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Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
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Posted - 2013.11.04 21:14:00 -
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Batelle wrote:Jythier Smith wrote: This was a very informative and helpful post. Thank you!
So what you're saying is that I can set up a second character and get access to an additional 6 planets for PI and make massive amounts of money. IE, each planet makes 3.5 million per day, and with 6 that's 20 million, but with a second character that's 40 million, which is enough to dual-train with a PLEX after one month. Although I'll have to train up to Industrial and train the PI skills first.
I'm starting to see where these giant numbers of daily income might be coming from.
regarding PI, any time your profit numbers are based on the p1 or p2 reactors being fed at 100% efficiency from ECUs, i would advise slashing your projected earnings to about 80%.
I'm hi-sec. Extracting would be ridiculously bad for me, so I hear. |
Dudley Schwartz
Magic Hamsters
100
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Posted - 2013.11.04 21:43:00 -
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A very quick/honest answer to this question would be no, i could not play this game without the ability to have alts, its all part of the whole experience, in my opinion. Of course i'm quite capable of playing solo, but i wouldn't the game nowhere near as much.
Imagine eve without alts? The online population would shrink at least 50% overnight.
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Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
359
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Posted - 2013.11.04 21:47:00 -
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Can't see myself ever playing without multiple accounts - some roles just need too timely and hands on interaction with other roles to delegate it to someone else unless they play as often and in a similiar style to yourself. i.e. moving caps around for the most part I'd only ever jump to my own cyno alts*, scout with my own alt, etc.
* Bit different when doing stuff as a corp but in general. |
KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
478
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Posted - 2013.11.04 21:50:00 -
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Of course you can play without alts, OP.
Go to www.minerbumping.com and learn about the Code.
Alts promote bot-aspirancy in New Eden, and you, OP, can help change all of that. |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
268
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Posted - 2013.11.04 21:57:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:Batelle wrote:Jythier Smith wrote: This was a very informative and helpful post. Thank you!
So what you're saying is that I can set up a second character and get access to an additional 6 planets for PI and make massive amounts of money. IE, each planet makes 3.5 million per day, and with 6 that's 20 million, but with a second character that's 40 million, which is enough to dual-train with a PLEX after one month. Although I'll have to train up to Industrial and train the PI skills first.
I'm starting to see where these giant numbers of daily income might be coming from.
regarding PI, any time your profit numbers are based on the p1 or p2 reactors being fed at 100% efficiency from ECUs, i would advise slashing your projected earnings to about 80%. I'm hi-sec. Extracting would be ridiculously bad for me, so I hear.
lol maybe I should check out what factories you're running. I'm using Gevlon's approach to hisec PI of "buy the rare p1, import and build p2 on the planet that makes the cheap p1." |
Impala59
While in Empire Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2013.11.04 22:18:00 -
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Eve without a cyno alt or 3 would be difficult. |
Richard Ramlrez
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.04 23:00:00 -
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Can you play with one account? Yes
Can you have the same level of efficiency towards ISK generation and multiple roleplay with one account compared to multiple accounts if you know what you are doing? No ******* way
Do you care much about efficiency or not while playing EVE? |
Just Lilly
132
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Posted - 2013.11.04 23:29:00 -
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Without alts? Probably
Without multiboxing, yes |
Alice Saki
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
96918
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Posted - 2013.11.04 23:33:00 -
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Well I'm running 6 Accounts atm.
Could I use 1? Sure But I'd be limited... Very Limited... |
Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
18
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Posted - 2013.11.04 23:43:00 -
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The only kind of alts I use are actual "Alternate Characters". As in characters who have nothing to do with eachother and often are on completely different sides of the universe/galaxy (if we're considering wormholes). |
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Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
27
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Posted - 2013.11.05 00:29:00 -
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I have done alright without a alt for the past few years..
I have recently aquired one.. jsut because I want to get into bigger PvP ship more regualr and dont want to rely on blink for my income =D |
Jim Era
7624
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Posted - 2013.11.05 00:33:00 -
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I have no alt. I am Jim Era. |
Mr Pragmatic
698
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Posted - 2013.11.05 01:25:00 -
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Jim Era wrote:I have no alt. I am Jim Era.
Wat |
Taal Khurin
Happy Asteroid Ltd
57
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Posted - 2013.11.05 09:36:00 -
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for 6 years i played without an alt (on another account) so yes.. but not now i have an alt. Hmmm probably but i dont want to! |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
4253
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Posted - 2013.11.05 09:49:00 -
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It is quite possible to play without alts. Just make friends, instead of manufacturing them |
Kenrailae
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
39
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Posted - 2013.11.05 09:53:00 -
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POSSIBLE with 1..... Yes.
POSSIBLE to run your own foot over with your car...... Yes.
I personally don't see the point in having some of the massive numbers of accounts that a few have, but then again, a lot of people don't see the point in having 2 accounts.
Things are alot easier with two accounts though, that can train two entirely different directions, or supporting each other, etc.
Also lets you see alot more of the game sooner than you would otherwise, and allows for alot more... flexibility in game play. |
Skeln Thargensen
Alpha Sperglords
264
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Posted - 2013.11.05 09:55:00 -
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I got a second account recently but i think i'm gonna transfer the character when trained and ditch it because i'm just not using it to its potential. can always resub if i need it again.
other than that, having a hauler alt and a factional warfare alt for arcade pew pew/ISK just seems like a bonus. i'm just not that meta. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
637
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Posted - 2013.11.05 09:59:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:I haven't been playing very long, but the one thing that stands out to me is meeting everyone, and then meeting everybody again.
Is it possible to do anything worthwhile through actual player cooperation instead of multiboxing?
Yes. I played most of my eve career with 1 account.
But here are SOME activities that require alts to be effective. |
Anomaly One
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:12:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote: fly alone and die alone, thats the only spirit
I like that. Is it just me or i'm reading lots of good quotes, perhaps it's the lack of signatures or because i'm listening to this epic pirate music.. |
Anomaly One
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:13:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:It is quite possible to play without alts. Just make friends, instead of manufacturing them
I have sooo many friends in my head |
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voetius
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
105
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:16:00 -
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Na Und wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:You can play without alts, but the longer you play, the more you will want to be able to do. It isn't essential though.
Example: I stopped training one character to train a lab alt for 7 months, so now I have an additional 10 slots for research and manufacturing. I've always meant to ask: so this is my alt . . . I'd love to have her train some research skills to generate some passive income. But don't I still have to grind missions to get standings (access to higher-level research agents)? What's the point of training combat skills on an alt that never leaves station?
I think Tau is referring to researching BPOs rather than accessing R&D agents to farm datacores.
Datacore farming is worth so little now I would seriously advise you not to do it, it's a month or more of skill training that you could use more profitably elsewhere. Look up the skill Research Project Management ingame and look at the time on the prerequisites tab, that is how much time you will need to start training the skill that gives you access to more than one R&D agent.
OTOH if you really really like the idea of R&D agents, faction standing gives you access as well, so IMO you'd be better grinding faction that standing with a single corp (and it's useful in other ways as well, access to all agents of that faction, locators etc). |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
670
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:30:00 -
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I have 8 so far and plan on making a few more. They're all paid for with null exploration, although the first 3 started off as cash, 2 for spying and corp infiltration when I was war deccing.
I plan on multiboxing the whole 8 as a stealth bomber pvp squad. Why? Because I can... If you don't like it you can always try to kill them. |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
772
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Posted - 2013.11.05 10:35:00 -
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I don't know if you can play without a second account as I got my second account just a week or two after the first one, 7+ years ago. |
Athena Maldoran
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2454
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Posted - 2013.11.05 12:36:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:I have 8 so far and plan on making a few more. They're all paid for with null exploration, although the first 3 started off as cash, 2 for spying and corp infiltration when I was war deccing.
I plan on multiboxing the whole 8 as a stealth bomber pvp squad. Why? Because I can... If you don't like it you can always try to kill them.
You just need 1 smarbombing battleship to take out these 8 accounts |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
742
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:29:00 -
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It's perfectly possible to play without alts or a multibox setup. For monetary purposes it's just a matter of making enough extra profit to cover the subscription cost of the alt. For PVP it's kind of subjective. One group will tell you to never let anyone else light your cyno's. The other group will tell you only peasants light their own cynos. One group will praise you for bringing a logi alt. The other group scolds you for dividing your attention to 2 seperate clients. So it really is a matter of perspective whether or not an alt is usefull, but it's definately not needed to enjoy the game. |
Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
21
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:41:00 -
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Jennifer Maxwell wrote:The only kind of alts I use are actual "Alternate Characters". As in characters who have nothing to do with eachother and often are on completely different sides of the universe/galaxy (if we're considering wormholes).
If I end up with alternate characters, that will be what I do. Oh, I want to lo-sec roam today, I'll use my lo-sec roamer guy. Oh, I don't want to be killed 50 times. I'll use my hi-sec guy today. :P |
Zilero
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
116
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:48:00 -
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I would say you can do anything except move a capital ship by yourself and scout yourself.
Being able to do those two things by yourself is a great timesaver and are besides the obvious uses for multiple accounts (double amount of ships on the field in your favorite PVE/PVP scenario) the main reason people have alts. |
Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:51:00 -
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I didn't start playing EVE to sit play internet spaceships by myself. I'd much rather have someone scout for me and risk them betraying me than suffer the shame of having to play every role myself. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2785
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:21:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:It is quite possible to play without alts. Just make friends, instead of manufacturing them Greed is the counterweight. You can absolutely do worthwhile stuff in EvE without an alt. I had a blast without an alt for my first two years or so. You just need to find a good corp. Hell, you don't even need to do that. you can do exploration or piracy without an alt. You can do a lot of things. Once you make enough ISK to PLEX though the question is why not start another account? Gate camping is all well and good, until you kill a hauler packed with nice stuff and your cargo hold is insufficient. Why not have a guy in a hauler cloaked in a safe spot? Sure makes life easier. Why not have a guy in a sacrificial BS that just follows you around and boost/reps you? If you can split the loot one less way... well then who needs friends?
You might find, though, that EvE isn't just about ISK. A single-account player has a lot of options in EvE. |
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
35
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:35:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:It is quite possible to play without alts. Just make friends, instead of manufacturing them
Make friends without [making] them :D |
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