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Thaddeus Eggeras
TwoTenX LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2013.11.08 01:56:00 -
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I have been wondering, how long have capsuleers been around in New Eden?
And EVE has been around for 10 years now, but is the same amount of time in New Eden, or is 10 years like 20 years in New Eden or 50 or 100?
Mostly I am wondering how time works in New Eden, if it's the same has real time, or is it different?
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Eli Green
The Arrow Project
763
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Posted - 2013.11.08 01:57:00 -
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https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Timeline |
Thaddeus Eggeras
TwoTenX LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2013.11.08 02:33:00 -
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Thanks Eli, that pretty much explains it. We are all only 10 year immortals or less haha |
Thaddeus Eggeras
TwoTenX LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2013.11.11 16:53:00 -
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No one else thinks it's odd how the time goes in EVE. 10 years = 10 years, shouldn't it be more like 10 years = 20 years or 30 years. How fast everything happens in the game, just seems like the should be a bit longer then it is. |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
827
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Posted - 2013.11.11 16:55:00 -
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One decade, and capsuleers have accomplished a ton. The Empires are losing their grasp.
The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
70220
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:14:00 -
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Time doesn't exist. You are only experiencing an infinite series of Configuration State changes. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9978
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:16:00 -
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YC115!
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Noriko Mai
1037
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:16:00 -
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Are you No Means No's alt? |
Thaddeus Eggeras
TwoTenX LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:31:00 -
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10 years Capsuleers have pretty much taken over null sec, a range of new ships have appeared, and now the Caspsuleers are going to take on the Empires, seens just a bit fast all in all. Probably should have the time line looked at a bit closer I'd say. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
8539
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:49:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:10 years Capsuleers have pretty much taken over null sec, a range of new ships have appeared, and now the Caspsuleers are going to take on the Empires, seens just a bit fast all in all. Probably should have the time line looked at a bit closer I'd say.
Not at all.
Things happen fast. |
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Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4462
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:50:00 -
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Es wird mit dem Summerton
Neunzehn - Uhr - Neunundvierzig Minuten - und - Null Sekunden.
....
Beep.
You know ... i never understood why the voice said "summer ton/buzzing sound", when it was a beep. A beep. Not even close to bzzzzzzz.
Oh well. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
7213
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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:09:00 -
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10 years ago, cellular phones weren't that prevalent in schools.
10 years later they've all but destroyed teenage spelling ability as we know it.
I couldn't imagine the sweeping changes that capsuleer technology would bring.... Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
stoicfaux
3337
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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:11:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:One decade, and capsuleers have accomplished a ton. The Empires are losing their grasp.
Foreshadowing: The Jove are a dying race and they're the ones who introduced capsuleer tech to the Empires.
Which means, that at one time the Jove were just like us (i.e. civilized,) then they created Jove capsuleeers, and then those immortal Jove capsuleers engaged in a prolonged orgy of mindless PvP and general asshattery which destroyed the Jove civilization (i.e. Jove high-sec) and thus the only Jove who survived were the biggest Jovian pricks in the galaxy who drove away everyone else, thus leaving Jove civilization to die a slow, lonely death.
tl;dr - the Jove are the surviving remnants of the Jove Goons after the Jove Goons completed the Blue Doughnut and conquered Jove's high-sec.
tl;dr^2 - history is cyclical.
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Icarus Able
Traverse Holdings Setting The Universe on Fire
161
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:09:00 -
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**** happens fast when youve got a ton of megalomaniacs running around who cant die. |
Thaddeus Eggeras
TwoTenX LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:15:00 -
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Might happen fast, but I don't think this fast. And 10 years being immortal, I don't think that makes us immortal. And taking on the Empires, ever try to fight Concord? If you haven't, go ahead and engage them, tel me how it turns out. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
517
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:37:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:Might happen fast, but I don't think this fast. And 10 years being immortal, I don't think that makes us immortal. And taking on the Empires, ever try to fight Concord? If you haven't, go ahead and engage them, tel me how it turns out.
Concord and the empires are not the same. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Eli Green
The Arrow Project
768
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:55:00 -
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If you take missions as canon for what the empire's fleets are like. They're screwed. wumbo |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
300
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Posted - 2013.11.12 01:37:00 -
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Any discussion with the word 'canon' in it is bound to eventually include cosplay and even ponies.
On a less sinister note, capsuleers are indestructible, but surely they age. Or do they wake up in a clone as old as when they started their career? This might sound like a minor quibble, but it goes to the nature of the human condition. Indestructible but mortal humans would still have the desperation that finity brings, limited time messes up any striving for truth, beauty or relevance. Indestructible AND immortal humans is a nonsensical phrase. Long term, the only thing that can concern such creatures is the unknown. So yeah, Jove tech has wrought massive change since it's advent. Do we live out a sensible span and diminish, or plague the heavens forever? I'm okay either way.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Thaddeus Eggeras
TwoTenX LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
68
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Posted - 2013.11.12 01:39:00 -
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Conocrd is the Empires police, so if Capsuleers mess with the Empires enough Conocrd will get invovled. Also if the Empires come together to deal with the Capsuleers, Capsuleers are something like .00001% of the population, while the Empires make up around 95% to 98% of the population. I think if the Capsuleers pushed too hard, it wouldn't go well. Also a good number of capsuleers would side with the Empires also. Also Capsuleers fight against each other more then they engage anyone else, so to have them come together would be one hell of an undertaken in it's self.
Also the Capsuleers aren't truely immortal, if you find where they have their clones, you can kill them, it only be a matter of time, if it really came to that. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5136
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Posted - 2013.11.12 01:51:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:One decade, and capsuleers have accomplished a ton. The Empires are losing their grasp.
Foreshadowing: The Jove are a dying race and they're the ones who introduced capsuleer tech to the Empires. Which means, that at one time the Jove were just like us (i.e. civilized,) then they created Jove capsuleeers, and then those immortal Jove capsuleers engaged in a prolonged orgy of mindless PvP and general asshattery which destroyed the Jove civilization (i.e. Jove high-sec) and thus the only Jove who survived were the biggest Jovian pricks in the galaxy who drove away everyone else, thus leaving Jove civilization to die a slow, lonely death. tl;dr - the Jove are the surviving remnants of the Jove Goons after the Jove Goons completed the Blue Doughnut and conquered Jove's high-sec. tl;dr^2 - history is cyclical. no jove concord i see There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5139
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Posted - 2013.11.12 01:52:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:Conocrd is the Empires police, so if Capsuleers mess with the Empires enough Conocrd will get invovled. Also if the Empires come together to deal with the Capsuleers, Capsuleers are something like .00001% of the population, while the Empires make up around 95% to 98% of the population. I think if the Capsuleers pushed too hard, it wouldn't go well. Also a good number of capsuleers would side with the Empires also. Also Capsuleers fight against each other more then they engage anyone else, so to have them come together would be one hell of an undertaken in it's self.
Also the Capsuleers aren't truely immortal, if you find where they have their clones, you can kill them, it only be a matter of time, if it really came to that. Think about all the rats that have been killed... There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
210
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Posted - 2013.11.12 05:29:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:Might happen fast, but I don't think this fast. And 10 years being immortal, I don't think that makes us immortal. And taking on the Empires, ever try to fight Concord? If you haven't, go ahead and engage them, tel me how it turns out.
CONCORD got a ship exploded at the Battle of Caldari Prime though. |
Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
508
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Posted - 2013.11.12 07:15:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:10 years Capsuleers have pretty much taken over null sec, a range of new ships have appeared, and now the Caspsuleers are going to take on the Empires, seens just a bit fast all in all. Probably should have the time line looked at a bit closer I'd say.
You are an immortal who controls spaceships as if it's your own with a direct to your brain in which skills are downloaded Matrix style.
Of course capsuleers only needed a decade to take on the Empires. It seems academic. AUT5M - Active HiSec/WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Inquire within. 5mSP minimum, full API required. |
Wooly Akachi
Capital Storm. JIHADASQUAD
13
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Posted - 2013.11.12 07:25:00 -
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10 Years for Capsuleers to have a strangle hold over new eden sounds about right. If we weren't try to blow the living crap out of each other and went full hog into trying to take over it would only really take a month or 2.
Non Capsule ships are totally out classed by us. and as for we being only 0.00001% of the population, it proberly more like 1 - 2% at least of space ship pilots. Concord seem to be the only real chalnage we have to face, which wouldn't be a problem the second you drop a CAP fleet on their asses. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5141
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Posted - 2013.11.12 07:55:00 -
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Wooly Akachi wrote:10 Years for Capsuleers to have a strangle hold over new eden sounds about right. If we weren't try to blow the living crap out of each other and went full hog into trying to take over it would only really take a month or 2.
Non Capsule ships are totally out classed by us. and as for we being only 0.00001% of the population, it proberly more like 1 - 2% at least of space ship pilots. Concord seem to be the only real chalnage we have to face, which wouldn't be a problem the second you drop a CAP fleet on their asses. Pilots of ship commanders. A titan "pilot" (with their nameless crew) has a ship that needs like 10,000 NPC spaceship people and need we remember that NPC ship will be really really bad in comparison.
Lol imagine ratting the titan spawns in caldari prime. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5141
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Posted - 2013.11.12 07:55:00 -
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I also recall no one gave the elite faction navies the "point before you web" talk we give newbies. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
298
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Posted - 2013.11.12 08:07:00 -
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To the guy who shot his mouth off about "You'll never beat CONCORD" there is actually a canonical precedent for CONCORD getting their asses kicked. Ever been to Yulai? A bunch of motherThukker Dreads showed up and kicked some motherThukker ass. The literally disabled CONCORD's response over all of Empire for a single hour, after which they withdrew.
To the folks who think that the small Capsuleer population would mean they would get wiped out by the much larger, human factions: Even if Capsuleers only ever used frigs (to mine, build, wage war, etc) that need MAYBE 1 NPC if that they could still kick the Empire's ass. Fleets of a thousand Rifters could assail the Empire 23.5/7. It would take mere minutes for the Capsuleers to reship, while the Empire couldn't replace the crews, commanders, etc nearly as fast. Maybe material, but not the crews.
On top of that, Capsuleer tech is so much damn better than human piloting that you need to desperately outnumber the capsuleers. Let's imagine that the average Level IV mission is a fleet fight between the Empires and Capsuleers. Or Level IV x4. Throw 100-200 Rifters at that and you'll have some seriously chewed up fleets on both sides. Upgrade that to a fleet of Slowcats, Drone Assist Domis, etc on the Capsuleer side....
Depending on what sources you read, non-Capsuleers are also supposed to go into stasis during warp, while Capsuleers can engage/disengage right up until/after the moment Warp begins. |
Thaddeus Eggeras
TwoTenX LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
69
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:09:00 -
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Also I'd have to say in the Empires felt that the Capsuleers were a big enoough threat, they could close their stations from Capsuleers, pull their clones from high sec and some low sec too. The Empires could make the lifes on Capsuleers very difficult all in all. And all the rats? Those are small fleets, not full armadas, with ALL 4 races coming together and Concord to stop one main threat. Also one Concord ship being killed at the battle of Caldari Prime, now remember Concord has many many ships, and on http://eve-kill.net/?a=home look who is the top killer everyday pretty much. And remember all the empires have their own Capulseers, and I'd think Concord had them also. If the Capsuleers ever became a true threat to the Empire they would just come together and wipe us out one clone bay at a time. Well unless they wait long enough to where becoming a Capsuleer isn't so rare and difficult, then they would be screwed. A war is coming, but right now I don't see the Capsuleers having the might to win said war. And after Thukker did the, Concord changed how they work, I'm pretty sure, so something like that couldn't happen again. And it never has. Non capsuleers I don't think go into stasis, warp just kinda blows for them is all, and thought they also made it so it wasn't as bad as before
All I'm saying is .00000% going against 95% to 98%, no matter how much more advanced wouldn't win, the Empires have Titans, they can use T2 ships, I'm guessing T3 too, yes a crew will slow them down but when it's 100 against 1, which is how the numbers would play out, the 1 doesn't win. Capsuleers are too few in number right now. |
Icarus Able
Traverse Holdings Setting The Universe on Fire
167
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Posted - 2013.11.12 16:37:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Any discussion with the word 'canon' in it is bound to eventually include cosplay and even ponies.
On a less sinister note, capsuleers are indestructible, but surely they age. Or do they wake up in a clone as old as when they started their career? This might sound like a minor quibble, but it goes to the nature of the human condition. Indestructible but mortal humans would still have the desperation that finity brings, limited time messes up any striving for truth, beauty or relevance. Indestructible AND immortal humans is a nonsensical phrase. Long term, the only thing that can concern such creatures is the unknown. So yeah, Jove tech has wrought massive change since it's advent. Do we live out a sensible span and diminish, or plague the heavens forever? I'm okay either way.
Pretty sure with cloning tech this advanced they could grow the clone to whatever age they choose,
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