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jackncoke
Carbon Circle
70
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Posted - 2013.11.02 05:46:00 -
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If you stop and think, just for a second, THINK.
Stop throwing poo like an ape and think.
What would you do in SOMER-s place ?
Their business practice has been stoped, they were given crace period, hell yeah they will make one last epic bang.
Its simply - logical. The only reasonable thing to do. |
Frying Doom
3132
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Posted - 2013.11.02 05:51:00 -
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jackncoke wrote:If you stop and think, just for a second, THINK.
Stop throwing poo like an ape and think.
What would you do in SOMER-s place ?
Their business practice has been stoped, they were given crace period, hell yeah they will make one last epic bang.
Its simply - logical. The only reasonable thing to do. As i have said previously, if I was a business that is exactly what I would do.
If I was a community site I would shut down for fear of further damaging EvE (like the Community sites have done).
Shame being a business or using an account for or income-seeking purposes is a totally different EULA breach and is banable for that by its self. Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
jackncoke
Carbon Circle
70
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Posted - 2013.11.02 05:57:00 -
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Somer is buisness.
Somer stated this on more occasions, and Somer is HIM, not her.
Its as much as a community site as a local casino is a historical monument for masses to observe and marvel at. |
Anne Drommeda
For a Good Time Call
1
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Posted - 2013.11.02 06:09:00 -
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Lena Lazair wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:Once again, RMT is already legally incorporated into the game by CCP in the form of PLEX. It doesn't matter one bit where the money for said currency goes. You don't understand what people mean by RMT nor what makes RMT bad. Using real money to buy ISK is not a problem. Nobody cares except a very small contingent of "OMG PAY TO WIN!" diehards. The PLEX system CCP has is brilliant in that it allows $ -> ISK BUT NOT ISK -> $. All the evils of RMT/gold farming arise when the ISK -> $ transaction is allowed. RMT is about ISK -> $, which PLEX DOES NOT ALLOW. RMT leads to people doing anything they possibly can to exploit the game mechanics, account security, and any other method they can conceive of in order to gain ISK that they can then turn into $. They go to depths and extremes that people simply don't bother with when there is no way to get real $ out of the effort. THIS is what causes problems in games when RMT is rampant. CCP's PLEX system is genius in that it satisfies the demand for $ -> ISK in a way that is under their control and using a system that greatly limits the ability for people to cash out ISK -> $ in the other direction. In no small part because there is an official, sanctioned method to do $ -> ISK. As any government will tell you, you cannot control illegal supply so long as the demand exists and is being unmet, no matter how hard you try. CCP has funneled the demand into a system they control. That said, there are many arguments as to why the specific nature of Blink's RMT was not particularly bad for the game and did not cause many of the same issues that traditional RMT causes in an MMO game. Regardless, to claim that PLEX is RMT shows that you either don't understand what people mean by RMT or don't understand how PLEX works.
Well said.
Lot's of People who have no interest in participating in RMT still don't want to believe in the last part though as it breaks the notion that using a plex for their game time is the same as giving CCP $ (but there is no harm in them believing it if it helps them enjoy the game)
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5063
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Posted - 2013.11.02 07:11:00 -
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jackncoke wrote:Somer is buisness.
Somer stated this on more occasions, and Somer is HIM, not her.
Its as much as a community site as a local casino is a historical monument for masses to observe and marvel at. Honest and contributing to community There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Lugia3
Emerald Inc.
620
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Posted - 2013.11.02 07:32:00 -
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Down with Somer Blink! Find a different community to milk, capitalist bastards! "QQ threads are only allowed in the Out of Pod Experience forum." - ISD Cura Ursus |
KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
409
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Posted - 2013.11.02 07:39:00 -
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Glad to see all of my posts magically return to the thread.
Makes me hopeful that CCP is actually paying attention.
Get rid of SOMER...or let the rest of us "Redacted." No more dual standard rules. Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. |
Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
209
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Posted - 2013.11.02 08:06:00 -
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[07:50:06] Andren Vox > Sola - Nah, we've no desire to handle people's real money. Some eve players get crazy enough about the pretend money :p
[07:52:10] Andren Vox > Sola - CCP wants the rewards for referrals thing to stop all together. We're not gonna try and game our way around that request :p
[07:54:05] Forlorn Eskimo > its not about earning for blink its about paying for the server its a hobby after all
[07:59:36] Andren Vox > We're not worried about it, honestly. We'll let the banner stay up without the bonus and just see how it goes.
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this guy is such a weasel. the obama administration should hire him as their pr guy, he'd fit right in bet you Somer will have a big 'donate to' button up soon. cause the first $135k wasn't enough and the $500+k they are attempting to firesale now apprently isn't enough either |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5067
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Posted - 2013.11.02 08:14:00 -
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Ace Boogi wrote:[07:50:06] Andren Vox > Sola - Nah, we've no desire to handle people's real money. Some eve players get crazy enough about the pretend money :p [07:52:10] Andren Vox > Sola - CCP wants the rewards for referrals thing to stop all together. We're not gonna try and game our way around that request :p [07:54:05] Forlorn Eskimo > its not about earning for blink its about paying for the server its a hobby after all [07:59:36] Andren Vox > We're not worried about it, honestly. We'll let the banner stay up without the bonus and just see how it goes. --- this guy is such a weasel. the obama administration should hire him as their pr guy, he'd fit right in bet you Somer will have a big 'donate to' button up soon. cause the first $135k wasn't enough and the $500+k they are attempting to firesale now apprently isn't enough either a way to reward people for contributing to the community by donating to them huh There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3150
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Posted - 2013.11.02 08:15:00 -
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Ace Boogi wrote:[07:50:06] Andren Vox > Sola - Nah, we've no desire to handle people's real money. Some eve players get crazy enough about the pretend money :p [07:52:10] Andren Vox > Sola - CCP wants the rewards for referrals thing to stop all together. We're not gonna try and game our way around that request :p [07:54:05] Forlorn Eskimo > its not about earning for blink its about paying for the server its a hobby after all [07:59:36] Andren Vox > We're not worried about it, honestly. We'll let the banner stay up without the bonus and just see how it goes. --- this guy is such a weasel. the obama administration should hire him as their pr guy, he'd fit right in bet you Somer will have a big 'donate to' button up soon. cause the first $135k wasn't enough and the $500+k they are attempting to firesale now apprently isn't enough either
Well, whatever happens, I imagine that you will still be crazy jealous.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
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Rosewalker
Khumaak Flying Circus
40
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Posted - 2013.11.02 08:36:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Ace Boogi wrote:[07:50:06] Andren Vox > Sola - Nah, we've no desire to handle people's real money. Some eve players get crazy enough about the pretend money :p [07:52:10] Andren Vox > Sola - CCP wants the rewards for referrals thing to stop all together. We're not gonna try and game our way around that request :p [07:54:05] Forlorn Eskimo > its not about earning for blink its about paying for the server its a hobby after all [07:59:36] Andren Vox > We're not worried about it, honestly. We'll let the banner stay up without the bonus and just see how it goes. --- this guy is such a weasel. the obama administration should hire him as their pr guy, he'd fit right in bet you Somer will have a big 'donate to' button up soon. cause the first $135k wasn't enough and the $500+k they are attempting to firesale now apprently isn't enough either Well, whatever happens, I imagine that you will still be crazy jealous. Mr Epeen
I won't be jealous. Affiliate programs are okay, as long as they don't have the bonus. I just want them to stop breaking the EULA.
The Nosy Gamer - Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength - Eric Hoffer |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
477
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Posted - 2013.11.02 09:09:00 -
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Rosewalker wrote:
I won't be jealous. Affiliate programs are okay, as long as they don't have the bonus. I just want them to stop breaking the EULA.
You mean you want what is already happening...... The only argument left is over if their actions are violating the spirit of their 10 day grace period they were given to sort themselves out. Which is exactly the same grace period EVERYONE ELSE GOT! Caps so you don't miss it like the rest of the people flaming away here. If you feel they have violated said spirit, I suggest E-mailing Internal Affairs as above over that point and asking them to look into it.
Otherwise, your demands have already been answered, they do have to stop breaking the EULA. |
Frying Doom
3139
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Posted - 2013.11.02 10:06:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Rosewalker wrote:
I won't be jealous. Affiliate programs are okay, as long as they don't have the bonus. I just want them to stop breaking the EULA.
You mean you want what is already happening...... The only argument left is over if their actions are violating the spirit of their 10 day grace period they were given to sort themselves out. Which is exactly the same grace period EVERYONE ELSE GOT! Caps so you don't miss it like the rest of the people flaming away here. If you feel they have violated said spirit, I suggest E-mailing Internal Affairs as above over that point and asking them to look into it. Otherwise, your demands have already been answered, they do have to stop breaking the EULA. Shame about that other part of the EULA huh. Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
AnUnskilled Pilot
State War Academy Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.11.02 11:24:00 -
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Ccp were probably in on it. That's why they are so silent and treading so carefully. If it actually came out that CCP were in on it, it would have a chance of destroying the company. This whole thing reminds me of an emulated server where the gms just spawn themselves loot for their friends and buddies. I'll keep playing though since It fun to pvp in a frig and the amount of cheating / general corruption is above my few bil wallet value
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AnUnskilled Pilot
State War Academy Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.11.02 11:26:00 -
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I am happy to say that I got 16 plex and a zeolot for $134, which feels awesome since I've always paid double that amount |
IDGAD
Get in the van I have candy.
39
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Posted - 2013.11.02 11:41:00 -
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AnUnskilled Pilot wrote:I am happy to say that I got 16 plex and a zeolot for $134, which feels awesome since I've always paid double that amount
lol so they modified the slot picker and flooded their own accounts to win most blinks? |
AnUnskilled Pilot
State War Academy Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.11.02 11:57:00 -
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IDGAD wrote:AnUnskilled Pilot wrote:I am happy to say that I got 16 plex and a zeolot for $134, which feels awesome since I've always paid double that amount lol so they modified the slot picker and flooded their own accounts to win most blinks?
Not for isk. For real money. By seeding the somer market or feeding them isk. Some might have been able to do it on their own but the way ccp is supporting them and acting, makes you wonder how much monetary incentive ccp gets (or certain rogue employees get) Plex would be bought and sold without the existence of somer, at pretty much the same rate
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RAW23
412
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Posted - 2013.11.02 12:11:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:
Yeah? Guess what? CCP made the rules. CCP gets to decide to whom they apply. Not you, not the CSM and certainly not the army of forum trolls who somehow think they got a seat on the CCP board of directors.
CCP could be pulling a T20 scandal times 1000 and you'd still just have to sit here and take it because at the end of the day it's their game and they decide how to manage it. Don't like it? Biomass.
These assertions are so manifestly ungrounded in reality that it is hard to see why you would bother posting them.
Quote:you'd still just have to sit here and take it because at the end of the day it's their game and they decide how to manage it
You are saying something that flies completely in the teeth of the evidence. Even as players are not just sitting here and taking it you assert that they have no other choice. You do see that the very conversation you are involved in refutes your assertions don't you?
Perhaps what you mean is that doing anything other than just accepting it will always be futile? But that is obviously refuted by the historical record. Player objections to CCP policies have forced CCP to change track and continue to do so. Notable examples from the past include T20 and Incarna but even in the present debate a refusal to 'take it', which you claim is the only option, has already yielded results, including the change of one significant policy. You seem to be so upset about the success 'the army of forum trolls' is having that reason has just gone out of the window and you're reduced to shoring your own views up by just denying the reality unfolding around you. There are two types of EVE player:
those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not. |
mama guru
Thundercats The Initiative.
157
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Posted - 2013.11.02 13:36:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Argus Sorn wrote:https://twitter.com/somersetmahm/status/396090063248818176
If it is true, this makes me sick. Genuinely sick. Seriously? Because they Skyped with someone from CCP? Surely you're joking? Are you going to wildly vomit when I tell you that the organisers of EVE Vegas probably also had direct contact with some of the devs? Or... OH NO! The Mittani! For his role on the CSM and because he was asked as a speaker on EVE Vegas... Christ the feeling of entitlement is so big around this place it's blocking out the sun at this point. If you do special things in EVE (good or bad in your own opinion) you get special treatment. Bloggers get FREE (yes free, as in no money involved, SHOCKING!) media accounts. Are you going to vomit over that as well because not everyone has that privilege? All in all it's very similar to this thing you might know, called life. Life is not fair and neither is EVE, both in and outside of the game. Don't like it? Do something about it. P.S. Whining on a forum does not constitute 'doing something'.
Go **** yourself you complete moron.
This "oh it's np i talked to CCP on skype" is exactly the kind of **** that let Sirmolle and Dianabolic off the hook with the whole T20 thing.
Cheating ingame by spawning BPO's is one thing (especially if you loose the war anyway lol) but having a ******* shameless RMT shop sponsored by CCP Rise and his buddies is quite another. My money is better spent elsewhere, I'm ******* done with this game untill we get something remoteley resembling fair enforcement of the EULA.
"Entitlement" lol, what is this to you the teaparty community? Go **** yourself. ______
EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5073
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Posted - 2013.11.02 14:48:00 -
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mama guru wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:Argus Sorn wrote:https://twitter.com/somersetmahm/status/396090063248818176
If it is true, this makes me sick. Genuinely sick. Seriously? Because they Skyped with someone from CCP? Surely you're joking? Are you going to wildly vomit when I tell you that the organisers of EVE Vegas probably also had direct contact with some of the devs? Or... OH NO! The Mittani! For his role on the CSM and because he was asked as a speaker on EVE Vegas... Christ the feeling of entitlement is so big around this place it's blocking out the sun at this point. If you do special things in EVE (good or bad in your own opinion) you get special treatment. Bloggers get FREE (yes free, as in no money involved, SHOCKING!) media accounts. Are you going to vomit over that as well because not everyone has that privilege? All in all it's very similar to this thing you might know, called life. Life is not fair and neither is EVE, both in and outside of the game. Don't like it? Do something about it. P.S. Whining on a forum does not constitute 'doing something'. Go **** yourself you complete moron. This "oh it's np i talked to CCP on skype" is exactly the kind of **** that let Sirmolle and Dianabolic off the hook with the whole T20 thing. Cheating ingame by spawning BPO's is one thing (especially if you loose the war anyway lol) but having a ******* shameless RMT shop sponsored by CCP Rise and his buddies is quite another. My money is better spent elsewhere, I'm ******* done with this game untill we get something remoteley resembling fair enforcement of the EULA. "Entitlement" lol, what is this to you the teaparty community? Go **** yourself. shameless? they're an honest and substantial contributor to our community, what is there to be name-and-shamed for There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5073
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Posted - 2013.11.02 14:53:00 -
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RAW23 wrote:You are saying something that flies completely in the face of the evidence. Even as players are not just sitting here and taking it you assert that they have no other choice. You do see that the very conversation you are involved in refutes your assertions don't you?
Perhaps what you mean is that doing anything other than just accepting it will always be futile? But that is obviously refuted by the historical record. Player objections to CCP policies have forced CCP to change track and continue to do so. Notable examples from the past include T20 and Incarna but even in the present debate a refusal to 'take it', which you claim is the only option, has already yielded results, including the change of one significant policy. You seem to be so upset about the success 'the army of forum trolls' is having that reason has just gone out of the window and you're reduced to shoring your own views up by just denying the reality unfolding around you. I like how they are sounding the retreat for us. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17233
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Posted - 2013.11.02 15:00:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:shameless? they're an honest and substantial contributor to our community, what is there to be name-and-shamed for GǪwell, aside from them not having contributed anything to the community. Advertising your business does not count. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
281
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Posted - 2013.11.02 15:25:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:shameless? they're an honest and substantial contributor to our community, what is there to be name-and-shamed for GǪwell, aside from them not having contributed anything to the community. Advertising your business does not count. Hes quoting CCP [gettingpaidbysomer] |
Prince Kobol
1092
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Posted - 2013.11.02 15:29:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:shameless? they're an honest and substantial contributor to our community, what is there to be name-and-shamed for GǪwell, aside from them not having contributed anything to the community. Advertising your business does not count.
How much have you donated to player run events? |
Obunagawe
247
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Posted - 2013.11.02 15:31:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Tippia wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:shameless? they're an honest and substantial contributor to our community, what is there to be name-and-shamed for GǪwell, aside from them not having contributed anything to the community. Advertising your business does not count. How much have you donated to player run events?
Taking money from players then giving a very small part back to them (and redacteding the rest) doesn't sound very charitable. |
Kate stark
803
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Posted - 2013.11.02 15:32:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Tippia wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:shameless? they're an honest and substantial contributor to our community, what is there to be name-and-shamed for GǪwell, aside from them not having contributed anything to the community. Advertising your business does not count. How much have you donated to player run events?
if i got more isk from incursions every time i donated isk to something then i'd be the most philanthropic ************ in the game.
unfortunately my form of making isk isn't benefited by pretending to be benevolent. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17237
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Posted - 2013.11.02 15:32:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:How much have you donated to player run events? How much I have paid does not change the fact that advertising your business is not the same as contributing to the community.
The event organisers contributed; Somer did not. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Prince Kobol
1092
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Posted - 2013.11.02 15:40:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:How much have you donated to player run events? How much I have paid does not change the fact that advertising your business is not the same as contributing to the community. The event organisers contributed; Somer did not.
Still haven't answered my question.. no surprise there.
Also, if they were sponsoring player events for the sole purpose to promote their business as you say, then surely wouldn't they advertise the fact on their website every time they donated isk?
Maybe even post on the forum?
I mean its pretty crappy promotion if you keep donating isk to player events and not actually telling people that your doing it. |
Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
281
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Posted - 2013.11.02 15:44:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Tippia wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:How much have you donated to player run events? How much I have paid does not change the fact that advertising your business is not the same as contributing to the community. The event organisers contributed; Somer did not. Still haven't answered my question.. no surprise there. Also, if they were sponsoring player events for the sole purpose to promote their business as you say, then surely wouldn't they advertise the fact on their website every time they donated isk? Maybe even post on the forum? I mean its pretty crappy promotion if you keep donating isk to player events and not actually telling people that your doing it. But thats what you would do as a "community contributor" |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17238
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Posted - 2013.11.02 15:53:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:So in other words. GǪyou have no argument and have to resort to genetic fallacies in your silly attempt to deflect attention away from this fact.
Quote:So even a business as ruthless and evil such as Somer has contributed and helped player events Nope. They've only advertised their product, which rather precludes it from being a community contribution. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
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