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Gh0stBust3rs
Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.01.12 10:41:00 -
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Dkamanus wrote:I really hope Dust doesn't become a Bust, mostly because of the potential it has. Granted, having it on PS3 only was a bad idea, if they wanted to cater the FPS community, they should have gone PC all the way (and they wouldn't lose EVE players, mostly because EVE players like ships). I believe the development will actually garner fruit, mostly because I'm starting to feel that the game will be going to the PC, integrated in some form directly in the EVE (which would give em more subs, who knows).
In a worst case scenario, SteamOS will bring it hopefully. Considering it a bust with one year only isn't gonna make things better.
You really arent that bright?
There are about 80 million sold PS3s through out the world. Think about that. Even 10% of those numbers played dust that is double the active eve subscriptions.
I can tell you for a fact there is no PC game that would ever get close to those numbers. Do you realize how many other games eve players already play? We have lol tournaments play FPSes together play other MMOs. On the PC it would have been panned and ignored almost instantly. |
RomeStar
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.05 21:14:00 -
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Dust still sucks Signatured removed, CCP Phantom |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2014.02.06 20:41:00 -
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RomeStar wrote:Dust still sucks
So? There are a lot of movies that suck, but they made millions upon millions in profit.
The point again is simple, ccp is a small company. Its not EA, Sony, or Nintendo, where a loss on one game can easily be written off from the profit of another.
If dust goes down badly, it can hurt ALL of ccp, which means cuts to eve. The oposit is true as well, if dust makes money, it will help boost eve.
Anyway, what do you think sucks about it? And why not try and fix it? Otherwise there is an old saying that goes "If you don't like where you live, then move." "If you don't like whats on tv, change the channel." and "If you don't like a game then don't fing play it" |
Crasniya
Strange Energy Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2014.02.13 15:09:00 -
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Ugh Reset wrote:agreed, I can't believe no new content is coming out this this year since they bet the farm on Dust. who are these investors? that would be Sony and anyone having enough fun on dust who chooses to buy AUR.
No content is coming out this year in EVE because CCP is still scared of players Incarna 2.0ing. That's the direction development needs to be working on, but veteran players are butthurt about it, and so CCP's not willing to make big things for EVE anymore.
EVE has only itself to blame. |
Katie Khardoula
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.14 09:34:00 -
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Alright...I don't play Dust, and I don't want to. I'm an Eve player through and through because I like what Eve has to offer - Spaceships, complex mechanics, interaction with other RL people to a certain extent, etc etc. In other words, stuff that no other game, and no other game developer has been able to offer. Ever.
Now, seeing that I don't play Dust, i'm really in no position to comment but i'm going to anyway. At this current time, it seems to me like Dust is a bit of a letdown considering what it was originally envisioned to be. HOWEVER, I also acknowledge the fact that Eve, though I haven't played it since the beginning and don't know first-hand, took some time to really lift off the ground. I believe that Dust is no different.
CCP has accomplished things that no other developer in the world has. How about you guys have a little faith in the company that has kept you a loyal customer for the last 10 years rather than continue to ***** and complain about every little thing you don't like?
I have a seriously hard time believing that CCP has invested so heavily and so blindly into Dust that, if it were to fail, it would mean significant repercussions to the Eve community.
You think that if they've got market analysts working for them to control something like the Eve economy that they maybe, just maybe have a more realistic business model than "Invest ALLLLL the money!!!!" CCP has created a legacy over the last 10 years and they're too smart to put all their eggs in the Dust basket.
Smarten up.
Every time I see the first poster replying to the OP by quoting his entire post, I want to punch a baby |
Lucy tzung
Deep Strike Mining Divison
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Posted - 2014.02.17 03:30:00 -
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started on Dust and love it, awesome game, spend money buying Aur now and again, would never of tried EvE if it wasn't for the pilots i had met there. CCP might be new to FPS but unreal tech isn't. free game that's great to play will always attract but what makes it stand out more than any console game? updates, not sequels but updates that expand play are rare on consoles, yea you can buy map packs on COD ect but on Dust most stuff is free and earnable in game. bust? no it makes money and works, maybe not all the time but when it does its epic for a freebie. people say just like EvE Dust also has a long term plan. Will we be able to drop merc's in stations to wipe out jita scammers? or board ships, deactivate auto-destruct and pop pilots in there own vessels? who knows? but where ever this game goes with EvE im guessing it will always bring as much hate as it does joy.
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Dextrome Thorphan
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.20 11:10:00 -
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Lucy tzung wrote:started on Dust and love it, awesome game, spend money buying Aur now and again, would never of tried EvE if it wasn't for the pilots i had met there. CCP might be new to FPS but unreal tech isn't. free game that's great to play will always attract but what makes it stand out more than any console game? updates, not sequels but updates that expand play are rare on consoles, yea you can buy map packs on COD ect but on Dust most stuff is free and earnable in game. bust? no it makes money and works, maybe not all the time but when it does its epic for a freebie. people say just like EvE Dust also has a long term plan. Will we be able to drop merc's in stations to wipe out jita scammers? or board ships, deactivate auto-destruct and pop pilots in there own vessels? who knows? but where ever this game goes with EvE im guessing it will always bring as much hate as it does joy.
except it's not really free at all... unless you like being the cannon fodder. |
Crasniya
Strange Energy Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2014.02.20 15:32:00 -
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Dextrome Thorphan wrote:except it's not really free at all... unless you like being the cannon fodder.
Actually, false. Sure, AUR gets you the high end stuff sooner, but right now, time-to-kill is a bit messed up, and you pretty much insta-die no matter what gear you have. The basic stuff you start with: Good enough. |
Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:09:00 -
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RomeStar wrote:If you were an investor and decided to finance a new never before seen concept of a game by a company who produced a one of a kind space mmorpg wouldnt you be alittle upset at the results of Dust 514?
Would you invest more capital if they came back and said we need a couple of more years because hey look at EVE it took a few years to get that game off the ground and working properly?
Who are these investors that financed Dust because I want to hang around them more since they are just throwing their money away on anything that catches their eye?
For those of you that say "Its none of your business what CCP does with their money" I say to you "yes thats true but as eve players we would like to see EVE grow and not be burdened by a turd that wont flush.
To those investors who dont read the EVEO Dust forums anyways thanks for financing the new EA's guys new homes and cars they really needed it.
I know a guy who bought 5 (100USD)merc packs before the game released>he then bought 4 more(80 USD) Then bought the DREN pack (100 USD) then they came out with Omega boosters at 30 dollars a piece(180 USD).He bought 6 of those.That lasted till they came out again, and he bought 6 more (180 USD)He also has a EVE sub which he might cancel and bought the 2nd Decade Collectors edition (150 USD not including shipping)
You can thank him for Rubicon
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DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:11:00 -
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RomeStar wrote:If you were an investor and decided to finance a new never before seen concept of a game by a company who produced a one of a kind space mmorpg wouldnt you be alittle upset at the results of Dust 514?
Would you invest more capital if they came back and said we need a couple of more years because hey look at EVE it took a few years to get that game off the ground and working properly?
Who are these investors that financed Dust because I want to hang around them more since they are just throwing their money away on anything that catches their eye?
For those of you that say "Its none of your business what CCP does with their money" I say to you "yes thats true but as eve players we would like to see EVE grow and not be burdened by a turd that wont flush.
To those investors who dont read the EVEO Dust forums anyways thanks for financing the new EA's guys new homes and cars they really needed it.
I noticed something that I missed the first time I read your post, so i'll address a few things:
1) CCP may have used profits to make dust, not nessicarily investor money, but as I told you already, if you are not an investor, then you don't know what kind of money ccp is making, as they are not publicly traded, and don't need to tell you or anyone that doesn't matter how much they make and spend.
And the second thing, that the hell is with all the hate towards ex EA guys. You do realize that just because someone worked for a company that did things you don't like, doesn't mean that guy is going to bring thouse same things to the new company. People change jobs and get snagged from other companies all the time. Either because they are just damn good at there jobs, have experience, was the best person who applied, or the new company is going to implement something that the old company was doing so they need the people who know how to do it. Does that mean ccp will become EA 2.0 and just try to eat your wallet while giving you a crap product? No. Just because they hired an EA guy to head a divison doenslt mean squat. That like freaking out because mcdonalds hires a burger king vice president to head up a new divison. It doesn't mean mcdonalds will suddenly become burger king. The idiocy and the hate towards a few people who came to ccp from a different company is ridiculous.
CCP made a game that utilize micro transactions, this is the current new model in gaming. The would need to hire people who have experience in this field, as clearly when CCP tried it themselves with WiS they ****** up. So you hire someone who knows what they are doing, and you regin in craziness. Dust was designed to use micro trasnactions, that's how it makes its money. Does this mean it will have this huge shift in Valkaryie or EvE? no. We saw what happened when ccp tried to run with the microtranactions on there own, do you really think they will make that mistake again? Unlike EA, which is HUGE ccp can not afford to **** off a huge section of there base, without the eve players, they have nothing. Dust might be able to pull enugh to sustain itself but at this time, where eve goes, so goes ccp. |
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Nyla Skin
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.23 23:19:00 -
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Souxie Alduin wrote:[quote=Gerald Sphinx] Then why, oh why did they decide to make one?
Life is full of mysteries.
In after the lock :P -á - CCP Falcon www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies |
Lucy tzung
Deep Strike Mining Divison
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:09:00 -
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Dextrome Thorphan wrote:Lucy tzung wrote:started on Dust and love it, awesome game, spend money buying Aur now and again, would never of tried EvE if it wasn't for the pilots i had met there. CCP might be new to FPS but unreal tech isn't. free game that's great to play will always attract but what makes it stand out more than any console game? updates, not sequels but updates that expand play are rare on consoles, yea you can buy map packs on COD ect but on Dust most stuff is free and earnable in game. bust? no it makes money and works, maybe not all the time but when it does its epic for a freebie. people say just like EvE Dust also has a long term plan. Will we be able to drop merc's in stations to wipe out jita scammers? or board ships, deactivate auto-destruct and pop pilots in there own vessels? who knows? but where ever this game goes with EvE im guessing it will always bring as much hate as it does joy.
except it's not really free at all... unless you like being the cannon fodder. not really, I buy aur mainly because I can but I still mainly use what im skilled for. if you feel you really need to by aur to get good suits and mods to win then I think your either going against better players or you need to change your game plan. some of the greatest games ive had on Dust ive mainly been wiped out continuously. Devs vs dust was a crazy event |
RomeStar
Empire Investments Logistics
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Posted - 2014.03.05 16:24:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:Cypherdog wrote:DaReaper wrote: For if dust goes under, CCP itself very well could.
I doubt that. CCP has a very strong foundation with EVE. The DUST debacle scratched it's pride a little, but they can cope for the time being. I'd be embarrassed to show it on E3. Tell ANYONE who works in the industry that DUST is good but misunderstood and all it need is time. You'll be rebuffed. The EVE tree can survive without that DUST branch. that depends on how much money was thrown into dust. if they made a huge bet/gamble and it fails.... I don't see it as a failure, hell I don't like fps, but i'll go do a few rounds in dust and get my butt kicked. its fun though, but that's me I guess
If white knighting dust makes you feel better for spending RL cash on a game whos shelf life is limited then by all means talk it up but the truth will always prevail. The truth is Dust is Bust, has a nice little ring to it doesnt it. Signatured removed, CCP Phantom |
Christy D Floyd
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:49:00 -
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Scary how this prediction came true. Money is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons. |
Vayn Dravix
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:41:00 -
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As much as I hate it you were right Rome.... now its time for me to grab what's left of my social life and rebuild it. |
Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
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Posted - 2014.05.03 10:46:00 -
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If you were a new Customer and looked at CCPgames track record of the past years, it would be up to YOU to be a better customer when CCP can not be a better company, so YOU will have to vote with your Wallet Eve rule no.1: The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans.
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Christy D Floyd
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:12:00 -
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Captain Ravanor Eistiras wrote:if it was on the P,C you'd be blasting it like you do eve It will be on the pc soon bust514 Money is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons. |
Gerald Sphinx
The Irukandji Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:35:00 -
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Christy D Floyd wrote:Captain Ravanor Eistiras wrote:if it was on the P,C you'd be blasting it like you do eve It will be on the pc soon bust514
CCP moved Dust over to the PC so we can criticize it like we do with Eve. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:47:00 -
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Constructive criticism is always welcome. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues.
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Archibald Liberty Killmore
Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:27:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:Constructive criticism is always welcome.
Constructive Criticism is Pointless!
See what I did here! |
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