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Agent Kailethre
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
21
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:25:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:Can we PLEASE go a few weeks without some self proclaimed CCP scandal? Thanks... Self proclaimed? How about fully documented? Self proclaimed. From CCP's point of view: "Wow, this guy got scammed good. What an idiot. Let's just give the moron his SP back as a one time favor, no harm done." From the entitled forum trolls' point of view: "FAVORITISM! CCP is giving out free SP to random players! SCANDAL! T20 all over again! This player now has a MAJOR advantage! OH THE HORROR! Biomassragequitunsubcan'thavemystuffgoodbye!" For the love of god stop blowing **** way out of proportion. At the very worst CCP took pity on a player who was so ******** that he let himself get podded over 50 times and gave him his SP back. Big whoop. If this is what constitutes a scandal these days we're in deep sh*t.
Wow, this idiot just got scammed and lost a bunch of SP. Let's just interfere in our player driven game where we actively encourage this kind of activity.
It was his fault and it should be his responsibility to retrain or cease playing. CCP should not be interfering. |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate WHY so Seri0Us
2431
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:25:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Self proclaimed.
From CCP's point of view:
"Wow, this guy got scammed good. What an idiot. Let's just give the moron his SP back as a one time favor, no harm done."
From the entitled forum trolls' point of view:
"FAVORITISM! CCP is giving out free SP to random players! SCANDAL! T20 all over again! This player now has a MAJOR advantage! OH THE HORROR! Biomassragequitunsubcan'thavemystuffgoodbye!"
For the love of god stop blowing **** way out of proportion. At the very worst CCP took pity on a player who was so ******** that he let himself get podded over 50 times and gave him his SP back. Big whoop. If this is what constitutes a scandal these days we're in deep sh*t.
Short response: CCP used to believe in a "cold harsh universe".
Long response: 17mil SP is a lot of PLEX in gametime. Most everyone would have to train that time to get that SP back. Should everyone who loses SP be given it back because they were too stupid to renew their clone? |
Lekgoa
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
11
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:26:00 -
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Dear CCP, I may or may not have a brother, who may or may not have had access to my account for the past year. I do not like the skills I have acquired during that time period, and I blame my brother because it's hypothetically possible that he is the one who trained those skills. I am not willing to provide any evidence to that effect, but please reimburse all 20 million SP anyway. Otherwise I might be very angry and may or may not stop playing this game forever.
Sincerely, Lekgoa |
Frying Doom
3294
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:27:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:Can we PLEASE go a few weeks without some self proclaimed CCP scandal? Thanks... Self proclaimed? How about fully documented? Self proclaimed. From CCP's point of view: "Wow, this guy got scammed good. What an idiot. Let's just give the moron his SP back as a one time favor, no harm done." From the entitled forum trolls' point of view: "FAVORITISM! CCP is giving out free SP to random players! SCANDAL! T20 all over again! This player now has a MAJOR advantage! OH THE HORROR! Biomassragequitunsubcan'thavemystuffgoodbye!" For the love of god stop blowing **** way out of proportion. At the very worst CCP took pity on a player who was so ******** that he let himself get podded over 50 times and gave him his SP back. Big whoop. If this is what constitutes a scandal these days we're in deep sh*t. Isn't that roughly what you said about the whole Somer thing?
Shame you were not around for the T20 scandal, I am sure you could have told people that it was fine, that there was nothing to worry about and that they should just pretend it never happened. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
564
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:27:00 -
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Agent Kailethre wrote: If we don't show up and yell at CCP that they're doing something wrong, then how will they ever know they've done wrong? We need to let them know, or let the game slowly begin to wither and die.
Alright, lets pretend your rearing a child. Do you yell at them for every little trivial mistake they make? No, you quietly correct them and only yell at them for the big mistakes, because those lessons really matter and need to stick. If you yell at them for every little thing, each day, every day they become accustomed to your yelling. It becomes background noise, they ignore it.
We just had massive fcking forum shtstorms regarding gold magnates, massive favoritism, and RMT on the eve of the release of Rubicon. Also some EULA stuff too. That stuff was kinda important.
This stuff? Peanuts. So some fool that got scammed (or otherwise convinced to give over his API to erotica) got some SP. So what? Oh noes, he'll have a better refine rate or t2 minning crystals or whatever.
Small time, barely affecting one player, in a game with problems that affect thousands. This triviality isn't worth it. |
Kate stark
839
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:31:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Agent Kailethre wrote: If we don't show up and yell at CCP that they're doing something wrong, then how will they ever know they've done wrong? We need to let them know, or let the game slowly begin to wither and die.
Alright, lets pretend your rearing a child. Do you yell at them for every little trivial mistake they make? No, you quietly correct them and only yell at them for the big mistakes, because those lessons really matter and need to stick. If you yell at them for every little thing, each day, every day they become accustomed to your yelling. It becomes background noise, they ignore it. We just had massive fcking forum shtstorms regarding gold magnates, massive favoritism, and RMT on the eve of the release of Rubicon. Also some EULA stuff too. That stuff was kinda important. This stuff? Peanuts. So some fool that got scammed (or otherwise convinced to give over his API to erotica) got some SP. So what? Oh noes, he'll have a better refine rate or t2 minning crystals or whatever. Small time, barely affecting one player, in a game with problems that affect thousands. This triviality isn't worth it.
you're right, that stuff was important. it's a shame CCP decided to not give a ****, provide 0 worthwhile response, and have ignored the issue for the last 3 weeks.
maybe if we point out they are systematically and repeatedly ******* up, they might realise we have legitimate concerns. |
KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
562
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:32:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:Can we PLEASE go a few weeks without some self proclaimed CCP scandal? Thanks... Self proclaimed? How about fully documented? Self proclaimed. From CCP's point of view: "Wow, this guy got scammed good. What an idiot. Let's just give the moron his SP back as a one time favor, no harm done." From the entitled forum trolls' point of view: "FAVORITISM! CCP is giving out free SP to random players! SCANDAL! T20 all over again! This player now has a MAJOR advantage! OH THE HORROR! Biomassragequitunsubcan'thavemystuffgoodbye!" For the love of god stop blowing **** way out of proportion. At the very worst CCP took pity on a player who was so ******** that he let himself get podded over 50 times and gave him his SP back. Big whoop. If this is what constitutes a scandal these days we're in deep sh*t.
81 pods. If you are going to sperg all over the forums, at least get facts right.
Thanks.
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Zions Child
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
490
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:33:00 -
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In this thread: everything delivers. Darius Johnson delivers like Jimmy Johns.
10/10, would read again. |
Winchester Steele
194
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:35:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Dream Kim wrote:Explain where any harassment took place.
I'll wait. :)
You making me reply to this thread is harassment enough. Talk is cheap though. Bleak Lands. Kourmonen. I'm based there. If you 'content creators' would like to further assist 'content creashuns' and silence a horrible pro-bot aspirant loser, please. Come hither. And before you rebut with "why don't you come after us, silly carebear coward," CONCORD said I'm not allowed to. But hey plenty of content to create down here! Come on down!
You're such a ******* try-hard. I utterly despise every single word you have ever posted.
Your killboard is utter **** by the way, so I am really not sure what's up with the Pixel Hardman routine (as is mine, but at least I'm not an epeen waving dbag.)
There are pilots in the New Order who would chew you up and spit you out, not that any of them could be bothered trying to chase down an irrelevant failure such as yourself.
Proveldtariat? How's that working out for you?
Maybe you are just angry that James 315 made you his *****?
Whatever the answer, I only have one more thing to say to you.
Get out.
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Agent Kailethre
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
27
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:36:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Agent Kailethre wrote: If we don't show up and yell at CCP that they're doing something wrong, then how will they ever know they've done wrong? We need to let them know, or let the game slowly begin to wither and die.
Alright, lets pretend your rearing a child. Do you yell at them for every little trivial mistake they make? No, you quietly correct them and only yell at them for the big mistakes, because those lessons really matter and need to stick. If you yell at them for every little thing, each day, every day they become accustomed to your yelling. It becomes background noise, they ignore it. We just had massive fcking forum shtstorms regarding gold magnates, massive favoritism, and RMT on the eve of the release of Rubicon. Also some EULA stuff too. That stuff was kinda important. This stuff? Peanuts. So some fool that got scammed (or otherwise convinced to give over his API to erotica) got some SP. So what? Oh noes, he'll have a better refine rate or t2 minning crystals or whatever. Small time, barely affecting one player, in a game with problems that affect thousands. This triviality isn't worth it.
It is worth it, because this has the potential to become the slippery slope that ruins the player driven universe, and one of the primary pulls of EVE.
While, yes, there are more important and bigger and more publicised problems happening, this does not mean we can just ignore all the small ones that might slip through the cracks.
We need to find the problems, the root of it, and stamp it out as fast as possible. |
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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
564
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:37:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Agent Kailethre wrote: If we don't show up and yell at CCP that they're doing something wrong, then how will they ever know they've done wrong? We need to let them know, or let the game slowly begin to wither and die.
Alright, lets pretend your rearing a child. Do you yell at them for every little trivial mistake they make? No, you quietly correct them and only yell at them for the big mistakes, because those lessons really matter and need to stick. If you yell at them for every little thing, each day, every day they become accustomed to your yelling. It becomes background noise, they ignore it. We just had massive fcking forum shtstorms regarding gold magnates, massive favoritism, and RMT on the eve of the release of Rubicon. Also some EULA stuff too. That stuff was kinda important. This stuff? Peanuts. So some fool that got scammed (or otherwise convinced to give over his API to erotica) got some SP. So what? Oh noes, he'll have a better refine rate or t2 minning crystals or whatever. Small time, barely affecting one player, in a game with problems that affect thousands. This triviality isn't worth it. you're right, that stuff was important. it's a shame CCP decided to not give a ****, provide 0 worthwhile response, and have ignored the issue for the last 3 weeks. maybe if we point out they are systematically and repeatedly ******* up, they might realise we have legitimate concerns. The gold magnates were stopped. The RMT was closed down ....slowly (oh, and ccp, fck you for giving somer 10 days to cash out their RMT op). The massive favoritism happened, but we made a huge stink and it may be a while before it happens again.
The forums do have some small influence. It's not worth expending it on some worthless triviality just so Erotica has higher visibility before his run for CSM. |
Imiarr Timshae
Funny Men In Funny Hats
92
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:38:00 -
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My uncles ghost accessed my account and failed to train when I asked him to for two months during 2009... can I get my lost SP back? |
dexington
Dexington Corporation
861
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:39:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote: I requested CCP speak to me before taking any action, but I did not receive a response.
Nobody likes whiny snitches, not really surprising they didn't want to talk to you. |
dexington
Dexington Corporation
861
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:40:00 -
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Imiarr Timshae wrote:My uncles ghost accessed my account and failed to train when I asked him to for two months during 2009... can I get my lost SP back?
You didn't lose any sp, you never got them... |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate WHY so Seri0Us
2440
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:40:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:The gold magnates were stopped. The RMT was closed down ....slowly (oh, and ccp, fck you for giving somer 10 days to cash out their RMT op). The massive favoritism happened, but we made a huge stink and it may be a while before it happens again.
The forums do have some small influence. It's not worth expending it on some worthless triviality just so Erotica has higher visibility before his run for CSM.
You're right, let's ignore the precedent being set down here. Players of EVE! It is of no importance that you are no longer responsible for your own stupidity! Go about your business as usual. |
Mekkimaru
Abraxsys Get Off My Lawn
27
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:41:00 -
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this thread
also is it opposite day? i expect carebear/bonus room tears, not legitimate business ceo + supporters tears
CCP did something wrong (again)....shocker, it isnt as bad as something like somer (unless you know, +x number of people have been getting free SP from CCP, in which case i have a problem because i wasnt one of them)
CCP free sp pls |
Agent Kailethre
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
27
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:42:00 -
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dexington wrote:Imiarr Timshae wrote:My uncles ghost accessed my account and failed to train when I asked him to for two months during 2009... can I get my lost SP back? You didn't lose any sp, you never got them...
he lost potential SP. |
Kate stark
842
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:42:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:The gold magnates were stopped. The RMT was closed down ....slowly (oh, and ccp, fck you for giving somer 10 days to cash out their RMT op). The massive favoritism happened, but we made a huge stink and it may be a while before it happens again.
The forums do have some small influence. It's not worth expending it on some worthless triviality just so Erotica has higher visibility before his run for CSM.
RMT was never an issue we cared about. except CCP moving goalposts because "RMT" got popular. that was more favouritism again. allowing one group of players to do something until they all do it.
favouritism, the issue that has yet to be addressed, which is pretty much the same issue here. taking one subset of players and treating them differently to the rest of the playerbase.
CCP are simply inconsistent in it's enforcement of the rules. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
564
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:43:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:The gold magnates were stopped. The RMT was closed down ....slowly (oh, and ccp, fck you for giving somer 10 days to cash out their RMT op). The massive favoritism happened, but we made a huge stink and it may be a while before it happens again.
The forums do have some small influence. It's not worth expending it on some worthless triviality just so Erotica has higher visibility before his run for CSM. You're right, let's ignore the precedent being set down here. Players of EVE! It is of no importance that you are no longer responsible for your own stupidity! Go about your business as usual. Honestly, if you think CCP follows precedents, you haven't been paying attention. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow C.L.O.N.E.
1315
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:45:00 -
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Agent Kailethre wrote:dexington wrote:Imiarr Timshae wrote:My uncles ghost accessed my account and failed to train when I asked him to for two months during 2009... can I get my lost SP back? You didn't lose any sp, you never got them... he lost potential SP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vfa6HXsccE |
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Frying Doom
3298
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:47:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:ElQuirko wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:The gold magnates were stopped. The RMT was closed down ....slowly (oh, and ccp, fck you for giving somer 10 days to cash out their RMT op). The massive favoritism happened, but we made a huge stink and it may be a while before it happens again.
The forums do have some small influence. It's not worth expending it on some worthless triviality just so Erotica has higher visibility before his run for CSM. You're right, let's ignore the precedent being set down here. Players of EVE! It is of no importance that you are no longer responsible for your own stupidity! Go about your business as usual. Honestly, if you think CCP follows precedents, you haven't been paying attention. Your absolutely right.
CCP does not follow precedents, it just ignores it own EULA and rewards some players on a whim while banning others for exactly the same EULA breaches.
Makes a player driven sandbox mean so much more. |
dexington
Dexington Corporation
862
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:48:00 -
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Agent Kailethre wrote:dexington wrote:Imiarr Timshae wrote:My uncles ghost accessed my account and failed to train when I asked him to for two months during 2009... can I get my lost SP back? You didn't lose any sp, you never got them... he lost potential SP.
If you play then lottery and don't have winning combination, you don't lose millions of dollars. |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate WHY so Seri0Us
2443
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:49:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:ElQuirko wrote:You're right, let's ignore the precedent being set down here. Players of EVE! It is of no importance that you are no longer responsible for your own stupidity! Go about your business as usual. Honestly, if you think CCP follows precedents, you haven't been paying attention. They'll follow whatever precedent gives them justification to appeal to the demographic that brings in the most money. They seem to be swinging towards stealing WoW's players at this point. |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
22298
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:50:00 -
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Uh, another "revelation"! ...part agitation and part shameless self promotion... funny as always. Still, all you self styled celebrities get a little tiresome.
...face it Ero, it's CCPs game, and they do whatever they want with it/in it and around it. You're opinion is just as "important" to them as ours. Even the CSM can only make suggestions, and CCP is well within their rights to pay them no heed.
It's only a game, and if it's no longer worth the money for you (that's a general YOU), biomass and move on. |
Agent Kailethre
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
29
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:51:00 -
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dexington wrote:Agent Kailethre wrote:dexington wrote:Imiarr Timshae wrote:My uncles ghost accessed my account and failed to train when I asked him to for two months during 2009... can I get my lost SP back? You didn't lose any sp, you never got them... he lost potential SP. If you play then lottery and don't have winning combination, you don't lose millions of dollars.
You gain SP every second of every day. There is no chance of not getting it, or getting a lot of it. A lottery is entirely random chance. |
Frying Doom
3298
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:51:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:...face it Ero, it's CCPs game, and they do whatever they want with it/in it and around it. Then maybe they should add that to the EULA, see how well that goes for them |
Mioelnir
Cataclysm Enterprises Easily Offended
179
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:54:00 -
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While I don't necessarily agree with the SP return, especially if it was in unallocated SP that can be put into something different (don't know, was it?); I honestly can't remember CCP enforcing account sharing between spouses and actual, living together family; all the way back to 2007 when I started playing.
In fact both accounts could be paid by the parents over the same billing information, and the EULA contained an explicit exception for that last time I read it - a few years back I admit. |
dexington
Dexington Corporation
862
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:54:00 -
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Agent Kailethre wrote:You gain SP every second of every day. There is no chance of not getting it, or getting a lot of it. A lottery is entirely random chance.
It's the same thing, you can't claim to lose something you never had in the first place. |
Hra Neuvosto
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
161
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:55:00 -
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Absolutely disgusting CCP |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
565
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:55:00 -
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Kate stark wrote: CCP are simply inconsistent in it's enforcement of the rules.
Tell me something, do you think an organization that is "inconsistent in it's enforcement of the rules" will somehow change its inconsistency based off of one trivially insignificantly case? Do you honestly think that such an inconsistent organization uses such trivial events as precedents for later action?
CCP doesn't follow precedent, never has. Don't believe me? They flip-flop on whether a dozen decloak cans on a gate is either allowed or a bannable repeat offense on an almost weekly basis. CCP does not follow precedent on anything. If they did, they would never have given out rare blueprints again after T20. |
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