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Mythrandier
Spacelane Salvage
189
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:16:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: And that's the point. It shows how backwards infinity Ziona's thinking is. He would constantly harp about how it was somehow wrong for people to be carebearing in deep "safe" null sec (which is only "safe" because of human effort) while not complaining one slight bit about the people doing PVE in the place where most PVE is done AND while under the wholly automated protection of CONCORD.
Jenn aSide wrote: And that's the point. It shows how backwards infinity Ziona's thinking is.
Jenn aSide wrote:Ziona's thinking
Think I found your problem there bro... "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." --á D. Adams. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3313
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:22:00 -
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Mythrandier wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: And that's the point. It shows how backwards infinity Ziona's thinking is. He would constantly harp about how it was somehow wrong for people to be carebearing in deep "safe" null sec (which is only "safe" because of human effort) while not complaining one slight bit about the people doing PVE in the place where most PVE is done AND while under the wholly automated protection of CONCORD.
Jenn aSide wrote: And that's the point. It shows how backwards infinity Ziona's thinking is.
Jenn aSide wrote:Ziona's thinking
Think I found your problem there bro...
I have failed.
*Takes out wakizashi and commits Seppuku, but thanks to this being EVE, wakes up in station* |
Tilly Delnero
Licorne Ventures Ltd.
105
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:22:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:It goes to the heart of the thread. If its okay to be blapping away at someone in high because they're AFK why is not okay in null? No timers is already doable, recruit globally, its a global game. At low pop hours theres low pop so even if you have 30% non peak players they can defend against attacks against the other 30% attacking. Its not like you will have the full force off Goons attacking you in the off hours. This genuinely made me spit my tea all over the keyboard, thanks for the laugh! |
Casanunda
Church Of The Eternal Cosmic Confidence Trick
91
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:34:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Can we do something about the idiots in highsec already CCP? They've already done something about idiots in highsec, they've made it possible for other players to gank them... The fact that I am not a millionaire aristocrat with the sexual capacity of a rutting rhino is a constant niggle. - Edmund Blackadder-á |
Captain' Kirk
Orion Trade Syndicate KRYSIS.
1
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:39:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.
You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.
No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.
Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.
At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.
This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.
Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken. CAN WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE IDIOTS WHO AFK CAMP ALREADY CCP? |
Kyle Yanowski
Aideron Robotics
137
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:45:00 -
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I don't have any respect for HISEC gankers... as PVPers. That being said, I absolutely value their contribution to the game. No where should be "safe" in EVE Online.
Make the exodus to LOWSEC or NULLSEC and you will encounter a whole new, New Eden. Host of the High Drag Eve Online Podcast ( http://highdrag.wordpress.com). Director of Aideron Robotics.
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Zheng'Yi Sao
DIRTY MONEY INC. The Mountain Empire
29
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:13:00 -
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Where is the thread hammer?
This thread needs to die, horribly.
Time to gank the subject matter:
I like beer? Who likes beer? One of my favorite pastimes is to whiz through the galaxy in my pod, drinkng lots of beer...
Lets start a corporation of pod heads. Our featured event could be drunkenly flooding Jita with a thousand pods and zooming around until someone is forced to wardec us. This we could ensure by bumping frieghters away from station with our pods or something equally foolish. Or we could just drunkenly crash into everyone and everything so that we can't be accused of playing favorites. We could give "podding" a whole new definition. We could even make it fluffy by claiming that we are protesting a shortage of Long Limb Eggs (article here: http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/the-hanging-long-limb/). Then Goonswarm can come in and burn Jita, claiming they are protesting the mistreatment of peaceful pod head protestors, and a general lack of Long Limb Egg Sandwiches (with bacon)...
Who is with me?
Or, we can continue whining about, well, all kinds of stuff... "It's funny the things you people think are mandatory for us, as if we don't do what we do because it's a hilarious good time in a space video game." - Johnny Marzetti
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2013.11.14 10:09:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote:Binchiette Ambrye wrote:... Good job on totally not understanding the point i was making and turning it into something completly different..... That's all you're gonna get. Also the claim that IZ was allowed docking rights by Tribe is a lie. Unless it was another null alliance you 'solo warred', if that's what lurking afk cloaked in a lolfit t3 with a falcon alt is called. Most guys do that with a bomber or recon, get kills and dock down the road at an npc station. Can't remember the one 5 jumps from PB but i still have stuff there from my own time sneaking around there. At that time everyone in EvE was cruising over to PB to punch out Tribal Bads, IZ was probably the last person to make it there. Would really love to hear about how docking rights were forcefully obtained based on a few hauler and ratter kills, but probably just get twisted into some fitting argument or definition of efficiency or some other slimy obfuscation. TL:DR; OP is a joke and a liar. Not a troll Simple check of my contracts will clearly show I was granted docking rights. OK. Your last two contracts were in 2013, both in Jita. One for a Rattlesnake BPC and one for a Dread Guristas Tower BPC. Before that we have a contract in 2010 November 26, also in Jita, from there contracts go back to 2008, mostly in Jita or Rens, no mention of any null systems. Did you think i wouldn't check or is there some filter i didn't apply?Would really love to hear about how docking rights were forcefully obtained based on a few hauler and ratter kills...and i mean chat logs or mails or even a name of someone i can ask about this. For the life of me, i can't figure out why anyone would allow a neut to dock in their space when it's about 8 jumps to H-8 npc station. That's if you're referring to docking rights in PB. So yeah, gonna need some details here.
Bumping from a sincere desire for information.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
793
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Posted - 2013.11.14 11:13:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote:Binchiette Ambrye wrote:... Good job on totally not understanding the point i was making and turning it into something completly different..... That's all you're gonna get. Also the claim that IZ was allowed docking rights by Tribe is a lie. Unless it was another null alliance you 'solo warred', if that's what lurking afk cloaked in a lolfit t3 with a falcon alt is called. Most guys do that with a bomber or recon, get kills and dock down the road at an npc station. Can't remember the one 5 jumps from PB but i still have stuff there from my own time sneaking around there. At that time everyone in EvE was cruising over to PB to punch out Tribal Bads, IZ was probably the last person to make it there. Would really love to hear about how docking rights were forcefully obtained based on a few hauler and ratter kills, but probably just get twisted into some fitting argument or definition of efficiency or some other slimy obfuscation. TL:DR; OP is a joke and a liar. Not a troll Simple check of my contracts will clearly show I was granted docking rights. OK. Your last two contracts were in 2013, both in Jita. One for a Rattlesnake BPC and one for a Dread Guristas Tower BPC. Before that we have a contract in 2010 November 26, also in Jita, from there contracts go back to 2008, mostly in Jita or Rens, no mention of any null systems. Did you think i wouldn't check or is there some filter i didn't apply?Would really love to hear about how docking rights were forcefully obtained based on a few hauler and ratter kills...and i mean chat logs or mails or even a name of someone i can ask about this. For the life of me, i can't figure out why anyone would allow a neut to dock in their space when it's about 8 jumps to H-8 npc station. That's if you're referring to docking rights in PB. So yeah, gonna need some details here. Bumping from a sincere desire for information. Ill post a screenshot of my newbie ship in ZMA in the morning. Do believe I still have my Proteus and subs up for sale there still.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2013.11.14 13:22:00 -
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What happened to simple check of contracts clearly showing docking rights? No, really, what happened with that? Don't bother with screenshots of anything, proof isn't hard to provide, there has to have been chat logs or an evemail from somebody to you about this. I'm straight-up calling you a liar, come back with something more concrete, and fast.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
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Casanunda
Church Of The Eternal Cosmic Confidence Trick
93
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Posted - 2013.11.14 13:58:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:What happened to simple check of contracts clearly showing docking rights? No, really, what happened with that? Don't bother with screenshots of anything, proof isn't hard to provide, there has to have been chat logs or an evemail from somebody to you about this. I'm straight-up calling you a liar, come back with something more concrete, and fast.
Expect more procrastination, wild claims and possible random sperg about nullsec zealots/20 minute time periods/stuff. Infinity seems to live in an alternate reality, along with Alice, the Mad Hatter and the Queen of Hearts, sometimes Dorothy and Toto visit. The fact that I am not a millionaire Gallente aristocrat with the sexual capacity of a rutting rhino is a constant niggle. |
Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
109
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Posted - 2013.11.14 14:10:00 -
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Casanunda wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote:What happened to simple check of contracts clearly showing docking rights? No, really, what happened with that? Don't bother with screenshots of anything, proof isn't hard to provide, there has to have been chat logs or an evemail from somebody to you about this. I'm straight-up calling you a liar, come back with something more concrete, and fast.
Expect more procrastination, wild claims and possible random sperg about nullsec zealots/20 minute time periods/stuff. Infinity seems to live in an alternate reality, along with Alice, the Mad Hatter and the Queen of Hearts, sometimes Dorothy and Toto visit.
Dorothy needed exercise, she was always getting winded. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
14569
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Posted - 2013.11.14 14:18:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote: Dorothy needed exercise, she was always getting winded.
Dorothy also needed a map, with only one road to travel she still had to ask a mindless scarecrow for directions when she got lost.
This thread is now all about the wonderful Wizard of Oz, nice shoes and dropping houses on witches. I am furnishing this post "as is" I do not provide any warranty whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any relevance or fitness for purpose or any warranty that the contents herein are error-free.
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Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
110
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Posted - 2013.11.14 14:37:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Jythier Smith wrote: Dorothy needed exercise, she was always getting winded.
Dorothy also needed a map, with only one road to travel she still had to ask a mindless scarecrow for directions when she got lost. This thread is now all about the wonderful Wizard of Oz, nice shoes and dropping houses on witches.
So THAT'S what happened to Erotica 1.
Either that or he owned a mayonnaise factory and got nailed for *redacted*. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
798
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:20:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:What happened to simple check of contracts clearly showing docking rights? No, really, what happened with that? Don't bother with screenshots of anything, proof isn't hard to provide, there has to have been chat logs or an evemail from somebody to you about this. I'm straight-up calling you a liar, come back with something more concrete, and fast.
They were private contracts. Besides you'd simply say I remote bought and contracted. I think my screenie of newb ship is better since its highly unlikely I remote bought one. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1510
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:29:00 -
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Infinity Ziona returns to the thread, after having taken aproximately 18 hours to go fabricate some more evidence for us.
"A simple check of my contracts proves that I forced them to give me docking rights"
"they were private contracts"
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Chi Garu
Dos Dedos Inc
0
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:28:00 -
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Strange thread, gave up reading after a dozen pages. Anyway, I saw alot of misinformation regarding the difficulty in setting up and maintaining a ganker.
http://belligerentundesirables.com/2013/11/09/presenting-a-new-project-bu-ganking/
Bottom line is 30 days training on a trial account and 18m per gank to negate sec status loss. Enjoy. |
CETA Elitist
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:46:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Mythrandier wrote:There is only one thing better than butthurt on EvE-O and that is Infinity Ziona butthurt.
In that respect this thread delivers in vast, vast quantities. I'm not butthurt. I'm annoyed that my favorite game's gameplay is turning into rubbish. Your opinion reeks of butthurt. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
798
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Posted - 2013.11.15 07:19:00 -
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CETA Elitist wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Mythrandier wrote:There is only one thing better than butthurt on EvE-O and that is Infinity Ziona butthurt.
In that respect this thread delivers in vast, vast quantities. I'm not butthurt. I'm annoyed that my favorite game's gameplay is turning into rubbish. Your opinion reeks of butthurt. Expert on butthurt? |
Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
389
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Posted - 2013.11.15 11:30:00 -
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Zheng'Yi Sao wrote:I like beer? Who likes beer? One of my favorite pastimes is to whiz through the galaxy in my pod, drinking lots of beer... Too much beer and you'll definitely be "whizzing" through the galaxy...
Off-topic, I've been slowly enjoying Gumballhead and Zombie Dust beers out of Three Floyds in Munster, Indiana. |
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CETA Elitist
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:36:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:CETA Elitist wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Mythrandier wrote:There is only one thing better than butthurt on EvE-O and that is Infinity Ziona butthurt.
In that respect this thread delivers in vast, vast quantities. I'm not butthurt. I'm annoyed that my favorite game's gameplay is turning into rubbish. Your opinion reeks of butthurt. Expert on butthurt? Is that a prerequisite to disagreeing with you?
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Anarkia Evangel
Glass Archor
1
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Posted - 2013.11.15 15:03:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Anyone who wants to travel in safety. Also, since you noticed it being locked a lot while travelling, you're obviously sitting in front of the computer already, so cloaking to avoid those locks isn't asking much. [-quote] Yes. Chances are that they aren't all that many to begin with. Any station you visit with any regularity is worth the (minute) effort it takes to set up an insta GÇö doubly so if it's in a recently well-populated system. Sure, if it's a particularly empty system, you probably won't since no-one is around to go after you, but even then, if you come there often enoughGǪ [-quote] He's being solution-oriented and pragmatic. None of what he said is particularly unrealistic GÇö it just require the tiniest amount of planning and effort. So maybe that's your complaint? He's not actually lazy? Okay the original point I was making was industrial ships are broke. Flying T1 in empire is a death trap, considering the lengths you have to go to to avoid trouble with a T2 industry makes my point well. And you are correct I donGÇÖt afk travel with my T2, or any industrial ship, that would be silly. And my complaint was he missed the point of my post.
Johnny Marzetti wrote:[-quote] This is why you all need to be exploded. This right here. Anyone who flies a blockade runner in null has literally hundreds of bookmarks, or will after a few losses. You are soft and squishy, you are fat on CONCORD's protection.
But thatGÇÖs the thing, Null does not equal High sec. The rules and game mechanicals are different and need to be balanced with that in mind. So IGÇÖm guessing you are suggesting I need 100s of bookmarks to GÇÿsafelyGÇÖ fly around empire in a blockade runner, how many do I need to fly GÇÿsafelyGÇÖ travel around in a T1 industrial?
If I could I would use a JF or a carrier all the time, maybe a jump bridge? but you canGÇÖt in empire, you have to live by its rules, you have to use the trade routes, you canGÇÖt scan gates as you move or use a scout as there are 10s of people at gates, who friendly and whoGÇÖs hostile there is no way of really knowing. ItGÇÖs pretty easy to know in Null. |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
307
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Posted - 2013.11.15 23:20:00 -
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Anarkia Evangel wrote:... So IGÇÖm guessing you are suggesting I need 100s of bookmarks to GÇÿsafelyGÇÖ fly around empire in a blockade runner, how many do I need to fly GÇÿsafelyGÇÖ travel around in a T1 industrial?
... who friendly and whoGÇÖs hostile there is no way of really knowing. ItGÇÖs pretty easy to know in Null.
Nobody can fly safely anywhere...that mechanic is universal. The second bit is kind of a null joke, when you go to empire space for some reason; "Aw hell empire gives me the fidgets, it's full of neuts, man."
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Subject 4927
Border Kingdom
3
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Posted - 2013.11.16 02:45:00 -
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No place is safe, that's the way it should be. Being AFK and expecting to not get your stuff blown up (when un docked) is ludacris.
Going AFK? Dock.
Problem. Solved.
Or or or, tank your ****. |
Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
698
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Posted - 2013.11.16 02:49:00 -
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Subject 4927 wrote:No place is safe, that's the way it should be. Being AFK and expecting to not get your stuff blown up (when un docked) is ludacris.
Going AFK? Dock.
Problem. Solved.
Or or or, tank your ****.
People make billions without ever leaving stations. I'm suprise there isn't rage at market traders with people demanding they can force undock them from Jita 4-4. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. Captain Tardbar: The official grumpy cat of General Discussion. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3378
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Posted - 2013.11.16 03:34:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:Subject 4927 wrote:No place is safe, that's the way it should be. Being AFK and expecting to not get your stuff blown up (when un docked) is ludacris.
Going AFK? Dock.
Problem. Solved.
Or or or, tank your ****. People make billions without ever leaving stations. I'm suprise there isn't rage at market traders with people demanding they can force undock them from Jita 4-4.
Those market traders are flying space ships and expecting to be safe. Those market traders are risking loss. Those market traders don't come to the forums and beg CCP for more "market EHP" because someone beat them. In other words, they are bing adults about it, so there is no reason to demand they do anything. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1521
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Posted - 2013.11.16 03:42:00 -
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Quote:Those market traders don't come to the forums and beg CCP for more "market EHP" because someone beat them.
Not entirely true there Jenn. I happen to recall at least 3 threadnaughts in a row earlier in the year, begging for Margin Trading to be removed from the game.
Your point still stands if you ask me, however. Mostly because any whining on the part of the "traders" playstyle can be chalked up to the kind of stupid people that are present in every playstyle, game, and group of players. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
799
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Posted - 2013.11.16 04:21:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Anarkia Evangel wrote:... So IGÇÖm guessing you are suggesting I need 100s of bookmarks to GÇÿsafelyGÇÖ fly around empire in a blockade runner, how many do I need to fly GÇÿsafelyGÇÖ travel around in a T1 industrial?
... who friendly and whoGÇÖs hostile there is no way of really knowing. ItGÇÖs pretty easy to know in Null. Nobody can fly safely anywhere...that mechanic is universal. The second bit is kind of a null joke, when you go to empire space for some reason; "Aw hell empire gives me the fidgets, it's full of neuts, man." Wrong (again). Press F10, select cynosaural fields, first put on sunglasses. Don't even need to travel in null, POS to POS safety. |
Subject 4927
Border Kingdom
3
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Posted - 2013.11.16 04:42:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:Subject 4927 wrote:No place is safe, that's the way it should be. Being AFK and expecting to not get your stuff blown up (when un docked) is ludacris.
Going AFK? Dock.
Problem. Solved.
Or or or, tank your ****. People make billions without ever leaving stations. I'm suprise there isn't rage at market traders with people demanding they can force undock them from Jita 4-4.
Nobody cares about you market people.
It's the Miners and the other Bears who fly with no sense of danger on the otherside of the gate. This needs to be changed. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1818
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Posted - 2013.11.16 05:05:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote: Wrong (again). Press F10, select cynosaural fields, first put on sunglasses. Don't even need to travel in null, POS to POS safety.
confirming safe. do not scout. |
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