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Dasola
Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.21 09:46:00 -
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I live in nullsec and personally i welcome smaller scale activities. So there's something else to do then massive blobs trying to outsmart each others. Siphon unit is nice idea and might force these large power blocks actually defend their space instead of grabbing anything and everything they get their hands on. If they don't, well someone will take advantage of their moon mining operations.
I do hope CCP continues in this path and in future expansions we get much more of these personal employable structures. Maigh give us small fellows better fighting chance. We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do... |
Prince Kobol
1173
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Posted - 2013.11.21 10:09:00 -
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I have said it before I will say it again, the only effect that pos's siphons will have is that the smaller corps / alliances in low sec will be hit hardest and those alliances in null will either not be effected or will just make more isk.
Sure you will find people blowing a silly about of isk buying them, flying out to null and randomly placing them on pos's to start with, but once they realise that they are just wasting isk they will stop.
I fully expect in the next few weeks, possibly a month when the excitement is over that the pos siphon unit will barely be used except by a few people and it will be mainly be used to grief with.
There will be no tears, no drama, it will simply stop being relevant. |
Inquisitor Ageri
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
57
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Posted - 2013.11.21 10:17:00 -
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Make them work on POCO's too. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5206
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Posted - 2013.11.21 10:35:00 -
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Andski wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Also the release of an enemies moon details is awesome and expected. of course, it's not like your alliance has a working recon apparatus that would have that information or a working anything Should we release ncdot's moon data or not
soon someone who isn't hostile to us might own it so :ohdear: There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Toshiro Ozuwara
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
293
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Posted - 2013.11.21 10:37:00 -
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The siphons will have a big effect on groups like the CFC, which won't have updated API info, and will need to login their POS sitter toons (that light cynos for the JFs to come in and drop fuel and pick up goo) daily.
Also, if I had to guess, most POS sitters wont have POS gun skills so they won't be able to remove the siphon themselves.
And even better, if you watchlist the sitter toons, you can get an idea of their schedule, and then you can also anchor a mobile cyno jammer to prevent the JF from being able to come in and refuel.
If someone has the ISK to get the mobile deployables organized, they could grief the crap out of the CFC logistics dept. We teach ruthlessness and hazing. No blues. Kill everything.
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
807
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Posted - 2013.11.21 10:42:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:I have said it before I will say it again, the only effect that pos's siphons will have is that the smaller corps / alliances in low sec will be hit hardest and those alliances in null will either not be effected or will just make more isk.
Sure you will find people blowing a silly about of isk buying them, flying out to null and randomly placing them on pos's to start with, but once they realise that they are just wasting isk they will stop.
I fully expect in the next few weeks, possibly a month when the excitement is over that the pos siphon unit will barely be used except by a few people and it will be mainly be used to grief with.
There will be no tears, no drama, it will simply stop being relevant.
Hopefully CCP will adjust their price. The high price of the unit is irrelevant for already stablished grousp trying to expand more, but its a bit expensive for people starting.
Therefore the price goes agaisnt the unit purpose. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Prince Kobol
1173
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Posted - 2013.11.21 10:55:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:The siphons will have a big effect on groups like the CFC, which won't have updated API info, and will need to login their POS sitter toons (that light cynos for the JFs to come in and drop fuel and pick up goo) daily.
Also, if I had to guess, most POS sitters wont have POS gun skills so they won't be able to remove the siphon themselves.
And even better, if you watchlist the sitter toons, you can get an idea of their schedule, and then you can also anchor a mobile cyno jammer to prevent the JF from being able to come in and refuel.
If someone has the ISK to get the mobile deployables organized, they could grief the crap out of the CFC logistics dept.
Well that is nice but totally wrong.
Its wrong because simply there is nobody who would be willing to invest that much isk and manpower over a long enough time period to have an effect.
Also the end result would be higher moon goo prices due to a drop in supply, which would mean the alliance your targeting would still make the same amount of isk or more.
The only thing you have accomplished is raising prices for any item needing those materials due to a drop in suppply and wasting a massive amount of your own isk and man hours for nothing. |
OldWolf69
IR0N. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
90
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Posted - 2013.11.21 11:04:00 -
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I just can't wait to see the syphons on ppl's pos's. Will have a really nice time grabbing the goo outta them. Ofc, will shed some tears for the OP's happyness. For the fat null bears too. Also for the idiots putting them up for me to collect. I really love it when CCP trolls people. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9509
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Posted - 2013.11.21 15:42:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:that light cynos for the JFs to come in and drop fuel and pick up goo
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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1036
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Posted - 2013.11.21 16:11:00 -
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Funny to see players say that they are not going to be bothered with people siphoning their goo because because the theft is going to help increase their profit margins, when they could have created this 10+% product loss artificially.... if they have not already been doing that exact thing to begin with. |
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Angus McRothimay
Ordo Aetemas Noctis
4
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Posted - 2013.11.21 16:22:00 -
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So - Stealing moon goo will result in an increase in the market price, that in turn will make stealing moon goo more profitable
Sweet |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1373
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:14:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote:Funny to see players say that they are not going to be bothered with people siphoning their goo because because the theft is going to help increase their profit margins, when they could have created this 10+% product loss artificially.... if they have not already been doing that exact thing to begin with. That would be pretty funny if it were what people were saying. |
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