do you "represent" ? :D |
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
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Posted - 2013.10.30 22:56:00 -
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pretty much just myself. screw those other bitches. lol |
Kyseth
Touring New Eden
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Posted - 2013.10.30 22:57:00 -
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You earned a like because I do like the content of your writing. There is, perhaps, a deeper essence to what you ask. If you did not intend as such, that matters not as that is how it was received by me. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:00:00 -
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Kyseth wrote:You earned a like because I do like the content of your writing. There is, perhaps, a deeper essence to what you ask. If you did not intend as such, that matters not as that is how it was received by me. I like how you think about this. :) |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:02:00 -
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It's the stream-of-consciousness philosophy, combined with the Surrealists' Automatic Writing paradigm.
I don't even........... "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:05:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:It's the stream-of-consciousness philosophy, combined with the Surrealists' Automatic Writing paradigm. I don't even........... What ? :/ |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:08:00 -
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Eurydia Vespasian wrote:pretty much just myself. screw those other bitches. lol Checked your posts. Interesting. Regular nice guy. Family ? |
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Bischopt
Arbitrary Repossession
335
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:16:00 -
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Eh, the eve forums don't matter. All the truly fun subjects aren't even allowed. Like politics and religion. And forum moderation.
Man, would I like to start a thread about religion and watch the forums burn. THAT'S a discussion (that will make your brain bleed).
Anyway, the idea that people only receive likes when somebody agrees with them is, of course, wrong. Funny posts get likes even if there's no agreeing happening on a rational level. Then there's the "like and get likes thread" where all the people with many likes post and get (empty, meaningless) likes.
The whole like system is silly. It's basically there to give your social status a numerical value, much like the amount of friends you have on facebook or some other similar site. |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:17:00 -
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I don't have enough likes, therefore I am incomplete. I have not been validated enough therefore I need to reevaluate my postions and stances and model them after the crowd
F------ that!!! Off to LAGL......never mind I can't keep up there |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:19:00 -
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Bischopt wrote:Eh, the eve forums don't matter. All the truly fun subjects aren't even allowed. Like politics and religion. And forum moderation.
Man, would I like to start a thread about religion and watch the forums burn. THAT'S a discussion (that will make your brain bleed).
Anyway, the idea that people only receive likes when somebody agrees with them is, of course, wrong. Funny posts get likes even if there's no agreeing happening on a rational level. Then there's the "like and get likes thread" where all the people with many likes post and get (empty, meaningless) likes.
The whole like system is silly. It's basically there to give your social status a numerical value, much like the amount of friends you have on facebook or some other similar site.
We have had numerous pleasant discussions on religion and politics over the years and a good number of really bad ones. Either way, we can keep them going for a good while in OOPE as long as we are able to keep things cool enough to not get someone to report the thread |
Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
313
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:19:00 -
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Like-ception ?!? If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4247
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:20:00 -
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Bischopt wrote:Eh, the eve forums don't matter. All the truly fun subjects aren't even allowed. Like politics and religion. And forum moderation.
Man, would I like to start a thread about religion and watch the forums burn. THAT'S a discussion (that will make your brain bleed).
Anyway, the idea that people only receive likes when somebody agrees with them is, of course, wrong. Funny posts get likes even if there's no agreeing happening on a rational level. Then there's the "like and get likes thread" where all the people with many likes post and get (empty, meaningless) likes.
The whole like system is silly. It's basically there to give your social status a numerical value, much like the amount of friends you have on facebook or some other similar site. Well, somebody agreeing to your sense of humour still sounds like an agreement to me.
Of course, whoring threads make the whole like system absurd, as i have subtle pointed out by referrencing Alice Saki, but that doesn't hurt the thread at all.
Anyhow, judging the system is completely pointless. ^_^ |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
66612
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:22:00 -
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Bischopt wrote:Eh, the eve forums don't matter. All the truly fun subjects aren't even allowed. Like politics and religion. And forum moderation.
This is a game forum. That's why. What's not to understand ? "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Commissar Kate
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:36:00 -
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Likes are pointless, you can still be shitposter and have tons of likes. It has nothing to do with actual quality of the writing. Just go to GD and look at some of the stuff that gets liked. I take likes with a grain of salt and actually judge the authors content by reading it. And It does seem that if others see a liked post they are more likely to like the post themselves even if its a shitpost
Also...
Popular players get liked more.
The HTFU posts get liked.
The posts that respond rudely to whiners get liked.
The lets all jump on the "whatever the subject is bandwagon" get liked.
The list goes on. |
Bischopt
Arbitrary Repossession
335
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:37:00 -
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Once again I seem to have given people the impression I was serious when I actually wasn't.
I don't want religion and politics to be discussed on this forum because I've spent time on another forum that revolves around those subjects and I know exactly how messy it gets every time.
I did mean what I said about the like system though. It's still silly. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
19904
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:37:00 -
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Some of us got lots of likes just for posting in LAGL
*nonchalantly points at Alice* "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?-á http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:38:00 -
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I care not for spacebook likes.
But if I don't get 1 million likes by the end of the month, my mom wont take me to Disneyland.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:39:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Some of us got lots of likes just for posting in LAGL *nonchalantly points at Alice* Did you fully read my post ? ^_^
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I care not for spacebook likes. But if I don't get 1 million likes by the end of the month, my mom wont take me to Disneyland.
I remember this.
Aside from it being a nice marketing stunt, i guess that people simply get more and more interconnected. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
19904
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:41:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Some of us got lots of likes just for posting in LAGL *nonchalantly points at Alice* Did you fully read my post ? ^_^
I did not
"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?-á http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny |
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:46:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Eurydia Vespasian wrote:pretty much just myself. screw those other bitches. lol Checked your posts. Interesting. Regular nice guy. Family ?
never thought i'd have my "posts checked" by someone? i feel somehow violated and unclean
*scrubs*
they don't make water hot enough. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2013.10.30 23:48:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Quote:Did you fully read my post ? ^_^ I did not I knew that. xD
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Eurydia Vespasian wrote:pretty much just myself. screw those other bitches. lol Checked your posts. Interesting. Regular nice guy. Family ? never thought i'd have my "posts checked" by someone? i feel somehow violated and unclean *scrubs* they don't make water hot enough. HAHAHAHAHAHAA XD |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2013.10.31 00:03:00 -
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I think the way I feel about it is that if someone 'likes' some smart ass comment I made, then I hopefully made that person smile or smirk, and frankly that's all its all about. I never expect people to LOL at anything I say, as most people who use the phrase LOL are rarely ever smiling..or laughing out loud.
I never liked (har dee har har bad dad pun) the concept of 'like' farming by spewing stuff people want to hear. Half the stuff I say is just pointing out the giant pink elephant in the room that most seem to ignore..and telling them that its there, the other half...well is just genuine giving people the finger while staying within the forum rules and shiptoasting for my own ***** and giggles.
So in closing, if I have given you a like, then be happy. I don't give them out very often, and if I did, then you either impressed me, genuinely made me laugh, or made my point even better than I could of. (were ignoring those 12 or so likes I handed out in the LAGL thread...I was going through a phase.)
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
66623
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Posted - 2013.10.31 01:16:00 -
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Bischopt wrote:Once again I seem to have given people the impression I was serious when I actually wasn't.
I don't want religion and politics to be discussed on this forum because I've spent time on another forum that revolves around those subjects and I know exactly how messy it gets every time.
This is the complete opposite of what you stated in that EVEmail you sent me ingame.
Someone is drunk. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.10.31 07:51:00 -
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There is a few reasons i will like someones post...
As Unsuccessful At Everything mentioned, i will like posts because the comment made me smile, or it was simply a very clever comment.
If the poster is saying something that i do agree with, and i want to "recognize" that persons post. Of course i could just quote it, but the like system is easy and dont "clutter" the thread.
On the rare occasions i end up in a forum discussion and i acknowledge that i have no good counter arguments. Sort of as a "ok you win". Again its more about recognizing the poster and avoid cluttering the thread with "pointless" posts.
Or if someone quotes me and its not really a question, but more a statement like "thank you" or similar i will often like the post just to acknowledge that i did see it but while i appreciate it i dont feel that further responses are needed. Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Ashana Shari
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Posted - 2013.10.31 09:55:00 -
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Everybody like to be "popular" - I think that is the answer
" There is only one religion, though there are a hundred versions of it. " |
Samoth Egnoled
Infinitech Catastrophic Uprising
24823
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Posted - 2013.10.31 10:04:00 -
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Gotta love posts like this. Also
Stay outta my head! o.o |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2013.10.31 10:39:00 -
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Just updating this for timestamp.
22 Likes and counting.
Cheap pops.
Playing around with stuff like this teaches a lot about people and, more so, about ones self.
And it's not about the likes.The Like is just a tool, one can use. The fun is in the riddle of figuring out what/when to say, without getting caught.
And then abusing it. ^_^
I'm still waiting for a proper explanation of the post made by Krixtal. :/ |
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