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Athena Maldoran
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2460
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Posted - 2013.11.06 19:12:00 -
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I recommend posting about them somewhere, and bumping them to oblivion Most of them havent paid there miner permit anyway. CCP should make a general rule that you cant activate miner modules when in a npc Corporation |
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation
1107
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Posted - 2013.11.06 20:38:00 -
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Athena Maldoran wrote:I recommend posting about them somewhere, and bumping them to oblivion Most of them havent paid there miner permit anyway. CCP should make a general rule that you cant activate miner modules when in a npc Corporation
Go home Athena, you're drunk. |
Heather Tsukaya
Feather Ventures
14
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Posted - 2013.11.06 20:52:00 -
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I ignore miners because mining is boring and killing miners is boring. I'm pretty sure tritanium magically appears in Jita I have no idea how it gets there. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1104
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:45:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlhlwuf4qjs is the best response to ISObox cheats I have ever seen.
People who use ISObox to effectively duplicate minerals (in this case getting over 50 times the minerals a legitimate non-bot would get for the same effort) deserve to be hunted down (in game) like the cancers they are. So do RMTers and the other forms of botters that CCP actually act on. |
Heather Tsukaya
Feather Ventures
14
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:03:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlhlwuf4qjs is the best response to ISObox cheats I have ever seen.
People who use ISObox to effectively duplicate minerals (in this case getting over 50 times the minerals a legitimate non-bot would get for the same effort) deserve to be hunted down (in game) like the cancers they are. So do RMTers and the other forms of botters that CCP actually act on. A lot of those people live in nullsec.
Nullsec alliances will gladly offer someone who can multibox 50 miners protection in return for something back.
Here is an example of a nullsec ISOboxer getting owned: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffh_SvMcRCo |
Violet Crumble
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:21:00 -
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Quote:CCP should make a general rule that you cant activate miner modules when in a npc Corporation
Be careful what you wish for. If they did this, they'd probably balance it by preventing any offensive modules being activated in highsec outside a duel. Bumping without ganking would get boring very quickly and all miners would just head to highsec. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1611
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:59:00 -
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Athena Maldoran wrote:I recommend posting about them somewhere, and bumping them to oblivion Most of them havent paid there miner permit anyway. CCP should make a general rule that you cant activate miner modules when in a npc Corporation
Athena,
How many forums are you going to cross post this on?
Sounds like someone is butt hurt that some multiboxing miner cleared the belts before you could get any mining done. |
Kaylee Stardrifter
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve Filthy Bastards
1
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Posted - 2013.11.07 03:47:00 -
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Heather Tsukaya wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlhlwuf4qjs is the best response to ISObox cheats I have ever seen.
People who use ISObox to effectively duplicate minerals (in this case getting over 50 times the minerals a legitimate non-bot would get for the same effort) deserve to be hunted down (in game) like the cancers they are. So do RMTers and the other forms of botters that CCP actually act on. A lot of those people live in nullsec. Nullsec alliances will gladly offer someone who can multibox 50 miners protection in return for something back. Here is an example of a nullsec ISOboxer getting owned: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffh_SvMcRCoEDIT: From what I heard. The bubble and the cyno were provided by a friendly awoxer who was sick of his alliances "it's not technically botting" ways.
While that was hilarious and stupid at the same time CCP has flat out said ISBoxer is not botting. Just like the guy that would pvp with 15 ravens all pressing F1 at the same time in null sec.
They have already increased prices on hulls by adding extra minerals effectively doubling the cost of the hulls while also nerfing all loot drops.
Frankly i dont care where the minerals come from as long as i can keep shitting out carriers and dreads for people to welp. |
Jason Xado
Xado Industries
143
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Posted - 2013.11.07 04:12:00 -
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Athena Maldoran wrote:when you see a isoboxing miner, what do you do?
Wave hello.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1111
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Posted - 2013.11.07 06:17:00 -
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Kaylee Stardrifter wrote: They have already increased prices on hulls by adding extra minerals effectively doubling the cost of the hulls while also nerfing all loot drops.
Frankly i dont care where the minerals come from as long as i can keep shitting out carriers and dreads for people to welp.
Just because it is not recognised by CCP as cheating doesn't mean that it should not be.
The ISOboxer cancer is the reason mineral requirements keep going up - so many cheats duplicating minerals mean that the mineral sinks must keep getting bigger to keep up.
If CCP won't act to deal with cheats, it is up to the players to. |
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Kaylee Stardrifter
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve Filthy Bastards
1
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Posted - 2013.11.07 07:03:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Kaylee Stardrifter wrote: They have already increased prices on hulls by adding extra minerals effectively doubling the cost of the hulls while also nerfing all loot drops.
Frankly i dont care where the minerals come from as long as i can keep shitting out carriers and dreads for people to welp.
Just because it is not recognised by CCP as cheating doesn't mean that it should not be. The ISOboxer cancer is the reason mineral requirements keep going up - so many cheats duplicating minerals mean that the mineral sinks must keep getting bigger to keep up. If CCP won't act to deal with cheats, it is up to the players to.
So your argument is even though CCP says its ok to use because you have to actually input commands to do things unlike botting where a scripted program does it all for you its cheating.
At that rate why not ban all alts. Multiboxing gives me an advantage over all the scrubs that run one account.
Calling it a cancer to have a program that keeps prices reasonable is pants on head ********. 2 years ago before the nerfs to loot drops and drone regions i was paying 1 isk / unit of trit. 9 months ago it was at 8 isk / unit. RIght now its stable priced @ 5 isk.
The only people that seem to cry about ISBoxer are the ones that dont want to use it, I myself do not use it. I dont need it to mine or rat when i am running my 12 accounts. Some people do use it.
The fact that CCP is collecting a check for every account said ISBoxer user same as they are for you what do they care if its one guy with 50 accounts for 50 guys with 1 account.
Eve is all about having specialized accounts to make Almighty isk as efficiently as possible. I dont tell you how to line your wallets why should i tell someone willing to mine with 60 accounts how to make his. Hell I would rather find said dedicated miner and kill him. Doesnt mean i dont like him or what he is doing. I just like knocking down sand castles. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1111
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Posted - 2013.11.07 07:57:00 -
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Kaylee Stardrifter wrote:
So your argument is even though CCP says its ok to use because you have to actually input commands to do things unlike botting where a scripted program does it all for you its cheating.
At that rate why not ban all alts. Multiboxing gives me an advantage over all the scrubs that run one account.
Calling it a cancer to have a program that keeps prices reasonable is pants on head ********. 2 years ago before the nerfs to loot drops and drone regions i was paying 1 isk / unit of trit. 9 months ago it was at 8 isk / unit. RIght now its stable priced @ 5 isk.
The only people that seem to cry about ISBoxer are the ones that dont want to use it, I myself do not use it. I dont need it to mine or rat when i am running my 12 accounts. Some people do use it.
The fact that CCP is collecting a check for every account said ISBoxer user same as they are for you what do they care if its one guy with 50 accounts for 50 guys with 1 account.
Eve is all about having specialized accounts to make Almighty isk as efficiently as possible. I dont tell you how to line your wallets why should i tell someone willing to mine with 60 accounts how to make his. Hell I would rather find said dedicated miner and kill him. Doesnt mean i dont like him or what he is doing. I just like knocking down sand castles.
I don't use illicit RMT, I don't use ISOboxer, and I don't use 'grey area' RMT like the (soon to be banned) SOMER referal system.
The people duplicating minerals and vomiting enormous amounts on the market are THE REASON that most subcaps had their mineral requirements raised so ridiculously high recently. Hurting mostly the newer player (as I have a few billion behind me, so I don't really care if I take a subcap loss of a couple hundred million).
CCP get paid for the accounts of RMT ISK sellers, for botters, and for those that used the Autopilot to 0 hack. For the sake of the game's integrity they acted and sacrificed those accounts and their money from them. They should do the same to the ISObox cheats.
Until they do, an ISOboxer is about the only type of person I will willingly take a sec status hit on my main to podkill in highsec. |
Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse Cannibal Empire
2677
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Posted - 2013.11.07 13:11:00 -
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You Kill them...
http://kane.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=17086221
ALL... |
Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse Cannibal Empire
2677
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Posted - 2013.11.07 13:14:00 -
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Stupid EVE Forums adding extra characters.
http://kane.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=17086221
Cope and Paste |
Starrakatt
Hunter Killers. Forsaken Asylum
40
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Posted - 2013.11.07 14:32:00 -
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It still doesn't work... ^ ^
On a side note, I saw The Wis mining this week, except he had only a third or half of his fleet with him. Maybe he wisened up and spread in multiple system, or have not recovered financially yet. |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
582
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Posted - 2013.11.07 15:14:00 -
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You do it the Kane way http://p0wnd.nl/kb/index.php/kill_related/70216/ or inform the clean up crew from CODE. |
Electrique Wizard
Mutually Lucrative Business Proposals Market and Contract PVP
51
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Posted - 2013.11.08 08:40:00 -
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You kindly convo them and inquire them about the validity of their mining permit ofcourse. |
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition Insurance Fraud.
328
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Posted - 2013.11.08 09:03:00 -
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Electrique Wizard wrote:You kindly convo them and inquire them about the validity of their mining permit ofcourse. ^This, while checking the local market for catalysts as a necessary precaution against rebel activity. |
Starbuck05
The Mjolnir Bloc Talons Of Blood
32
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Posted - 2013.11.09 15:10:00 -
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Turn in to the hulk and go smash ? |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
12001
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Posted - 2013.11.10 19:42:00 -
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Athena Maldoran wrote:I recommend posting about them somewhere, and bumping them to oblivion Most of them havent paid there miner permit anyway. CCP should make a general rule that you cant activate miner modules when in a npc Corporation I ask them if they have stairs in their home and/or if they're jelly and/or some other insufferable Internet meme. |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
12089
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Posted - 2013.11.10 19:45:00 -
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If the guy is mining in nullsec, where his mining is actually worthwhile (it is a royal pain to import all the low-ends necessary for supercapital production), then killing his multibox mining fleet accomplishes one thing: makes you feel good about yourself. Dudes who multibox 20 or 40 clients are pulling in enough comparatively useless and easily moved high-ends that they can replace the cost of their lost mining barges in a couple of hours. If you really want to cause grief to a competent miner, rather than harvest the ineffectual tears of a clueless newbie in highsec, then what you need to do is devise a way to consistently interdict the low-ends necessary for nullsec production.
But that would require sustained effort, and who in the world has time for that? Sky Captain of Your Heart
Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn |
Drachen Protectorate
Aerie Logistics and Construction
0
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Posted - 2013.12.02 18:06:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Kaylee Stardrifter wrote:
So your argument is even though CCP says its ok to use because you have to actually input commands to do things unlike botting where a scripted program does it all for you its cheating.
At that rate why not ban all alts. Multiboxing gives me an advantage over all the scrubs that run one account.
Calling it a cancer to have a program that keeps prices reasonable is pants on head ********. 2 years ago before the nerfs to loot drops and drone regions i was paying 1 isk / unit of trit. 9 months ago it was at 8 isk / unit. RIght now its stable priced @ 5 isk.
The only people that seem to cry about ISBoxer are the ones that dont want to use it, I myself do not use it. I dont need it to mine or rat when i am running my 12 accounts. Some people do use it.
The fact that CCP is collecting a check for every account said ISBoxer user same as they are for you what do they care if its one guy with 50 accounts for 50 guys with 1 account.
Eve is all about having specialized accounts to make Almighty isk as efficiently as possible. I dont tell you how to line your wallets why should i tell someone willing to mine with 60 accounts how to make his. Hell I would rather find said dedicated miner and kill him. Doesnt mean i dont like him or what he is doing. I just like knocking down sand castles.
I don't use illicit RMT, I don't use ISOboxer, and I don't use 'grey area' RMT like the (soon to be banned) SOMER referal system. The people duplicating minerals and vomiting enormous amounts on the market are THE REASON that most subcaps had their mineral requirements raised so ridiculously high recently. Hurting mostly the newer player (as I have a few billion behind me, so I don't really care if I take a subcap loss of a couple hundred million). CCP get paid for the accounts of RMT ISK sellers, for botters, and for those that used the Autopilot to 0 hack. For the sake of the game's integrity they acted and sacrificed those accounts and their money from them. They should do the same to the ISObox cheats. Until they do, an ISOboxer is about the only type of person I will willingly take a sec status hit on my main to podkill in highsec.
Look at them pirate tears. I just wish I could collect them and store for later use.
Duplicating minerals, whoa, this isn't Diablo 1 pot duplicating technique. Everything takes time. |
Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries Intergalactic Conservation Movement
34
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:38:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote: The people duplicating minerals and vomiting enormous amounts on the market are THE REASON that most subcaps had their mineral requirements raised so ridiculously high recently. Hurting mostly the newer player (as I have a few billion behind me, so I don't really care if I take a subcap loss of a couple hundred million).
Actually it really, really isn't. Tiercide is the reason for the mineral build changes, not the availability of the minerals. The hulls are now all comparable in effectiveness (more or less) and so their mineral requirements are now similar as well. The activities of miners had nothing to do with that.
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Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries Intergalactic Conservation Movement
34
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:40:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:
But that would require sustained effort, and who in the world has time for that?
Not even Goons are that bored. |
Courath Al'viendi
Black Fox Marauders
38
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:47:00 -
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Can I please check the validity of your permit for posting the same dumb thread about miner bumping? No one cares about miner bumping. Carry on. |
NaK'Lin
the unified SCUM.
15
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Posted - 2013.12.03 08:12:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote: The people duplicating minerals and vomiting enormous amounts on the market are THE REASON that most subcaps had their mineral requirements raised so ridiculously high recently. Hurting mostly the newer player (as I have a few billion behind me, so I don't really care if I take a subcap loss of a couple hundred million).
Actually, the amount of minerals available is not "duplicated" in any way. it is just being acquired faster, but not faster than 10 toons owned by 10 different people would've mined it anyway. there is no duplication and it is NOT the reason for mineral requirements going up. Stop talking garbage.
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elise densi
35
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Posted - 2013.12.03 11:23:00 -
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if had the time and right ship id bump them off belt or use alt in cata's to save the poor rocks save them poor rocks!
ROCKPEACE !
other than that id love to see more hulkageddons again fun time those
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Yi-Ming Gren
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
34
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Posted - 2013.12.04 08:43:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlhlwuf4qjs is the best response to ISObox cheats I have ever seen.
People who use ISObox to effectively duplicate minerals (in this case getting over 50 times the minerals a legitimate non-bot would get for the same effort) deserve to be hunted down (in game) like the cancers they are. So do RMTers and the other forms of botters that CCP actually act on.
Beautiful, warms my heart every time I see that video. |
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