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Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
449
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Posted - 2013.11.02 14:59:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Gridloader wrote:...dude just stop posting... you are idiot Did you like this post with your alt? some people like overly obvious trolls That explains at least 5 000 of your likes.
Now how to explain the last 73? |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2475
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Posted - 2013.11.02 15:05:00 -
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Please pardon our dust while we clean up this thread! ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Poultergoose4
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
17
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Posted - 2013.11.02 15:42:00 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Cleaned up the thread a bit. Please remember to keep it on topic and civil or we'll have to do that thing everyone hates. Thanks! Free RP??
Sorry... wrong game |
Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
182
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Posted - 2013.11.02 16:19:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Nathalie LaPorte wrote:Why is this thread so full of people who can't read? Please explain for the less literate of us how 5 Sentry drones do 121 K raw alpha, let alone modified alpha.
Sure. Full explanation here |
Lugia3
Emerald Inc.
622
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Posted - 2013.11.02 20:12:00 -
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Nathalie LaPorte wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Nathalie LaPorte wrote:Why is this thread so full of people who can't read? Please explain for the less literate of us how 5 Sentry drones do 121 K raw alpha, let alone modified alpha. Sure. Full explanation here
The reading comprehension is strong with this one. "QQ threads are only allowed in the Out of Pod Experience forum." - ISD Cura Ursus |
Icer Xx
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
6
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:20:00 -
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Well so thanks for the support. But to some people you are so stupid. |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
226
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:04:00 -
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Sala Cameron wrote:We've noticed this as well and brought the problem forward to CCP, so they're aware of it. tbh, i petitionned a few ship losses since a year where similar "weird" thing happen.
the answer was always the same: working has intended"
last one i even provided logs, showing the issue, the only answer i got was that CCP was not taking those as proof because of forged logs..... so yah, they aware, and they don't care....as usual.... |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
934
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:07:00 -
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Disregard everything else everyone was saying before, my ship just got killed by something so -NOW- its OP. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |
Khrane
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
18
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Posted - 2013.11.02 23:09:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:Sala Cameron wrote:We've noticed this as well and brought the problem forward to CCP, so they're aware of it. tbh, i petitionned a few ship losses since a year where similar "weird" thing happen. the answer was always the same: working has intended" last one i even provided logs, showing the issue, the only answer i got was that CCP was not taking those as proof because of forged logs..... so yah, they aware, and they don't care....as usual....
This sounds different than your case because here there is a server side kill mail that shows the erroneous damage done by 2 Ishtars in conjunction with a video and client side logs.
Three distinct point of views all showing the same thing.
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Makalu Zarya
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
137
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Posted - 2013.11.02 23:43:00 -
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i went to my logs as soon as I saw the killmail with the silly final damages done to the carrier. I found it a bit weird at the time that the carrier disappeared from 5% armor to dead, but didn't think much of it.
going back to the logs however i found this
[ 2013.10.31 00:44:00 ] (combat) 121148 to Icer Xx[P5YCH](Archon) - Curator II - Smashes
so we discovered this pretty much a few minutes after the killmail went up on eve-kill, frankly i'm as puzzled as everyone else.
My guess is that something with refitting bulkheads caused this, since I've never really seen anything like this before |
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Icer Xx
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
6
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Posted - 2013.11.02 23:47:00 -
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I had about 20 sec on coming out of triage so prob would of lived and warped off. |
Khrane
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
18
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:38:00 -
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Makalu Zarya wrote: as for petitioning the loss, he was going to die anyway, so i'm not sure what the point of this is, you should petition it as a bug, however the outcome would not be different, that carrier wasn't tanking in armor, there is no reason to think he was gonna tank in structure.
So you agree that he died to a bug but you don't think that calls for reimbursement? Isn't that the BEST reason to file a petition for reimbursement? Can we please get less trolling and personal opinions on this thread.
There are factual statements and logs showing that 2 lone sentry drones hit for over 250,000 damage and yet people come to this thread and fail to grasp what happened here thinking that OP is whining about sentries in general and not actually reading about this VERY serious bug which may or may not have been taken advantage of on purpose for in game monetary gain of rewards handed out for the Halloween event.
These are the facts. A bug occurred and a Pandemic Legion member profited as a direct result of the bug. Intentional or not it was exploited. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1757
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:44:00 -
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Khrane wrote:Makalu Zarya wrote: as for petitioning the loss, he was going to die anyway, so i'm not sure what the point of this is, you should petition it as a bug, however the outcome would not be different, that carrier wasn't tanking in armor, there is no reason to think he was gonna tank in structure.
So you agree that he died to a bug but you don't think that calls for reimbursement? Isn't that the BEST reason to file a petition for reimbursement? Can we please get less trolling and personal opinions on this thread. There are factual statements and logs showing that 2 lone sentry drones hit for over 250,000 damage and yet people come to this thread and fail to grasp what happened here thinking that OP is whining about sentries in general and not actually reading about this VERY serious bug which may or may not have been taken advantage of on purpose for in game monetary gain of rewards handed out for the Halloween event. These are the facts. A bug occurred and a Pandemic Legion member profited as a direct result of the bug. Intentional or not it was exploited. Losses from big fleet fights are not reimbursed, bug or not. GMs feel that would be too much like predicting the outcome of the fight. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1757
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:46:00 -
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Ah. To be clear, I'm not saying that a petition should not be made asking for reimbursement should this turn out to be a bug which it almost certainly is |
Jassmin Joy
Oblivion Watch HYDRA RELOADED
212
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:53:00 -
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Makalu Zarya wrote:i went to my logs as soon as I saw the killmail with the silly final damages done to the carrier. I found it a bit weird at the time that the carrier disappeared from 5% armor to dead, but didn't think much of it.
going back to the logs however i found this
[ 2013.10.31 00:44:00 ] (combat) 121148 to Icer Xx[P5YCH](Archon) - Curator II - Smashes
so we discovered this pretty much a few minutes after the killmail went up on eve-kill, frankly i'm as puzzled as everyone else.
My guess is that something with refitting bulkheads caused this, since I've never really seen anything like this before.
as for petitioning the loss, he was going to die anyway, so i'm not sure what the point of this is, you should petition it as a bug, however the outcome would not be different, that carrier wasn't tanking in armor, there is no reason to think he was gonna tank in structure.
He was literally just ending triage, had you not alpha'd him i'd have repped him as he aligned sinced i was 3/4 through my triage, tanked you then warped myself, so yes. he was surviving, easily. |
Jassmin Joy
Oblivion Watch HYDRA RELOADED
212
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Posted - 2013.11.03 00:58:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:. Losses from big fleet fights are not reimbursed, bug or not. GMs feel that would be too much like predicting the outcome of the fight. The only ship i've ever had reimbursed was a moros that got killed after a dc where the fault was server side, like this. so that's not true in the slightest. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1757
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Posted - 2013.11.03 01:01:00 -
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Jassmin Joy wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:. Losses from big fleet fights are not reimbursed, bug or not. GMs feel that would be too much like predicting the outcome of the fight. The only ship i've ever had reimbursed was a moros that got killed after a dc where the fault was server side, like this. so that's not true in the slightest. you got lucky, then. i'm basing what imma saying off a gm statement here in the forums. are you going to make me search it up? |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1757
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Posted - 2013.11.03 01:07:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:are you going to make me search it up? i was worried because searching these things is usually a hassle
fortunately for both of us, i'm great.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1827135#post1827135
e: oh you replied in the meantime :S |
Jassmin Joy
Oblivion Watch HYDRA RELOADED
212
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Posted - 2013.11.03 01:13:00 -
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http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14818622
Most if not all of the losses in that fight were reimbursed, perhaps we got lucky then. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1757
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Posted - 2013.11.03 01:17:00 -
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reimbursement santa works in mysterious ways |
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Kenrailae
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2013.11.03 02:23:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:reimbursement santa works in mysterious ways
Which basically sums up how the GM's handle petitions, and how consistent they are in applying their own statements to them, read 'Changes to ToS and scamming Debacle.'
Not filing a petition to at least try would be silly then.
All in all, those damage figures are hard to get off well skilled, seiged dreads. Yes, Drone assist is broken, but this isn't about drone assist.
That ship was, as stated multiple times, very nearly out of triage, with another carrier still in triage next to it, and a third out of triage as well.
It really is hard to say what WOULD have happened. SS was withdrawing from the combat arena, but we were still stable enough to hold our ground. PL was on field in their ishtar fleet, which does have high alpha and damage projection. Who knows?
That ship being reimbursed though is also not the focus of this thread.
The focus is in and how sentry drones operate, how they can get both 2 damage and 129,000+ damage. CCP, Pls fix. Kinda important. The Law is a point of View |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1757
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Posted - 2013.11.03 03:03:00 -
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Kenrailae wrote:Not filing a petition to at least try would be silly then. I agree
Quote:That ship being reimbursed though is also not the focus of this thread. sorry mate |
Mnemosyne Gloob
Acerbus Vindictum Stealth Wear Inc.
129
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Posted - 2013.11.03 03:12:00 -
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Makalu Zarya wrote:the carrier disappeared from 5% armor to dead
Wasn't there a 'fix' lately that had something to do with rats in structure? Maybe this introduced some weird effects to player flown ships, too. |
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra Gallente Federation
199
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Posted - 2013.11.03 10:08:00 -
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Makalu Zarya wrote:... as for petitioning the loss, he was going to die anyway, so i'm not sure what the point of this is, you should petition it as a bug, however the outcome would not be different, that carrier wasn't tanking in armor, there is no reason to think he was gonna tank in structure. Well... he could have been extraordinarily manly... "You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |
Icer Xx
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
8
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Posted - 2013.11.04 07:35:00 -
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So after 4 days of waiting. I get a response saying:
"After having looked at your ticket we have gone over the data we have at our end and we see no irregularities."
Well it seems I should train my dread pilots into an Ishtar then if this is pretty normal thing to happen apparently.
As for the "We" I want to know how many gm's dose it take to look at a log and see something is wrong? |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
471
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Posted - 2013.11.04 09:48:00 -
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Icer Xx wrote:So after 4 days of waiting. I get a response saying:
"After having looked at your ticket we have gone over the data we have at our end and we see no irregularities."
Well it seems I should train my dread pilots into an Ishtar then if this is pretty normal thing to happen apparently.
As for the "We" I want to know how many gm's dose it take to look at a log and see something is wrong?
As always "logs show nothing" on CCP side. Even when opposing parties have the same log produced by the game, log that is strange... Maybe someone from CCP will be willing to express himself why the players logs show something else from CCP logs??? Protect yourself from CONCORD today! Tinfoil hats, quality product. Styled after pirate hats. |
Layla Firoue
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.11.04 12:54:00 -
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Icer Xx wrote:So after 4 days of waiting. I get a response saying:
"After having looked at your ticket we have gone over the data we have at our end and we see no irregularities."
Well it seems I should train my dread pilots into an Ishtar then if this is pretty normal thing to happen apparently.
As for the "We" I want to know how many gm's dose it take to look at a log and see something is wrong?
Escalate the petition to a senior GM. "Logs show nothing" is CCPs generic answer to any petition involving pvp losses you hardly ever get any conclusive answer unless you escalate. |
Alice Saki
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
96845
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Posted - 2013.11.04 13:47:00 -
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Wow... Log Shows Nothing.... Bravo CCP Bravo...
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Mehashi 'Kho
Idiot with a gun
93
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Posted - 2013.11.04 13:57:00 -
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Icer Xx wrote:we see no irregularities. Open your eyes, read a little, watch the video. Not good enough. Even if you aren't going to reimburse the guy, what happened is pretty damned irregular... |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
308
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Posted - 2013.11.04 14:31:00 -
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Buhhdust Princess wrote:btw, Icer's spelling of "Thought" is correct in Irish, it's just the way he says it.
Also, this is pretty ridiculous to be honest! I don't really understand the OP Curator II. Well it would not be the first time the troll brigade trolled itself. |
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