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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:37:00 -
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Good afternoon Capsuleers!
Today CCP Rise is here to shed a little more light on the Astero and Stratios, the two Sisters of EVE Ships that will be coming on November 19th with EVE Online: Rubicon.
Check out his new Dev Blog here for further details on the ships, their intended uses and links to their final attributes. |
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Koban Agalder
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:50:00 -
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Yay!
hm? |
Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:52:00 -
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These look very tasty indeed.
Though I'm a tad sad with the graph ****.
Would have been interesting to see SoE LP vs Caldari Navy or Fed Navy for example. |
Koban Agalder
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
12
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:53:00 -
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"test"
Third!?
"/test" |
Koban Agalder
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
12
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:55:00 -
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CCP Falcon why do you keep deleting those natural "first,second etc...." posts ?
Or is this monster which ate our sigs still on rampage? |
Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:58:00 -
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I'm at work right now. What are normal LP prices for pirate frigates and cruisers? |
Koban Agalder
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
12
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:04:00 -
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Rees Noturana wrote:I'm at work right now. What are normal LP prices for pirate frigates and cruisers? 80k lp for blueprint. Current SiSi stats for SoE cruiser is 120k lp & 30M Isk for blueprint. |
Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
186
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:04:00 -
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inb4 Dinsdale and his tinfoil hat about the further DECIMATION of highsec income |
Menero Orti
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:06:00 -
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I dunno maybe it's just me but frankly that white on the ship looks very untextured to me. Maybe it's the color pallet or something |
Berluth Luthian
Meltdown.
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:07:00 -
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What do you mean 'up to 50%' are LP store offers going to fluctuate now or something? Have you guys finally started looking into messing with LP store prices/value? |
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Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:08:00 -
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Haha, nicely done with the Osmon stomp. Gotta love it.
One question -- the corp mentioned for the lower-cost blueprints is the "Sanctuary Corporation" -- does that refer to the NPC corporation "The Sanctuary," headquartered in X-7OMU, or a different, as-yet unreleased corporation? |
Amitious Turkey
The Red Circle Inc.
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:09:00 -
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These...These are the ships I have been waiting for. |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:12:00 -
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This is going to be one hilarious thunderdome in PB. Good idea on the split corp. |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment
634
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:19:00 -
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Querns wrote: One question -- the corp mentioned for the lower-cost blueprints is the "Sanctuary Corporation" -- does that refer to the NPC corporation "The Sanctuary," headquartered in X-7OMU, or a different, as-yet unreleased corporation?
Hidden Goon swarm buff ;-) |
Shrike Arghast
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:22:00 -
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I really like these designs. They seem to blend Gallente and Caldari in a perfect symbiosis. |
Callic Veratar
506
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:31:00 -
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Also looking forward to the Nestor battleship. |
Lilliana Stelles
937
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:37:00 -
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Shrike Arghast wrote:I really like these designs. They seem to blend Gallente and Caldari in a perfect symbiosis.
I don't see anything Caldari about them except the slow speed. Unless you're referring to the "bulky" hull design. |
Aeril Malkyre
Knights of the Ouroboros
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:38:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:We hope you guys enjoy the new ships, and make sure to keep your eyes peeled following Rubicon, the Sisters of EVE may not be done giving us new toys quite yetGǪ Please be an exploration battleship. Please Please Please Please. |
Lilliana Stelles
937
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Posted - 2013.11.05 16:43:00 -
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To be honest I'm terrified of this frigate. The rebalanced Tristan was OP enough in the right situations (armor, neuts, warriors), and could lock down any remotely cap-reliant short-range frigates.
Now we have one that cloaks and has a resistance bonus. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1403
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:21:00 -
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l0rd carlos wrote:Querns wrote: One question -- the corp mentioned for the lower-cost blueprints is the "Sanctuary Corporation" -- does that refer to the NPC corporation "The Sanctuary," headquartered in X-7OMU, or a different, as-yet unreleased corporation?
Hidden Goon swarm buff ;-)
What is hidden about it? |
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:23:00 -
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Querns wrote:Haha, nicely done with the Osmon stomp. Gotta love it.
One question -- the corp mentioned for the lower-cost blueprints is the "Sanctuary Corporation" -- does that refer to the NPC corporation "The Sanctuary," headquartered in X-7OMU, or a different, as-yet unreleased corporation? Unfortunately, yes
inb4 people start kiling nullbear mission runners there |
JamDunc
Team JK
76
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:31:00 -
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So whos space is The Sanctuary in? I am going to guess Goons, but you never know.
Its going to be worth a lot of money to whoever owns it. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1403
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:33:00 -
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JamDunc wrote:So whos space is The Sanctuary in? I am going to guess Goons, but you never know.
Its going to be worth a lot of money to whoever owns it.
Of course goons |
Megnamon
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:38:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:l0rd carlos wrote:Querns wrote: One question -- the corp mentioned for the lower-cost blueprints is the "Sanctuary Corporation" -- does that refer to the NPC corporation "The Sanctuary," headquartered in X-7OMU, or a different, as-yet unreleased corporation?
Hidden Goon swarm buff ;-) What is hidden about it?
Hidden in terms of that we just found out that the only station that sells them at regular price is in CFC territory... I usually try to keep my tinfoil hat "off", but this one smells of the stinky stink of stink to me. |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
281
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:41:00 -
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Megnamon wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:l0rd carlos wrote:Querns wrote: One question -- the corp mentioned for the lower-cost blueprints is the "Sanctuary Corporation" -- does that refer to the NPC corporation "The Sanctuary," headquartered in X-7OMU, or a different, as-yet unreleased corporation?
Hidden Goon swarm buff ;-) What is hidden about it? Hidden in terms of that we just found out that the only station that sells them at regular price is in CFC territory... I usually try to keep my tinfoil hat "off", but this one smells of the stinky stink of stink to me.
As far as my limited research can tell. This system and the surrounding ones are owned by SOE and all their null stations are here. As far as i can tell they moved there before the goons did and long before these ships were planned /designed. I think you all need to remove any remaining tin foil from your craft. |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:45:00 -
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Yeah, pretty sneaky of CCP to make SoE NPC 0.0 space all those years ago with the foreknowledge that Goonswarm-affiliated alliances would control the surrounding sovereign space when they decided to roll out these new ships.
CCP should probably put this supernatural foresight to better uses...like trying to compete with BF4. |
JamDunc
Team JK
76
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:48:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:Yeah, pretty sneaky of CCP to make SoE NPC 0.0 space all those years ago with the foreknowledge that Goonswarm-affiliated alliances would control the surrounding sovereign space when they decided to roll out these new ships.
CCP should probably put this supernatural foresight to better uses...like trying to compete with BF4.
I guess its just natural to wonder how the plans CCP implement tend to benefit goons over most other groups. I think Goons are just crazy lucky :-) |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2101
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:51:00 -
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JamDunc wrote:So whos space is The Sanctuary in? I am going to guess Goons, but you never know.
Its going to be worth a lot of money to whoever owns it.
Availability in highsec means highsec mission runners will basically cap the price. Figure that cap will be around 900 isk/LP from the highsec offer. If the highest offer is 50% more expensive than the nullsec offer, that doubles the isk/LP from the nullsec offer, so you're looking at 1900-2k isk/LP tops.
By comparison, a Crystal implant gets you about 2900-3200 isk/LP, depending on which one you choose.
It'd be possible for someone heavily farming the nullsec agent to squeeze the highsec guys out of the market, of course, but if they do that they're throwing their own profit away by shrinking their isk/LP factor. They'd need to drive the highsec offer probably down below 500 isk/LP, and of course as soon as they raise prices to cash in, people in highsec can go straight back to farming.
All that adds up to is that this isn't the nullsec cash cow it appears to be. Now if they'd been set exclusive to Sanctuary, well, that would be another matter. I'm sure Dinsdale will be back around shortly to tell us all how CCP will remove the highsec agents in Rubicon 1.1, though. |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
282
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Posted - 2013.11.05 17:53:00 -
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JamDunc wrote:Varius Xeral wrote:Yeah, pretty sneaky of CCP to make SoE NPC 0.0 space all those years ago with the foreknowledge that Goonswarm-affiliated alliances would control the surrounding sovereign space when they decided to roll out these new ships.
CCP should probably put this supernatural foresight to better uses...like trying to compete with BF4. I guess its just natural to wonder how the plans CCP implement tend to benefit goons over most other groups. I think Goons are just crazy lucky :-)
That is my thinking too. When i win it was skill an cunning. When someone else wins it was luck.
Would i also be right in thinking that no one moaning about this does mission in low or null anyway making all this rather moot? |
Tara Tyrael
High Volume Ind.
91
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Posted - 2013.11.05 18:00:00 -
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Yea, looking at numbers, it's unlikely that highsec one will ever manage to hold 2000 ISK/LP conversion
Sisters of EVE / Food Relief (Available in Highsec) Astero - 100.000 LP + 10.000.000 ISK --> 2.000 ISK Per LP suggests price on market at: 210.000.000 ISK Stratios - 300.000 LP + 20.000.000 ISK --> 2.000 ISK Per LP suggests price on market at: 620.000.000 ISK
Astero 1 run BPC - 30.000 LP + 15.000.000 ISK --> 2.000 ISK Per LP suggests price on market at: 75.000.000 ISK (add few million for mats) Stratios 1 run BPC - 120.000 LP + 30.000.000 ISK --> 2.000 ISK Per LP suggests price on market at: 270.000.000 ISK (add few million for mats)
The Sanctuary (Not available in Highsec) Astero - 100.000 LP + 10.000.000 ISK --> 2.000 ISK Per LP suggests price on market at: 165.000.000 ISK Stratios - 240.000 LP + 15.000.000 ISK --> 2.000 ISK Per LP suggests price on market at: 495.000.000 ISK
Astero 1 run BPC - 20.000 LP + 10.000.000 ISK --> 2.000 ISK Per LP suggests price on market at: 50.000.000 ISK (add few million for mats) Stratios 1 run BPC - 80.000 LP + 20.000.000 ISK --> 2.000 ISK Per LP suggests price on market at: 180.000.000 ISK (add few million for mats)
Again, I'm guessing nobody will buy the ship itself since you need like Indy I to build it, and its far cheaper, so we are looking at most at 75 mill for frigate and 270 mill per cruiser. Knowing that lots of ships already have about 600-700 ISK per LP cost, would not be wild to expect frigate to settle at 30-35 million and cruiser at 100-110 million ISK |
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