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Vihura
Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:22:00 -
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I thought I thought Time Dilation is emergency measure, not feature, I recently have been in few fights and tidi was present all the time at 10% it's boring as hell.... |
oOReikaOo Michiko
The Scope Gallente Federation
257
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:26:00 -
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Vihura wrote:I thought Time Dilation is emergency measure, not feature, I recently have been in few fights and tidi was present all the time at 10% it's boring as hell....
Please feel free to donate better Servers to CCP |
KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
497
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:28:00 -
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Vihura wrote:I thought Time Dilation is emergency measure, not feature, I recently have been in few fights and tidi was present all the time at 10% it's boring as hell....
Well, when players push the boundaries of the sandbox and gaming in general multiple time's a year...TiDi is a necessity....so as such, a feature. |
baltec1
Bat Country
8423
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:29:00 -
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Beats what we had before hands down. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2562
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:29:00 -
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As someone old enough to remember trying to cram 1500 people into a system a few times in the days before TiDi, this is a godsend. |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate WHY so Seri0Us
2373
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:58:00 -
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Pre-TiDi was pretty much unplayable. All hail TiDi. |
Taal Khurin
Happy Asteroid Ltd
60
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:00:00 -
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Imagine a large mining op with 10% TiDi.....
Actually better not. |
March rabbit
True Horde
857
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:45:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote: As someone old enough to remember trying to cram 1500 people into a system a few times in the days before TiDi, this is a godsend. is this the reason we should see TiDi in systems with 200-300 people? |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
595
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:00:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote: As someone old enough to remember trying to cram 1500 people into a system a few times in the days before TiDi, this is a godsend.
I was in an outpost bash where we took sov from Red Alliance (the Russian one, not the RvB dudes).... IIRC, there were more than 900 people involved. I know for cold hard fact I opened fire on at least 250 hostiles, none of which survived the fight. The pre-TiDi environment was so borked that I registered 0 kills that day, and when the lagging finally stopped, I was in a station, staring at my egg. It is entirely likely that I lagged out and got instapopped at the beginning of the fight, and it just took my client that long to finally work out that I was already dead. |
Vihura
Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN
48
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:09:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote: As someone old enough to remember trying to cram 1500 people into a system a few times in the days before TiDi, this is a godsend. is this the reason we should see TiDi in systems with 200-300 people? This... |
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IDGAD
Get in the van I have candy.
43
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:27:00 -
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Pretty much. I've seen TiDi with a system of 70 before, and the systems around it were not heavily populated either. I think CCP is just spreading the system nodes a little too thin. They probably sold off half their ancient server infrastructure because they are going broke due to... well... you know, investing in WoT (World of Twilight). |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5087
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:32:00 -
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Vihura wrote:March rabbit wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote: As someone old enough to remember trying to cram 1500 people into a system a few times in the days before TiDi, this is a godsend. is this the reason we should see TiDi in systems with 200-300 people? This...
IDGAD wrote:Pretty much. I've seen TiDi with a system of 70 before, and the systems around it were not heavily populated either.
The node had a system on it with a fight going on. If you're referring to highsec.
Pre-tidi you could all have crashed or encountered other symptoms of lag (modules not cycling, etc)
Systems are assigned to nodes randomly, IIRC. In fact, to balance the load it is better to have nearby systems all on different nodes, rather than the same one. People in a random system in highsec might luck out and get a node with asakai or q9pp and suddenly hit 10% tidi for a few hours |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
246
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:03:00 -
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Vihura wrote:I thought Time Dilation is emergency measure, not feature, I recently have been in few fights and tidi was present all the time at 10% it's boring as hell.... You wont get any sympathy on the EvE forums where TiDi is worshiped as the second coming of christ. Like Stokholm Syndrome sufferers most vets are so glad they aren't in disconnect hell anymore, that TiDi purgatory is acceptable to them as the new norm.
You will need to seek an offline support group for your TiDi angst that many of us feel is an affliction not a boon, but take heart -- you aren't suffering alone... |
Orakkus
Wraithguard. Dirt Nap Squad.
236
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:16:00 -
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Vihura wrote:I thought Time Dilation is emergency measure, not feature, I recently have been in few fights and tidi was present all the time at 10% it's boring as hell....
Buddy, boring but accurate is a helluva lot better than "frozen, black screen, pod" of the time prior to TiDi. Appreciate it. Thank CCP for it. Give them kudos for it. Realize that it will be with the game until forever because it is such a brilliant mechanic and it makes the game playable.. even in extreme conditions like that. |
Nuela
Beacon Light Corporation Beacon Light Alliance
182
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:27:00 -
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Yea, I vastly prefer the jump in...black screen for a long time then wake up in a station in a pod.
Ahhhhh memories.... |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
778
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:52:00 -
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People are such suckers.....
CCP introduced tidi as a "feature" and it will never go away. CCP is not capable of making the game playable for big fleets, so now even little fleets get to waste some additional time, whether they like it or not.. I've seen tidi in 200 man fights, that used to run just fine without help.....
And if you honestly think that everyone is getting the same amount of tidi, well i'd like to sell you a bridge. Tidi may allow everyone to get on field, but it does not allow everyone the ability to fight. Modules still get stuck, weapons don't respond, ships don't respond.
Yes, Tidi is better than the black screen of death, but it's not an answer, it's a cheap fix by lazy programmers.
Much like the Forums, which continue to lose posts, and error out after years of work....
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Eli Green
The Arrow Project
754
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Posted - 2013.11.05 18:00:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:People are such suckers..... CCP introduced tidi as a "feature" and it will never go away. CCP is not capable of making the game playable for big fleets, so now even little fleets get to waste some additional time, whether they like it or not.. I've seen tidi in 200 man fights, that used to run just fine without help..... And if you honestly think that everyone is getting the same amount of tidi, well i'd like to sell you a bridge. Tidi may allow everyone to get on field, but it does not allow everyone the ability to fight. Modules still get stuck, weapons don't respond, ships don't respond. Yes, Tidi is better than the black screen of death, but it's not an answer, it's a cheap fix by lazy programmers. Much like the Forums, which continue to lose posts, and error out after years of work....
Go and fix then! |
Orakkus
Wraithguard. Dirt Nap Squad.
236
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Posted - 2013.11.05 18:59:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:People are such suckers..... CCP introduced tidi as a "feature" and it will never go away. CCP is not capable of making the game playable for big fleets, so now even little fleets get to waste some additional time, whether they like it or not.. I've seen tidi in 200 man fights, that used to run just fine without help..... And if you honestly think that everyone is getting the same amount of tidi, well i'd like to sell you a bridge. Tidi may allow everyone to get on field, but it does not allow everyone the ability to fight. Modules still get stuck, weapons don't respond, ships don't respond. Yes, Tidi is better than the black screen of death, but it's not an answer, it's a cheap fix by lazy programmers. Much like the Forums, which continue to lose posts, and error out after years of work....
Pretty sure CCP games will give you a lot of money if you can use your magic wand and fix it. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
6958
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Posted - 2013.11.05 19:15:00 -
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No op, LAG was a feature, TiDi is the angelic choir from above sent to aid us from the blackscreen monster.
Now, when some asshat FC calls for the fleet to "drop drones', the entire cluster doesn't lag out/blackscreen/find themselves in station leveled up into a new alpha clone, it just moves a little slower. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
522
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Posted - 2013.11.05 21:26:00 -
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Compared to the **** that happened before tidi, yes its a goddam feature.
You're gonna move like a slug and you're gonna like it, because it beats the ****** blackscreenghostshipexplodingohgawwwdsomeonepleasekillmepleasepodmecantlogbackin we had before tidi for hours on end. |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4812
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Posted - 2013.11.05 22:01:00 -
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As soon as someone tells us all how to fix lag completely I'll be happy to join the crusade to get rid of TiDi.
I'll even point a finger at it and laugh at how we thought it was a reasonable alternative to black screening.
..... still waiting..... |
Zimmy Zeta
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
35534
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Posted - 2013.11.05 22:06:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:As soon as someone tells us all how to fix lag completely I'll be happy to join the crusade to get rid of TiDi.
I'll even point a finger at it and laugh at how we thought it was a reasonable alternative to black screening.
..... still waiting.....
Players.
The players are the problem. Get rid of the players.
You are welcome.
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
603
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Posted - 2013.11.05 22:06:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:As soon as someone tells us all how to fix lag completely I'll be happy to join the crusade to get rid of TiDi.
I'll even point a finger at it and laugh at how we thought it was a reasonable alternative to black screening.
..... still waiting.....
"How do you fix lag, completely?"
Avoid player sov systems. Small gang PvP, FTW.... |
Vindica The Trader
Illicit Technologies
0
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Posted - 2013.11.05 22:15:00 -
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God damnit CCP tidi is such a dumb ******* feature. I would rather crash to black screen. Took me over 7 minutes to jump through a gate. It is game breaking and beyond annoying and makes me want to quit every time I have to deal with it. |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
603
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Posted - 2013.11.05 22:16:00 -
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Wait..... seriously:
When more than 200 people are activating hostile modules on the same grid, scale the visuals back to just a black screen with brackets flying around. Play EVE as normal.
When more than 1000 people are activating hostile modules on the same grid, you are reduced to nothing but your overview and your module buttons. That's all you need to fight effectively anyway.
Q: "But, Ser Garamonde... surely you jape! EVE will be reduced to naught but a step above Zork!, at that point!" A: Still more fun than a frozen client, a melting graphics card, and a $17,000 blob of pixels blinked into space dust, without you even knowing you're dead until enough pods die to allow your computer catch up with what happened to you. Also, a black screen with your overview and a few buttons is pretty much the same thing as a frozen still-frame of what was happening 2 hours ago... only with my idea, you are actually aware of time passing, and can see ships vanish off your overview, and your supercap's HP falling. So, my idea is, in fact, superior.
You're welcome, EVE.
**mic drop** |
Frying Doom
3239
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Posted - 2013.11.05 22:22:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:As soon as someone tells us all how to fix lag completely I'll be happy to join the crusade to get rid of TiDi.
I'll even point a finger at it and laugh at how we thought it was a reasonable alternative to black screening.
..... still waiting..... Set each system to a 300 cap.
Problem solved. The Null sec guys may hate it but it does solve the problem and their complaining about TiDi.
Oh wait then they will just complain about the cap. Oh well. Either way they are just going to whine, might as well leave the TiDi |
Baaldor
In Igne Morim Easily Excited
168
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Posted - 2013.11.05 22:25:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:As soon as someone tells us all how to fix lag completely I'll be happy to join the crusade to get rid of TiDi.
I'll even point a finger at it and laugh at how we thought it was a reasonable alternative to black screening.
..... still waiting..... Set each system to a 300 cap. Problem solved. The Null sec guys may hate it but it does solve the problem and their complaining about TiDi. Oh wait then they will just complain about the cap. Oh well. Either way they are just going to whine, might as well leave the TiDi
Right and every high sec drone will friggin melt down and throw their toys out of their prams.
Cause and effect, learn it. |
Frying Doom
3239
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Posted - 2013.11.05 22:27:00 -
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Baaldor wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:As soon as someone tells us all how to fix lag completely I'll be happy to join the crusade to get rid of TiDi.
I'll even point a finger at it and laugh at how we thought it was a reasonable alternative to black screening.
..... still waiting..... Set each system to a 300 cap. Problem solved. The Null sec guys may hate it but it does solve the problem and their complaining about TiDi. Oh wait then they will just complain about the cap. Oh well. Either way they are just going to whine, might as well leave the TiDi Right and every high sec drone will friggin melt down and throw their toys out of their prams. Cause and effect, learn it. Besides Jita, Dodixie and Amarr, why would anyone in hi-sec care?
And with a 300 cap Jita would end up as just the scammers trying to scam each other. |
Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4335
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Posted - 2013.11.05 22:28:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:As soon as someone tells us all how to fix lag completely I'll be happy to join the crusade to get rid of TiDi.
I'll even point a finger at it and laugh at how we thought it was a reasonable alternative to black screening.
..... still waiting..... Set each system to a 300 cap. Problem solved. The Null sec guys may hate it but it does solve the problem and their complaining about TiDi. Oh wait then they will just complain about the cap. Oh well. Either way they are just going to whine, might as well leave the TiDi "The Null sec guys". Most "Null sec guys" are happy about TiDi.
I bet in your mind "all black people" are drug dealers, hu ? All "blonde women" are stupid ?
These kinds of generalizations have led to war, because dumb people believe everything and can't understand that people of certain groups don't actually are all the same.
Seriously, educate yourself.
Edit: russians are evil communists. muslims are terrorists. conspiracy theorists are terrorists. blonde are stupid blacks are drug dealers mexicans steal jobs jews are rich germans are ***** americans are stupid.
the list goes on and on. |
Frying Doom
3239
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Posted - 2013.11.05 22:33:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:As soon as someone tells us all how to fix lag completely I'll be happy to join the crusade to get rid of TiDi.
I'll even point a finger at it and laugh at how we thought it was a reasonable alternative to black screening.
..... still waiting..... Set each system to a 300 cap. Problem solved. The Null sec guys may hate it but it does solve the problem and their complaining about TiDi. Oh wait then they will just complain about the cap. Oh well. Either way they are just going to whine, might as well leave the TiDi "The Null sec guys". Most "Null sec guys" are happy about TiDi. I bet in your mind "all black people" are drug dealers, hu ? All "blonde women" are stupid ? These kinds of generalizations have led to war, because dumb people believe everything. Seriously, educate yourself. WW2 had nothing to do with the Jewish people. That was the reasoning behind his rise to power. He found a generally more prosperous people within Germany's population, to blame all the ill of society on and gain the support of the common people.
The war had something to do I believe with 'living space'.
Try reading more than just the forums |
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