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Jon Engel
APEX Unlimited
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Posted - 2006.09.20 13:12:00 -
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Your words are meaningless Rodj. May your slaves rise up and ravage your mothers and daughters.
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Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.20 13:20:00 -
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ooo. didnt expect to see this old communique of mine to resurface. TBH I hadnt realised it had taken this long to even get a rescue fleet to land on ReshardV let alone have a continuing investigations findings announced.
This latest revelation that it was an Amarrian Titan that caused this catastrophe is an interesting revelation. Perhaps some fanatical Amarrian sect with access to one wanted to strike a blow against the heretical Gallante Federation? im sure theres pleanty of speculative theories on the matter. But until further infomation is disclosed i suppose speculation is all we can do.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.20 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Irongut Do you read the Gal-Net News? If you had you'd realise that this announcement was made through official channels after an investigation by CONCORD. And, that although it states an Amarr Titan was used it does not accuse the Amarr Empire of anything.
But then a rabid Caldari warmonger like yourself never lets facts get in the way of yet another attempt to incite regional tensions. And, to use such a tragedy as a means to do so...
Shame on YOU.
I suggest you learn to read better, and you'd notice he's speaking to one of your fellow Gallente who went and made the accusation. Or are you too busy with your drugs and *****s to learn how to read in the Federation?
Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath For 50, you can have my goat:P- Tirg |
Kaeleron
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Posted - 2006.09.20 21:13:00 -
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No rescue fleet ever arrived on the surface of that graveyard world. The events that lead to the disaster are as much a mystery and up to speculation now as they were then. Whatever political gain you seek to gain from this, whatever cruelties you wish do inflict, do so and go on with your agendas. This world was abandonded by us long ago. Those who sought to protect it failed. Those who wished to save it failed. Let those souls rest in peace for they did nothing to earn their fate.
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Cmdr Baxter
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.20 21:59:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Kaeleron No rescue fleet ever arrived on the surface of that graveyard world. The events that lead to the disaster are as much a mystery and up to speculation now as they were then .....
The Sisters of EVE are being accused of being liars by a dead man. This is an unusual occurrence, I must say.
Originally by: Kaeleron The events that lead to the disaster are as much a mystery and up to speculation now as they were then. Whatever political gain you seek from this, whatever cruelties you wish do inflict, do so and go on with your agendas.
Very suspicious remarks, in my opinion. We have a rogue Titan on the loose, and you wish the matter to be simply "swept under the rug"? I daresay that this is a matter that should be addressed posthaste.
Originally by: Kaeleron This world was abandonded by us long ago.
Who exactly is "us" in these circumstances? I don't recall a lack of willingness on the part of the capsuleer community to mount not one, but several, rescue missions to Reschard V. _________________________________
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Jack Malus
Gallente Phoenix Wing
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Posted - 2006.09.20 22:04:00 -
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What an utter and senseless tragedy. My sympathies to the survivors and to the families of the deceased.
To all Federations citizens particularly the Intakis, let us reserve judgment while we wait patiently for all the facts to come in. If this turns out to be a deliberate hostile action then the perpetrators will pay for their crimes.
The Federation takes care of its own and this will be our finest hour.
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Siri Blue
Gallente Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2006.09.20 22:15:00 -
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We have not heard of ANY ROGUE Amarr Titans out there! So either the Amarr Empire QUICKLY makes a statement about that or we will assume that a Amarr Navy Titan attacked Reschard by activating its Doomsday Device in low orbit of the planet!
Here is my official statement (which accidentially went to the wrong forum)
I am deeply shocked by the fact that survivors had to wait SEVEN months before rescue teams came through to them! I would like to know if there is anything we can do to help them.
On another note...I am nearly as shocked, that an Amarr vessel did this and that it was capable of doing it in the first place! Titans appearently can be used as a weapon of genocide! Wiping out whole planetary populations, imagine such an attack on a core homeworld, it would cause BILLIONS of deaths! This is an inacceptable horror scenario! Titans have to be banned! The existing ones have to be scrapped and destroyed, all Blueprints of Titans and the weapons that caused this destruction have to be destroyed!!
Also, the Amarr will have to explain why one of THEIR vessels destroyed a Gallentean colony!
This is all for now.
I for one will begin forming an armed militia so when the politics fail, we will be prepared to take action.
Siri Blue
(P.S.: I'd love to get some more info via RP contacts from Aurora, just send me an evemail if you feel like it)
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Sepherim
Amarr Ordo Quaesitoris
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Posted - 2006.09.21 00:55:00 -
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Now, then. Of course we Amarr know of such capacities of the Titans from long ago. We're no new-comers to space, you know. And the reason that never happened before is that we don't use such stupid means. We don't bomb planets on the scale you do... except Minmatar, and those are little more than dogs, and even with them we haven't used a Titan in this way.
We don't destroy the universe, we conquer it and take you to Enlighten you. Still, it's a pity that the lesser races can't understand it.
Anyway, re-read the news and you'll notice that it sais a Titan of Amarrian style. It doesn't say an Amarrian Titan. Those are two very different things. We don't care enough for you to start such an operation, I'm sorry, but nor Gallente nor Intaki nor Caldari are the center of our existance. --------------------- One Empire, One Emperor, One Faith, One Amarr... A Whole Universe Under One rule. Keter of the Ordo Quaesitoris. |
Frezik
Celtic Anarchy Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.21 01:04:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Sepherim Now, then. Of course we Amarr know of such capacities of the Titans from long ago. We're no new-comers to space, you know. And the reason that never happened before is that we don't use such stupid means. We don't bomb planets on the scale you do... except Minmatar, and those are little more than dogs, and even with them we haven't used a Titan in this way.
"We killed you by the billions, but we didn't kill you that way."
Quote: One Empire, One Emperor, One Faith, One Amarr... A Whole Universe Under One rule.
Actually, it's Zero Emperor at the moment. Now if only we could do something about the rest of the Empire. ---- "Well in this case, he's being flamed, and rightly so, for whinning about a game mechanic that doesn't actually exist." -Lorth |
Siri Blue
Gallente Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2006.09.21 01:08:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Siri Blue We have not heard of ANY ROGUE Amarr Titans out there! So either the Amarr Empire QUICKLY makes a statement about that or we will assume that a Amarr Navy Titan attacked Reschard by activating its Doomsday Device in low orbit of the planet!
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Galactic Express The Guardian Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.21 11:23:00 -
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Anyone who reads his archives knows that moving a Titan into low orbit around a planet is dangerous enough. Letting off a Doomsday Device above a planet - madness. I cannot think who would be responsible for this inhuman act. Even my hatred of the Amarr doesn't blind me to logic - the Amarrian Empire would have nothing to gain from destroying the planet, so the Amarrian Titan must have been rogue.
That the Minmatars would do such a thing to their closest allies is unthinkable. The Caldari State's relations with us are strained but like the Amarr they have nothing to gain by starting a war with us. As for the Jovians, we know they have the power to destroy any army they come across - they would have no need to destroy an outlying world if they wanted war with the Federation.
Therefore I believe the blame must be placed with an independent faction. I know that the Syndiate, Serpentis or the Guristas would all have something to gain from a war - with attentions turned to front-line issues, their operations could extend further into secure territory - perhaps even into 1.0 space.
Point the blame not at each other, my friends, and start looking to the independent agressors outside our borders, for that is surely where the blame lies.
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Jon Engel
APEX Unlimited
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Posted - 2006.09.21 13:27:00 -
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You would put blame on the Syndicate for this? How moronic. What would the Syndicate have to gain from being involved in any war.
They fend off Gallente, Concord, Caldari, Amarr, Minmitar, Sansha, Blood Raider invasions on a daily basis. I doubt they have the resources to project power beyond that of there own territory.
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James Snowscoran
Caldari Coreli Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.21 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Anyone who reads his archives knows that moving a Titan into low orbit around a planet is dangerous enough. Letting off a Doomsday Device above a planet - madness. I cannot think who would be responsible for this inhuman act. Even my hatred of the Amarr doesn't blind me to logic - the Amarrian Empire would have nothing to gain from destroying the planet, so the Amarrian Titan must have been rogue.
That the Minmatars would do such a thing to their closest allies is unthinkable. The Caldari State's relations with us are strained but like the Amarr they have nothing to gain by starting a war with us. As for the Jovians, we know they have the power to destroy any army they come across - they would have no need to destroy an outlying world if they wanted war with the Federation.
Therefore I believe the blame must be placed with an independent faction. I know that the Syndiate, Serpentis or the Guristas would all have something to gain from a war - with attentions turned to front-line issues, their operations could extend further into secure territory - perhaps even into 1.0 space.
Point the blame not at each other, my friends, and start looking to the independent agressors outside our borders, for that is surely where the blame lies.
How dare you accuse Serpentis Corporation of such an atrocity. Something to gain from a war? Are you mad- do you think any sane corporate executive would order an atrocity like what happened at Reschard?
No, you gotta look towards the extremists- Sanshas, blood raiders, or the Amarr themselves. -----
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Siri Blue
Gallente Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2006.09.21 14:04:00 -
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There still has been no comment from the Amarr Empire! This is most disturbing!
What is even more disturbing is the fact that there currently are NO search and resue teams in orbit or on surface of Reschard V!
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Kaleigh Doyle
Rho Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.09.21 14:14:00 -
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Unfortunately, since the technology to build these doomsday weapons is available to the public, it's quite possible any extremist group with the resources and the will to build them can do so. While the Khanid Kingdom and the Amarr Empire should remain suspects in this incident, the blame cannot be placed solely on them without some confirmation. Frenzied accusations and pitchfork anger isn't going to resolve this mystery any hastier.
My heartfelt appreciation goes out to the Servant Sisters for their rescue effort of the survivors still located on Reschard.
xoxo
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Jalia Kovac
Placid Reborn Placid Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.21 14:40:00 -
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I'm thoroughly disgusted that the Federal administration has once again let the people of Placid down. Why has it taken seven months to launch a rescue mission and why has it been left to the Sisters to undertake? Why has there been no internal investigation, rather deferring to CONCORD and Mordu's Legion to pick up the threads?
The culture of neglect continues.
► ► Placid Reborn Headquarters ◄ ◄ |
Pezzle
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2006.09.21 14:55:00 -
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Siri Blue labors under some conception that the Empire must answer to a Gallente pilot making wild accusations.
This may come as a shock, but the Empire does not answer to her, or any other pilot who dreams up a conspiracy theory.
Much of the revealing information is missing from this 'report'. I am sure that Concord, or whatever other agency would have raised the issue with the Empire if they had any conclusive facts.
What DO we know? An Amarr design titan of unknown faction was reported to have been seen in low orbit. An energy discharge was reported, consistant with the Judgement weapon. The ship Jumped out to an unknown location, there were to many active fields to track it. We also know that the Designs for all titans have been available to anyone with money for some time.
Any serious investigator can come up with additional useful information, if you want to know, look into it yourself. Oh, and please keep your unfounded demands to yourself.
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Siri Blue
Gallente Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2006.09.21 14:57:00 -
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This is what an Amarr Pilot had to say about the incident:
We profited both ways. By the sale...and by the erradication of one of your planets. I say...all in all...we win both ways.
While any extremist group might have build a Titan by now due to the completely inacceptable fact that the empires sold the BPOs for these weapons of genocide, THIS ATTITUDE shared by more than only a few Amarrian Pilots is INSANE!
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Pezzle
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2006.09.21 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Siri Blue
more useless propaganda
Nice to know you care more about rabble rousing than facts, or the fate of a planet in the Federation.
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Siri Blue
Gallente Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2006.09.21 15:06:00 -
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I was so shocked about what that Amarrian pilot said, I had to post it...
As for the fate of the Planet...I have an employee in orbit monitoring the situation, feeding all data directly to me.
The system is deserted, no sign of a rescue team nor a Concord escort. Noone to be seen...
I stand ready to dispatch humanitarian aid any time, but appearently there is noone there who would request any.
I am quite puzzled as I assumed search and rescue operation on a whole planet would take several weeks.
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Irongut
M'8'S
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Posted - 2006.09.21 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
I suggest you learn to read better, and you'd notice he's speaking to one of your fellow Gallente who went and made the accusation. Or are you too busy with your drugs and *****s to learn how to read in the Federation?
Actually no, I think you are the one having reading comprehension problems. Let me explain it to you very carefully...
Rjak Teken'duis said "I find it very pecuilar that the Gallente put the making of an announcement of such monumental political and military significance into the hands of a two-bit mining corp and an archived communications log.". But in fact it was announced on the Gal-Net news (an official communications channel) before Steelhound, an independant pod pilot, resurected this comunique.
Then Rjak Teken'duis said "I should think that if the Gallente Federation actually had evidence substantiating the Amarr Empire of committing such an atrocity, they would do it via a governmental spokesperson, in a very public manner." But the Federation has not accused the Empire, in fact the investigation has been conducted by CONCORD, an independant body, and they stated that it was an Amarr designed titan but that they do not know who commanded it.
Nor did Steelhound accuse the Empire, he said "...caused by an Amarr Titan detonating a Doomsday Device in close proximity to the planet. Whoever it was jumped out of the system". So it was an Amarr designed Titan but notice that word "Whoever", it's an important one. It means we don't know who did it and it was not necessarily a ship from the Imperial Navy.
So in fact Rjak Teken'duis, like yourself, saw a Gallente say something and had the usual Caldari knee-jerk reaction of shouting him down without thinking first.
As for my drugs and my *****s the supply is plentiful and good, thanks. I've even been known to sell them to Caldari from time to time.
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Unuthiel
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.09.21 19:40:00 -
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Quote: So either the Amarr Empire QUICKLY makes a statement about that or we will assume that a Amarr Navy Titan attacked Reschard by activating its Doomsday Device in low orbit of the planet!
You are aware that the Khanid Royal Navy also possesses a Titan of that class (not that I think they are responsible)?
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.21 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Siri Blue This is what an Amarr Pilot had to say about the incident:
We profited both ways. By the sale...and by the erradication of one of your planets. I say...all in all...we win both ways.
While any extremist group might have build a Titan by now due to the completely inacceptable fact that the empires sold the BPOs for these weapons of genocide, THIS ATTITUDE shared by more than only a few Amarrian Pilots is INSANE!
Your cry for attention is equally insane.
Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath For 50, you can have my goat:P- Tirg |
Siri Blue
Gallente Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2006.09.21 21:05:00 -
[144]
Appearently this incident does need attention. I've been monitoring the situation in Reschard for a while...nothing...the Federal government didn't even give a statement...20 million people died down there, a whole planet lies in ashes and 2000 people had to suffer horribly for 7 months before being rescued. If this does not cry for attention, what else does?
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Bruno Bonner
Gallente Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2006.09.21 22:08:00 -
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Edited by: Bruno Bonner on 21/09/2006 22:09:47 Edited by: Bruno Bonner on 21/09/2006 22:08:57 We have been, as federation citizens, targets of a madman or an organization who wishes to spread terror. That is a fact.
Who is responsible, or why they chose an Amarr Titan as deliverer of chaos and destruction is unkown. Perhaps it is their intentions to cause mutual accusations and throw our two civilzations into turmoil.
Let not this be the cause of war. Let not this be the thing that fuels hate.
CONCORD might be the slowest most burecratic police force in the universe, but they are universally recognized as such. Let them do their work. I'm sure intelligence and military officers of all factions involved are searching for clues and pieces that can be put together and explain this atrocity and once they have enough info, someone will know what truly happened.
In the meantime i urge all federation citizens to focus and work towards the most important matter at hand, the re-construction of Reschard V.
We have the technology and manpower to terraform it again, restore its beauty, and provide a home to comeback for those who survived.
We need to address the Federation Senate and designate an overseer for such operations.
Regards Bruno ------
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Lightof God
Caldari Arcana Imperii Ltd.
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Posted - 2006.09.21 22:44:00 -
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Remember this ladies and gentelmen although the public release of titans is quite new and as are the weaponery used on those behemoths of annihalation. The acutal hull design for a titan has not changed for a great many years the jove titans are over 500 years old and undergoing constant upgrading.
As we know at one point Sansha's nation was on extremly freindly relations with the ammar empire due to the "creative" method of controling slaves that the mad genius Sansha developed.
Now who is to say at the height of the Ammar-Shansha relationship certan design specs were not trasnfered over to the nation for further upgrades and use by the forces of sansha's employ. It has been nigh 100 years since the true might of the nation was destroyed and the shell that remains now was reformed.
As we have recently seen there are new castes of slaves emerging and seeing that historacally there is almost no higher ideological inovation in the nation itself besides Sansha. Who is to say that in the vast space that was Sanshas Nation former domain with its rich recources and total lawlessness over a period of 100 years who is to say even in such a highly reduiced state that a titan with acouriments could not be constructed.
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Takitoo
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Posted - 2006.09.21 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cmdr Baxter Very suspicious remarks, in my opinion. We have a rogue Titan on the loose, and you wish the matter to be simply "swept under the rug"? I daresay that this is a matter that should be addressed posthaste.
Aye, Indeed. Posthaste, rather. Most dead person, relinquish the information you most assuredly have. For it was you, was it not ? Fiend !
I miss you, Arthurus ! ___________________________
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Sepherim
Amarr Ordo Quaesitoris
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Posted - 2006.09.21 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Siri Blue This is what an Amarr Pilot had to say about the incident: We profited both ways. By the sale...and by the erradication of one of your planets. I say...all in all...we win both ways. While any extremist group might have build a Titan by now due to the completely inacceptable fact that the empires sold the BPOs for these weapons of genocide, THIS ATTITUDE shared by more than only a few Amarrian Pilots is INSANE!
Since I was one of the pilots she mentions, and I haven't got anything to hide about it, I must say that "yes, some of us care little about all those dead". 20 million dead now go to Hell, just as they would in some years. Nothing changes. And you're not worthy of our pity, since you're not Chosen.
That said, it doesn't mean we did it. It's not our busyness, we got better things to do. --------------------- One Empire, One Emperor, One Faith, One Amarr... A Whole Universe Under One rule. Keter of the Ordo Quaesitoris. |
Sieesa
Amarr Liberated
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Posted - 2006.09.22 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: Siri Blue This is what an Amarr Pilot had to say about the incident:
We profited both ways. By the sale...and by the erradication of one of your planets. I say...all in all...we win both ways.
While any extremist group might have build a Titan by now due to the completely inacceptable fact that the empires sold the BPOs for these weapons of genocide, THIS ATTITUDE shared by more than only a few Amarrian Pilots is INSANE!
You should at least give me credit.... Those words were mine. I still think your an imbecile for everythign you said. Your governemnt sells their Titan BPO's just as much as the Empire does....so maybe you should ask them about how much they are profiting off of such things before you go in and accuse the Empire of being to blame....
Enjoy your self....Maybe you will be on the next planet....
<laughs>
Sieesa Morgan.
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Cmdr Baxter
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.22 05:28:00 -
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Edited by: Cmdr Baxter on 22/09/2006 05:33:09 Escape
- In the immediate aftermath of the attack, over 24 cynosural fields were activated in a variety of positions across the galaxy, foiling any and all attempts at tracking the unidentified vessel.
- This implies not only a great deal of technological sophistication (already known because of the class of vessel involved), but the resources to conduct this attack and get away scot-free.
- Because of the sheer amount of manpower involved with such an endeavour, I suspect that the involvement of a government in this attack can be ruled out.
(a) Governments, as a general rule, are prone to leaks, despite all their best efforts to the contrary, which means that people like to open their mouths and brag about things. Given the sheer size of the task force that would be needed, I find it highly illogical that every single person, with knowledge of this forthcoming attack, would keep their mouths shut.
(b) Furthermore, I believe that someone would have surely noted the presence of suspicious, government-related, activity in a remote system prior to the attack on Reschard V.
IRON Involvement?
- In the aftermath of the attack, a rescue mission to Reschard V was sabotaged, then attacked by units of the Imperial Republic of the North.
- Motives for this attack have not been established, and there has been little speculation regarding this point. What little has occurred has largely been condemnation of their actions, without looking at the larger picture.
- There has been no further announcements regarding whether an investigation is still ongoing into this attack. What little has been released regarding it indicates, to me, that the point has been largely neglected in the investigation. _________________________________
Disclaimer: This post in no way represents the policies of the current alliance or corporation that this pilot is a member of. |
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