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Ronin Gold Solbor
Superior Ratio High Sec Dropouts
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Posted - 2013.11.06 18:36:00 -
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TodayGÇÖs news post on the Event tomorrow is the sign of tears to come from the, way to rich, Incursion runners of Eve. Finally CCP has decided to stop up the open faucet of ISK that has been gobbled up by the Incursions-Online players of Eve.
Are we finally going to see an end to the drama queens and there incessant posting in M&C, could it mean they will actually have to learn how to play eve rather than just keep hitting F1. Or will they go play WOW or Diablo 3 and leave us in peace?
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Gonna biomass
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.06 18:41:00 -
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Quote:Some believe it is a new assault on SanshaGÇÖs Nation in order to end its incursions once and for all ...
Thank ******* god, it is about time! |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
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Posted - 2013.11.06 19:14:00 -
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damn, I was just about to jump on that train. |
Skeito
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.06 19:17:00 -
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more likely that another pirate faction is to start incursions and this is the initial CTA to try to repel them. |
Varkath Drakan
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.06 19:30:00 -
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Damn, I wanna see what this is but I'll be at school when it starts |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
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Posted - 2013.11.06 19:33:00 -
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its going to be related to ghost sites. The "explosion" happened in Syndicate, and this dev blog talks about how pirates are experimenting with stuffs and somehow the result is yurts and warp speed implants. |
Varkath Drakan
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.06 19:37:00 -
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Batelle wrote:its going to be related to ghost sites. The "explosion" happened in Syndicate, and this dev blog talks about how pirates are experimenting with stuffs and somehow the result is yurts and warp speed implants.
Ghost sites? What are those
edit: read the link :p |
Gonna biomass
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.06 19:46:00 -
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Quote:while others have claimed it has something to do with the unusual explosion detected several days ago.
This claim sounds like the event is some sorta gay pride parade about some faster orgasm achieving implant....like I said earlier....gay. |
Zwo Zateki
RAISA SRP
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Posted - 2013.11.06 20:36:00 -
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Ronin Gold Solbor wrote:TodayGÇÖs news post on the Event tomorrow is the sign of tears to come from the, way to rich, Incursion runners of Eve. Finally CCP has decided to stop up the open faucet of ISK that has been gobbled up by the Incursions-Online players of Eve. Are we finally going to see an end to the drama queens and there incessant posting in M&C, could it mean they will actually have to learn how to play eve rather than just keep hitting F1. Or will they go play WOW or Diablo 3 and leave us in peace? Guess what, any kind of teamwork is sort of F1 in EVE or otherwise. Yet it is still better than boring solo PvE of EVE.
And Incursions actually consume your time unlike deep null semi-afk carrier ratting. |
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy Zero Hour Alliance
188
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:16:00 -
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The explosion sent out mothrays that infested all level 4 agent's eyes. They will now all migrate to low sec after many candles are lit. Also introduction of lp for tin foil with optional origami skill for hat making. |
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
15356
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:49:00 -
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CCP may nerf Incursions like they do to everything else in this game but they definitely won't remove Incursions. That fact alone tells me the thread title and OP is definitely incorrect :
Ronin Gold Solbor wrote:The ISK train is over, Incursions coming to an end? TodayGÇÖs news post on the Event tomorrow is the sign of tears to come from the, way to rich, Incursion runners of Eve. Finally CCP has decided to stop up the open faucet of ISK that has been gobbled up by the Incursions-Online players of Eve. Are we finally going to see an end to the drama queens and there incessant posting in M&C, could it mean they will actually have to learn how to play eve rather than just keep hitting F1. Or will they go play WOW or Diablo 3 and leave us in peace?
I think the Live Event will be something like this :
Skeito wrote:more likely that another pirate faction is to start incursions and this is the initial CTA to try to repel them. Which will lead to this :
Batelle wrote:its going to be related to ghost sites. The "explosion" happened in Syndicate, and this dev blog talks about how pirates are experimenting with stuffs and somehow the result is yurts and warp speed implants.
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ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:52:00 -
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Sexual discrimination post removed. Forum rule 6. Racism and discrimination are prohibited.
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Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
572
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:56:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:CCP may nerf Incursions like they do to everything else in this game but they definitely won't remove Incursions. That fact alone tells me the thread title and OP is definitely incorrect : Ronin Gold Solbor wrote:The ISK train is over, Incursions coming to an end? TodayGÇÖs news post on the Event tomorrow is the sign of tears to come from the, way to rich, Incursion runners of Eve. Finally CCP has decided to stop up the open faucet of ISK that has been gobbled up by the Incursions-Online players of Eve. Are we finally going to see an end to the drama queens and there incessant posting in M&C, could it mean they will actually have to learn how to play eve rather than just keep hitting F1. Or will they go play WOW or Diablo 3 and leave us in peace? I think the Live Event will be something like this : Skeito wrote:more likely that another pirate faction is to start incursions and this is the initial CTA to try to repel them. Which will lead to this : Batelle wrote:its going to be related to ghost sites. The "explosion" happened in Syndicate, and this dev blog talks about how pirates are experimenting with stuffs and somehow the result is yurts and warp speed implants. DMC How dare you show up with logic and candour in a forum thread. |
Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
103
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:55:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:CCP may nerf Incursions like they do to everything else in this game but they definitely won't remove Incursions. That fact alone tells me the thread title and OP is definitely incorrect : Ronin Gold Solbor wrote:The ISK train is over, Incursions coming to an end? TodayGÇÖs news post on the Event tomorrow is the sign of tears to come from the, way to rich, Incursion runners of Eve. Finally CCP has decided to stop up the open faucet of ISK that has been gobbled up by the Incursions-Online players of Eve. Are we finally going to see an end to the drama queens and there incessant posting in M&C, could it mean they will actually have to learn how to play eve rather than just keep hitting F1. Or will they go play WOW or Diablo 3 and leave us in peace? I think the Live Event will be something like this : Skeito wrote:more likely that another pirate faction is to start incursions and this is the initial CTA to try to repel them. Which will lead to this : Batelle wrote:its going to be related to ghost sites. The "explosion" happened in Syndicate, and this dev blog talks about how pirates are experimenting with stuffs and somehow the result is yurts and warp speed implants. DMC How dare you show up with logic and candour in a forum thread.
Leave him alone or he may start pimping his "Plan." |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
15364
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Posted - 2013.11.07 03:45:00 -
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Patri Andari wrote:Leave him alone or he may start pimping his "Plan." You jellied?
Anyway, to set the record straight, I don't 'Pimp'. I simply refer players to 'The Plan' when it seems appropriate.
DMC |
Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
574
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Posted - 2013.11.07 11:34:00 -
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Skeito wrote:more likely that another pirate faction is to start incursions and this is the initial CTA to try to repel them. IDK if that would be useful, since Incursion Sansha unlike mission Sansha do Omni damage while Omni tanking, and pretty much all forms of E-war. So I am not sure how giving players different coloured ships to shoot at would be a change worth noticing. |
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy Zero Hour Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.07 12:30:00 -
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Its all about ghost sites BTW. |
MikaPivav
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.07 12:39:00 -
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the biggest sink ever invented in EVE is nullsec. It safer than high sec , more isk than incursions whatever people say. At least incursions are team work .. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
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Posted - 2013.11.07 13:28:00 -
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MikaPivav wrote:the biggest sink ever invented in EVE is nullsec. It safer than high sec , more isk than incursions whatever people say. At least incursions are team work ..
There is a thread right now where the same people that constantly lie about how high sec makes more ISK / hour than null are bragging about how much ISK they are pulling in running null sec anom's.
Incursions do not make more per hour that null sec. They never have, not even in the era of the legion fleets. Because what the null sec liars conveniently forget is the amount of prep/travel time needed to get fleets organized, versus the undock/ rat visible anom's solo instantly in null sec.
Null sec solo anom runners don't travel through 20 jumps, typically manned by suicide gankers, to get to an area where they will PvE. |
Varkath Drakan
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.07 15:24:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:MikaPivav wrote:the biggest sink ever invented in EVE is nullsec. It safer than high sec , more isk than incursions whatever people say. At least incursions are team work .. There is a thread right now where the same people that constantly lie about how high sec makes more ISK / hour than null are bragging about how much ISK they are pulling in running null sec anom's. Incursions do not make more per hour that null sec. They never have, not even in the era of the legion fleets. Because what the null sec liars conveniently forget is the amount of prep/travel time needed to get fleets organized, versus the undock/ rat visible anom's solo instantly in null sec. Null sec solo anom runners don't travel through 20 jumps, typically manned by suicide gankers, to get to an area where they will PvE.
But can you make 120m/hr with a 3 mil sp character for hours on end without worrying about someone coming and blowing you up in null unless it is deep sov space? |
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3245
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Posted - 2013.11.07 15:37:00 -
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Varkath Drakan wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:MikaPivav wrote:the biggest sink ever invented in EVE is nullsec. It safer than high sec , more isk than incursions whatever people say. At least incursions are team work .. There is a thread right now where the same people that constantly lie about how high sec makes more ISK / hour than null are bragging about how much ISK they are pulling in running null sec anom's. Incursions do not make more per hour that null sec. They never have, not even in the era of the legion fleets. Because what the null sec liars conveniently forget is the amount of prep/travel time needed to get fleets organized, versus the undock/ rat visible anom's solo instantly in null sec. Null sec solo anom runners don't travel through 20 jumps, typically manned by suicide gankers, to get to an area where they will PvE. But can you make 120m/hr with a 3 mil sp character for hours on end without worrying about someone coming and blowing you up in null unless it is deep sov space?
You can never expectr prejudiced people to take into account what others have to do for the same result. Dinsdale wants us to have to calculate travel and wait times for incursion isk, but gives no thought to the same kinds of barriers in null sec, such as crowded systems where the "good" anoms are taken, having to dock up/get/safe when a neutral comes in or having to gimp fit your PVE ship with tings like neuts and ECM drones or micro jump drives to survive etc etc. That's what prejudice does, it makes you blind.
There are many such reason why many null sec pilots have high sec pve isking alts, the high sec zealots among us don't want to know why that is. And they never have a single good reason why PVE players like me would need to lie about isk making. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1414
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Posted - 2013.11.07 15:44:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Varkath Drakan wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:MikaPivav wrote:the biggest sink ever invented in EVE is nullsec. It safer than high sec , more isk than incursions whatever people say. At least incursions are team work .. There is a thread right now where the same people that constantly lie about how high sec makes more ISK / hour than null are bragging about how much ISK they are pulling in running null sec anom's. Incursions do not make more per hour that null sec. They never have, not even in the era of the legion fleets. Because what the null sec liars conveniently forget is the amount of prep/travel time needed to get fleets organized, versus the undock/ rat visible anom's solo instantly in null sec. Null sec solo anom runners don't travel through 20 jumps, typically manned by suicide gankers, to get to an area where they will PvE. But can you make 120m/hr with a 3 mil sp character for hours on end without worrying about someone coming and blowing you up in null unless it is deep sov space? You can never expectr prejudiced people to take into account what others have to do for the same result. Dinsdale wants us to have to calculate travel and wait times for incursion isk, but gives no thought to the same kinds of barriers in null sec, such as crowded systems where the "good" anoms are taken, having to dock up/get/safe when a neutral comes in or having to gimp fit your PVE ship with tings like neuts and ECM drones or micro jump drives to survive etc etc. That's what prejudice does, it makes you blind. There are many such reason why many null sec pilots have high sec pve isking alts, the high sec zealots among us don't want to know why that is. And they never have a single good reason why PVE players like me would need to lie about isk making.
You conveniently forget that I lived in Pure Blind, with PL and a small, but serious group based out of the NPC station down the pipe (forget the name, but they have run in the tourney), constantly harassing. I know precisely how much I made in null per hour, compared to high sec.
So don't try telling me how poor null sec players are. |
Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
575
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Posted - 2013.11.07 15:47:00 -
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Varkath Drakan wrote: But can you make 120m/hr with a 3 mil sp character for hours on end without worrying about someone coming and blowing you up in null unless it is deep sov space?
That's the funniest post I have seen so far, a fleet of 3 mil SP pilots would never survive a VG, let alone get an invite to a fleet that could.
Edit: you must be thinking of FW, not Incursions. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3245
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Posted - 2013.11.07 15:58:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:Varkath Drakan wrote: But can you make 120m/hr with a 3 mil sp character for hours on end without worrying about someone coming and blowing you up in null unless it is deep sov space?
That's the funniest post I have seen so far, a fleet of 3 mil SP pilots would never survive a VG, let alone get an invite to a fleet that could. Edit: you must be thinking of FW, not Incursions.
Case in point. He never said anything about a fleet.
3 mil SP is low, but I've introduced people to incursions flying megas and tempests with 5 mil or less. Those guys using best named guns wouldn't have been able to malke the same isk in null sec missions anoms or plexs as they could in incursions. Each of them were in navy and then pirate ships as soon as they could fly them just from the isk we made flying with tvp and warp to me.
Thanks to incursions I can jump into a ship that can't even shoot (scimitar, basi in shiled fleets for examples) and make isk. Can't do that in null the same way unless yoru null area lucks up and gets an incursion which needs clearing.
I do all combat PVE expect wormhole stuff(missions, incursions, exploration), and the simple truth is that high sec incursions are the best steady+safe isk there is to be had. Not chance based like most null PVE, and my high sec incursion runner doens't even have local chat on screen (because TVP, ISN primary and Warp To me's chat are WAY more useful and entertaining lol especially when DIN got pissed and killed MOM) where as local chat and intel channels are a must in null.
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Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
755
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Posted - 2013.11.07 16:01:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:Skeito wrote:more likely that another pirate faction is to start incursions and this is the initial CTA to try to repel them. IDK if that would be useful, since Incursion Sansha unlike mission Sansha do Omni damage while Omni tanking, and pretty much all forms of E-war. So I am not sure how giving players different coloured ships to shoot at would be a change worth noticing.
It could mean new sites but they could do them with Sansha too instead of generating new faction... |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3245
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Posted - 2013.11.07 16:04:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
You conveniently forget that I lived in Pure Blind, with PL and a small, but serious group based out of the NPC station down the pipe (forget the name, but they have run in the tourney), constantly harassing. I know precisely how much I made in null per hour, compared to high sec.
So don't try telling me how poor null sec players are.
See, prejudice.
Who said null players are poor. I make good isk in Null, as do most people.
There is an imbalance though. i notice it while farming anoms with my 1.5 bil isk fit mach macking 28-34 mil ticks while having to watch local like a hawk, when i could be flying a much cheaper Basi in an incursion fleet making similar isk without having to look at local. This is one of the reasons why high sec pve is so popular among null players, even in cases where is less isk like missions, it's still safer, steadier, not chance based. CONCORD will come and kill people who shoot you. You can go AFK without a cloak, POS or outpost. etc etc.
You'd have to be interested in the truth to understand this though, and all you're interested in is your agenda.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3245
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Posted - 2013.11.07 16:07:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Goldiiee wrote:Skeito wrote:more likely that another pirate faction is to start incursions and this is the initial CTA to try to repel them. IDK if that would be useful, since Incursion Sansha unlike mission Sansha do Omni damage while Omni tanking, and pretty much all forms of E-war. So I am not sure how giving players different coloured ships to shoot at would be a change worth noticing. It could mean new sites but they could do them with Sansha too instead of generating new faction...
Incursions shoulda been Jove or Sleeper to begin with.
It makes no in-game sense that Sansha is so powerful it can invade empires and Capsuleer Allainces but not powerful enough to let his minions use the good ships in Sansha Blockade, Sansha Sanctum or even Centus Assembly lol. |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
284
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Posted - 2013.11.07 16:12:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:There is a thread right now where the same people that constantly lie about how high sec makes more ISK / hour than null are bragging about how much ISK they are pulling in running null sec anom's.
Incursions do not make more per hour that null sec. They never have, not even in the era of the legion fleets. Because what the null sec liars conveniently forget is the amount of prep/travel time needed to get fleets organized, versus the undock/ rat visible anom's solo instantly in null sec.
Null sec solo anom runners don't travel through 20 jumps, typically manned by suicide gankers, to get to an area where they will PvE.
-You only have to make those 20 jumps once every few days. This is not a big deal. -If suicide gankers are a problem while moving your incursion battleship, you are very much doing it wrong. -Also, if nullsec people were offered the option of moving twenty jumps through hisec in order to reach their anomalies in exchange for not having to deal with roaming ganks and cloaky hotdroppers, a lot of them would do it. -you sound very mad. People that are not mad do not throw around the words "lie" and "liars" so easily. |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
755
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Posted - 2013.11.07 16:13:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Goldiiee wrote:Varkath Drakan wrote: But can you make 120m/hr with a 3 mil sp character for hours on end without worrying about someone coming and blowing you up in null unless it is deep sov space?
That's the funniest post I have seen so far, a fleet of 3 mil SP pilots would never survive a VG, let alone get an invite to a fleet that could. Edit: you must be thinking of FW, not Incursions. Case in point. He never said anything about a fleet. 3 mil SP is low, but I've introduced people to incursions flying megas and tempests with 5 mil or less. Those guys using best named guns wouldn't have been able to malke the same isk in null sec missions anoms or plexs as they could in incursions. Each of them were in navy and then pirate ships as soon as they could fly them just from the isk we made flying with tvp and warp to me. Thanks to incursions I can jump into a ship that can't even shoot (scimitar, basi in shiled fleets for examples) and make isk. Can't do that in null the same way unless yoru null area lucks up and gets an incursion which needs clearing. I do all combat PVE expect wormhole stuff(missions, incursions, exploration), and the simple truth is that high sec incursions are the best steady+safe isk there is to be had. Not chance based like most null PVE, and my high sec incursion runner doens't even have local chat on screen (because TVP, ISN primary and Warp To me's chat are WAY more useful and entertaining lol especially when DIN got pissed and killed MOM) where as local chat and intel channels are a must in null.
This example is someone getting carried to ISK. It's only possible because people are willing to do the lifting for someone else. Getting help is powerfull everywhere. Goonwaffe newbie are more succesfull on average because there is an army of vet making the programs run to amke it easy for them. Not because being a goon is OP.
I still agree that the reward is skewed on one side too much but how much less should an high sec inc pay for people to enjoy the null better payout? |
Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
575
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Posted - 2013.11.07 16:26:00 -
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Like Frosty said, sure a 3mil SP toon can get in a fleet, but that is tempered by the (Assuming VG) 9 other toons with 30mil SP each. I fly with ISN and it is no secret that without around a minimum of 20mil SP you won't get an invite, so the really high end ISK is actually not really available to the low SP characters. |
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