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Radax Glenn
Chill Cabal Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 21:52:00 -
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Are there any details published yet, from any pilots which made it to either of the two event systems?
I'm curious to learn what the explosion was? We're anymore details learned once in system?
There was a lot of speculation that this was going to be an intro to the Ghost Sites, but I've heard nothing concrete. Was the speculation accurate, or was this something entirely new? From what I've heard bits and pieces of, it sounds like more NPC's may now be represented as capsuleers themselves. Is this accurate? The hub-ub also made mention to "leave wreckage for the navies", so they could "investigate". Did anyone get a look at said wreckage, and if so, what was learned?
I am very curious as to what was learned yesterday.
If this info is located elsewhere on the forums or interwebs, please provide linkys...
Thanks in advance...
Radax |
epicurus ataraxia
Broken Wheel Mercantile and Trading Company Illusion of Solitude
141
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Posted - 2013.11.08 21:55:00 -
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Radax Glenn wrote:Are there any details published yet, from any pilots which made it to either of the two event systems?
I'm curious to learn what the explosion was? We're anymore details learned once in system?
There was a lot of speculation that this was going to be an intro to the Ghost Sites, but I've heard nothing concrete. Was the speculation accurate, or was this something entirely new? From what I've heard bits and pieces of, it sounds like more NPC's may now be represented as capsuleers themselves. Is this accurate? The hub-ub also made mention to "leave wreckage for the navies", so they could "investigate". Did anyone get a look at said wreckage, and if so, what was learned?
I am very curious as to what was learned yesterday.
If this info is located elsewhere on the forums or interwebs, please provide linkys...
Thanks in advance...
Radax
The explosion was the sound of trust forever disappearing, Due to the Playerbase being CCPd |
Optimus Junkis
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.11.08 21:55:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Radax Glenn wrote:Are there any details published yet, from any pilots which made it to either of the two event systems?
I'm curious to learn what the explosion was? We're anymore details learned once in system?
There was a lot of speculation that this was going to be an intro to the Ghost Sites, but I've heard nothing concrete. Was the speculation accurate, or was this something entirely new? From what I've heard bits and pieces of, it sounds like more NPC's may now be represented as capsuleers themselves. Is this accurate? The hub-ub also made mention to "leave wreckage for the navies", so they could "investigate". Did anyone get a look at said wreckage, and if so, what was learned?
I am very curious as to what was learned yesterday.
If this info is located elsewhere on the forums or interwebs, please provide linkys...
Thanks in advance...
Radax The explosion was the sound of trust forever disappearing, Due to the Playerbase being CCPd
that's exactly it. Very good description.
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Rekkr Nordgard
The Ardency of Faith Filthy Bastards
94
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:03:00 -
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Radax Glenn wrote:Are there any details published yet, from any pilots which made it to either of the two event systems?
I'm curious to learn what the explosion was? We're anymore details learned once in system?
There was a lot of speculation that this was going to be an intro to the Ghost Sites, but I've heard nothing concrete. Was the speculation accurate, or was this something entirely new? From what I've heard bits and pieces of, it sounds like more NPC's may now be represented as capsuleers themselves. Is this accurate? The hub-ub also made mention to "leave wreckage for the navies", so they could "investigate". Did anyone get a look at said wreckage, and if so, what was learned?
I am very curious as to what was learned yesterday.
If this info is located elsewhere on the forums or interwebs, please provide linkys...
Thanks in advance...
Radax
Word on the street is that CCP self-destructed the structures and left before the capulseers could meaningfully interact with them. Whether this was done out of boredom, because their workday was over, or they just wanted to get to the party upstairs, your guess is as good as mine. |
Tyler Nietzsche
Weyland-Yutani Pan Galactic
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:04:00 -
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In total: Uninspired. That should cover it. |
Scherezad
Lai Dai Research Spacelane Security
1288
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:11:00 -
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The ghost site installations were very well defended. The defenders had time to get everyone (and their research) off of the installation, after which they scuttled it to prevent it from eventually being taken. It's exactly what I'd have done in their shoes. |
Radax Glenn
Chill Cabal Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 23:52:00 -
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Scherezad wrote:The ghost site installations were very well defended. The defenders had time to get everyone (and their research) off of the installation, after which they scuttled it to prevent it from eventually being taken. It's exactly what I'd have done in their shoes.
^^ Thank you.
Did anyone notice anything special about the defenders? (NPC's) It may be a stretch, but did anyone happen to notice different behaviour from rats, or perhaps stronger tanks than normal? Did the rats hit harder, because of sheer numbers, or was it just overwhelming damage output, by rats on the field? Did anyone have an opportunity to scoop wrecks, or salvage from any of the defending ships, if so, any clues? Were there any other COSMIC SIG'S other than the objectives in either of the systems?
I'm sure we'll all know in a couple of weeks, but still curious. |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
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Posted - 2013.11.09 03:12:00 -
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Radax Glenn wrote:Scherezad wrote:The ghost site installations were very well defended. The defenders had time to get everyone (and their research) off of the installation, after which they scuttled it to prevent it from eventually being taken. It's exactly what I'd have done in their shoes. ^^ Thank you. Did anyone notice anything special about the defenders? (NPC's) It may be a stretch, but did anyone happen to notice different behaviour from rats, or perhaps stronger tanks than normal? Did the rats hit harder, because of sheer numbers, or was it just overwhelming damage output, by rats on the field? Did anyone have an opportunity to scoop wrecks, or salvage from any of the defending ships, if so, any clues? Were there any other COSMIC SIG'S other than the objectives in either of the systems? I'm sure we'll all know in a couple of weeks, but still curious.
WTF have you been the last 36hrs? We were CCPd and that's what matters the most right now. On a side note I'd like to see how the "event story" pans out but I think CCP might be a little bit busy right now...hopefully not FC'ing any fleets or getting their teams CCPd while we await a response. |
Radax Glenn
Chill Cabal Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2013.11.09 04:36:00 -
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Maximus Aerelius wrote:WTF have you been the last 36hrs? We were CCPd and that's what matters the most right now. On a side note I'd like to see how the "event story" pans out but I think CCP might be a little bit busy right now...hopefully not FC'ing any fleets or getting their teams CCPd while we await a response.
I'm sorry you feel cheated by CCP, but I didn't have anything to do with how the event was organized.
I was not at the event, and I am only hearing second hand how difficult it was for pilots that aren't used to TiDi. I agree TiDi is very frustrating. I agree (from what I've heard, and vids I've seen) that some things could have been handled better.
As far as pilot concerns over not having guidance or help from the Navy Fleets or CCP Pilots running with you: I'm looking at all of the event adverts, and some of the chat logs posted from the event, and I can't find anywhere it lists that you would be immune from other ships in Null Sec.
I hear a lot of pilots complaining about not being able to be bridged directly into the event system. Rubbish! Unless of course Angels, or Intaki offered the same service for their capusuleer fleets as well. Then it would still be rubbish, only slightly less so.
I'm asking legitimate questions, and I started a separate thread. So, if you don't mind, leave your CCP hate elsewhere, and don't hijack the thread. |
Erutpar Ambient
Real Nice And Laidback Corporation Black Core Alliance
89
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Posted - 2013.11.09 06:34:00 -
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Radax Glenn wrote:Maximus Aerelius wrote:WTF have you been the last 36hrs? We were CCPd and that's what matters the most right now. On a side note I'd like to see how the "event story" pans out but I think CCP might be a little bit busy right now...hopefully not FC'ing any fleets or getting their teams CCPd while we await a response. I'm sorry you feel cheated by CCP, but I didn't have anything to do with how the event was organized. I was not at the event, and I am only hearing second hand how difficult it was for pilots that aren't used to TiDi. I agree TiDi is very frustrating. I agree (from what I've heard, and vids I've seen) that some things could have been handled better. As far as pilot concerns over not having guidance or help from the Navy Fleets or CCP Pilots running with you: I'm looking at all of the event adverts, and some of the chat logs posted from the event, and I can't find anywhere it lists that you would be immune from other ships in Null Sec. I hear a lot of pilots complaining about not being able to be bridged directly into the event system. Rubbish! Unless of course Angels, or Intaki offered the same service for their capusuleer fleets as well. Then it would still be rubbish, only slightly less so. I'm asking legitimate questions, and I started a separate thread. So, if you don't mind, leave your CCP hate elsewhere, and don't hijack the thread. It would seem that the hate is related to your thread, so it's not really being hijacked.
CCP promised an "Event" to the players. But instead of an event the players that joined were "CCPd". "Events" are supposed to be pieces of storyline delivered in game. The Idea is to experience it instead of just read it. However this "event" was not delivered. Instead of a storyline event, there was just a mass funneling of non-pvp pilots into the open arms of organized (organized enough) pvp-exclusive groups. If you've never pvped before you have no idea what to expect or what to do. With a CCP sponsored event I'd assume the majority of pilots felt like they'd have at least a little bit of support. But of course that was a misconception. The tidi of course would just be the icing on the cake.
The promised "Event" did not happen. The lore would have been just as, if not more, successfully delivered with an addition to a wiki page instead. And I may be wrong, but I highly doubt that many if any of the pvp entities that "sided with the pirates" knew or cared about the story. Had no ping gone out i'm sure everything would have ended up exactly the same anyways. There was really no chance for this to have ended up differently anyways, but based on the Tweet sent out it was obviously intentional. And of course with the tidi there was never a chance to make it in time for the storyline event in the first place, even without all the slaughtering.
All that CCP was successful in achieving was: 1. Having pvp entities fight non-pvp individuals. 2. Causing players to lose faith in in-game events. 3. Getting players to realize that not only are other players out to kill/grief/scam them, but so is CCP.
Of course this is all in regards to a storyline event. The fact that all the pilots got CCPd is of course in and of itself an event.
If they really wanted to have a good pvp event they should of just had the 2 high sec groups meet somewhere and fight each other. Would have been just a great big FFA and maybe high sec pilots could get a taste for blood. Instead they just got shown how easy they are to squash and will probably be even more pvp adverse.
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Radax Glenn
Chill Cabal Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2013.11.09 09:10:00 -
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Erutpar Ambient wrote:It would seem...TLDR
Because the thread isn't about your dissatisfaction with CCP, or it's handling of in game events. The thread is a request for specific information regarding what was learned by pilots actually skilled enough to make it to the destination.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
500
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Posted - 2013.11.09 09:20:00 -
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Radax Glenn wrote:Are there any details published yet, from any pilots which made it to either of the two event systems?
I'm curious to learn what the explosion was? We're anymore details learned once in system?
There was a lot of speculation that this was going to be an intro to the Ghost Sites, but I've heard nothing concrete. Was the speculation accurate, or was this something entirely new? From what I've heard bits and pieces of, it sounds like more NPC's may now be represented as capsuleers themselves. Is this accurate? The hub-ub also made mention to "leave wreckage for the navies", so they could "investigate". Did anyone get a look at said wreckage, and if so, what was learned?
I am very curious as to what was learned yesterday.
If this info is located elsewhere on the forums or interwebs, please provide linkys...
Thanks in advance...
Radax
Players interested in the lore did not get time to get to the Event before CCP terminated the event. The only people actually at the event sites were a few cloaky people watching random PvP, Null Sec entities, Pirates and a couple of live streamers. All the high sec/event fleets were still battling their way through TiDi when CCP called the event over, & self destructed the structures. |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
857
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Posted - 2013.11.09 09:56:00 -
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Radax Glenn wrote:Maximus Aerelius wrote:WTF have you been the last 36hrs? We were CCPd and that's what matters the most right now. On a side note I'd like to see how the "event story" pans out but I think CCP might be a little bit busy right now...hopefully not FC'ing any fleets or getting their teams CCPd while we await a response. I'm sorry you feel cheated by CCP, but I didn't have anything to do with how the event was organized. I was not at the event, and I am only hearing second hand how difficult it was for pilots that aren't used to TiDi. I agree TiDi is very frustrating. I agree (from what I've heard, and vids I've seen) that some things could have been handled better. As far as pilot concerns over not having guidance or help from the Navy Fleets or CCP Pilots running with you: I'm looking at all of the event adverts, and some of the chat logs posted from the event, and I can't find anywhere it lists that you would be immune from other ships in Null Sec. I hear a lot of pilots complaining about not being able to be bridged directly into the event system. Rubbish! Unless of course Angels, or Intaki offered the same service for their capusuleer fleets as well. Then it would still be rubbish, only slightly less so. I'm asking legitimate questions, and I started a separate thread. So, if you don't mind, leave your CCP hate elsewhere, and don't hijack the thread.
I'm sorry if you read this as a hi-jack, it was written in a tongue in cheek fashion and I was actually genuine with my wish to know about the lore story.
If you were there (and I'm not saying you weren't) then you know the frustration and none of this "rage" is regarding pilots that "aren't used to TiDi" nor were we expecting to " be immune from other ships in Null Sec" we came wanting and expecting a fight but participation in a Quote:"unique situation. We do not foresee having to repeat this call to action." instead we were just CCPd with "event content" tan very few actually saw apart from warp tunnel animations.
I'm sure CCP will release the news when they feel ready that it should be released but as you can tell not many people know a damn thing of what happened to the objective. |
epicurus ataraxia
Broken Wheel Mercantile and Trading Company Illusion of Solitude
162
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Posted - 2013.11.09 10:17:00 -
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Unfortunately there is not much likelihood of finding out much, the players coming from hisec were either slaughtered or delayed in TIDI until the event was terminated. It appears from the nullsec dwellers who were already in system that the pirates self destructed. Your only hope may be some cloaky person may come forward, as it seems everyone in null was too busy taking advantage of the amazing gift they had been given to take any notice. |
Radax Glenn
Chill Cabal Northern Associates.
35
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Posted - 2013.11.09 21:40:00 -
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What I'm speculating from the propaganda I've seen, and the elusive "no turning back" segments we've heard: I wonder if these Ghost Sites, will provide the resources needed for a Player Run Alliance, to run they're own Incursions?
Perhaps instead of Nation showing up to "raid" the resources of other Regions maybe the next "Incursion" will be CFC? Or PL, or N3, or insert large null power bloc here.
Or maybe, it will start as Angel Incursions, or Serpentis Incursions, and then lead into player run Incursions. Wild speculation of course.
What would have been cool, is if pilots reported finding some kind of wreckage which eluded to the creation of large scale "Worm Hole Generator" components which didn't have a range limitation to them, or rather much larger than we're used to?
Again wild speculation, and kind of excited for this release. |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
866
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Posted - 2013.11.09 21:51:00 -
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My speculation and from watching the EVE Vision Road Map would be that the rubicon moment is us building our own stargates or systems and not contracting but expanding New Eden. |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
275
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Posted - 2013.11.09 21:52:00 -
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Took me alot of effort and lots of talking with people, but managed to get a fairly complete image of the Live event from an IC point of view:
Capsuleers respond en masse to Call to Arms, Navies fail to provide assistance!
In short: Capsuleers failed to arrive (most didn't even make it to the meatgrinders in null!) Pirates won & secured their research. |
Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
262
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Posted - 2013.11.09 23:46:00 -
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I'd like to correct the Serpentis side of things.
The Serpentis Vindicator wing, led by Launette Vylier I believe, was completely destroyed. In the end, seems the field was held mostly by CFC forces that chose to preserve the facility and give Serpentis time to evacuate.
That said it was very much fun! |
Na Kahm
Astra1 Mining
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Posted - 2013.11.10 00:09:00 -
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If the new "expansion" is anything like the ****** up **** CCP run bullshit, then I don't give a flying **** about it |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
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Posted - 2013.11.10 01:06:00 -
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Radax Glenn wrote:What I'm speculating from the propaganda I've seen, and the elusive "no turning back" segments we've heard: I wonder if these Ghost Sites, will provide the resources needed for a Player Run Alliance, to run they're own Incursions?
Perhaps instead of Nation showing up to "raid" the resources of other Regions maybe the next "Incursion" will be CFC? Or PL, or N3, or insert large null power bloc here.
Or maybe, it will start as Angel Incursions, or Serpentis Incursions, and then lead into player run Incursions. Wild speculation of course.
What would have been cool, is if pilots reported finding some kind of wreckage which eluded to the creation of large scale "Worm Hole Generator" components which didn't have a range limitation to them, or rather much larger than we're used to?
Again wild speculation, and kind of excited for this release. Or you could read the Test Server thread on Ghost sites, the Dev blogs covering them, and know exactly what Ghost sites are actually going to be.... Sorry, but that's just plain lazy on your part to not already know about ghost sites. The lore side, different matter, but the actual functions of ghost sites have been public for weeks. |
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
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Posted - 2013.11.10 01:09:00 -
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Trii Seo wrote:I'd like to correct the Serpentis side of things.
The Serpentis Vindicator wing, led by Launette Vylier I believe, was completely destroyed. In the end, seems the field was held mostly by CFC forces that chose to preserve the facility and give Serpentis time to evacuate.
That said it was very much fun!
Aye, I heared this, but as most folks got killed in the end, and CFC ignoring/preserving the facility, I choose to keep it in a *Serpentis is Victorious!* way, especially as the CFC left the base alone, 'supporting' the Serpentis like that. To add, the Angel & Serpentis battles themselves were hard to get info on, simply because most involved didn't make it to there (albeit enough to Serpentis to get a fairly ok image)
IC viewpoint of the event :Capsuleers respond en masse to Call to Arms, Navies fail to provide assistance! reposting as it's a new page, and relevant to OP + those who look for answers |
Radax Glenn
Chill Cabal Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2013.11.10 07:02:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Or you could read the Test Server thread on Ghost sites, the Dev blogs covering them, and know exactly what Ghost sites are actually going to be.... Sorry, but that's just plain lazy on your part to not already know about ghost sites. The lore side, different matter, but the actual functions of ghost sites have been public for weeks.
I've actually read all of the Ghost Site threads that I can find. The "spectrum" of my interogatives and speculations we're specifically tied in with the live events and if they did anything extra "as a hint" for things to come, with the live event tie in.
I do see the KM fom you being in system though. Did you make it on grid, or did you get trapped elsewhere? |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
279
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Posted - 2013.11.10 07:11:00 -
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Radax Glenn wrote: [I've actually read all of the Ghost Site threads that I can find. The "spectrum" of my interogatives and speculations we're specifically tied in with the live events and if they did anything extra "as a hint" for things to come, with the live event tie in.
I wasn't there, but I did talk to alot of people about the Live event in order to compile a somewhat accurate IC report. I can say that there was very little lore-building trough actors. Some of the lines they said were not even IC or just outright bad. Mainly the Navy Commander Actors, the Pirate Actors were better from what I heared, saying cheesy lines, but some did say some weird lines that sounded OOC. No Event Actor gave hints about what was to come in the future, nor what was done in the research stations, beside that it was 'Evil' They already had trouble relaying where people should head to, or what they were doing.... |
Imitheus
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:06:00 -
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Hello to all,
Was also wondering what players thought this was all about. In the end I am hard pressed to believe that there was any lore linked to this. I want to believe it, but other than the Aurora Arcology article haven't found anything else.
I did find however a new article by Goblin that sees this event in a totally different light, namely as "the largest awox in the history of the game. Check it:
http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-largest-awox-in-history-of-eve.html\
What do you guys think?
imi.
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Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
262
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Posted - 2013.11.10 16:28:00 -
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It's Greedy Goblin. His articles have the legitimacy of an bridge troll and are mostly uninformed rants with little or biased factual data as backup.
There likely be more data on monday though. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
511
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Posted - 2013.11.10 17:55:00 -
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I don't even bother reading it, I was there on fleet coms and in Doril. I have seen the CCP roleplaying mentally challenged Amarr officer. |
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