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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.02.13 07:30:00 -
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Edited by: Alliaanna Dalaii on 13/02/2006 07:30:52 Ok first off I love my fat pidgeon of doom... But can someone help me make her sexier
Dealing actual dmg is not really required, all thats needed is that she can stand up in front of sentrys for a while long enough to keep the scramble/web on the target and collect the loot and corpse afterwards. The setup may not be exactly how it is in my hanger as its a monday morning and im at work
High's 3 Medium Nosferatu 4 Medium Beam Laser II (Pulse if grid/cpu is lacking)
Mid's Sensor Booster II Webber Scrmabler
Low's 2 Medium Armour Rep II 3 Hardeners (Kin, Therm, Expl) 1600mm Rolled Tungsten
At the moment the setup holds up for quite a long time under sentry fire with I think 7k armour or something like that... lowest resist 70 ish
Any suggestions to improve it ? And yes I know folk may laugh at the small lasers, but
A: Cepters have a nasty shock B: Only Quad Beam II's will really fit other than them C: My hangers full of em
Alliaanna
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.02.13 09:38:00 -
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Oh come on... 50 reads and no has anything better to add
Alliaanna
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Chackle
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Posted - 2006.02.13 09:50:00 -
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Well, in my opinion I think you should go for damage with some tanking, I dont see the point in having a pirate ship that tanks, they will just call their friends to help because your taking so damn long to kill them :)
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.02.13 10:04:00 -
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Edited by: Alliaanna Dalaii on 13/02/2006 10:04:50
Originally by: Chackle Well, in my opinion I think you should go for damage with some tanking, I dont see the point in having a pirate ship that tanks, they will just call their friends to help because your taking so damn long to kill them :)
Chackle you blue buffoon... If I wanted your bad advice id ask for it in corp chat
The point of a pirate ship that tanks is when the little people refuse to sit in the belts and play dumb you can take them on at the gates... and then have enough time to fly around like an idiot picking up the loot and corpse
Alliaanna
No mentioning my charchter name fool ! ahum I was left to die on my own yesterday *sobs*
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Forsch
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Posted - 2006.02.13 10:17:00 -
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I have a prophecy that is fitted pretty much the same way yours is. Although I'm not a pirate I use this setup for solo pvp. If the target cannot repair (because of nos) even those 4 beams should be good enough for damage. Don't forget about the drones. Or can't you use them with sentries aggro on you?
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.02.13 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Forsch I have a prophecy that is fitted pretty much the same way yours is. Although I'm not a pirate I use this setup for solo pvp. If the target cannot repair (because of nos) even those 4 beams should be good enough for damage. Don't forget about the drones. Or can't you use them with sentries aggro on you?
Sentrys BBQ them before they can do anything usefull, so they stay in the hold till theres folk in the belts
Alliaanna
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Abbey Smallwood
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Posted - 2006.02.13 10:25:00 -
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Naw, go for Pulses. They do more damage, and you're going to want to get in under 10km anyway for web and nos. You wasted 4 seconds reading this post and you'll never get those back. |
Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.02.13 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Abbey Smallwood Naw, go for Pulses. They do more damage, and you're going to want to get in under 10km anyway for web and nos.
Why ? what does a bit more dps mean ? (ok a lot more )
Pit my setup Vs any pulse setup you want on a proph... I will win it WILL tank you... and unless you have more NOS's than me you will die Its beaten a couple of Zealots so im more than happy with it for what is a fairly cheap ship
Alliaanna
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Cadadon
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Posted - 2006.02.13 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii
Originally by: Abbey Smallwood Naw, go for Pulses. They do more damage, and you're going to want to get in under 10km anyway for web and nos.
Why ? what does a bit more dps mean ? (ok a lot more )
Pit my setup Vs any pulse setup you want on a proph... I will win it WILL tank you... and unless you have more NOS's than me you will die Its beaten a couple of Zealots so im more than happy with it for what is a fairly cheap ship
Alliaanna
Think he's talking about fitting Medium Pulse instead of Medium Beam, and I'd agree with him. Setup looks good to me mate, a lot of people refuse to use smaller guns on ships, but tbh I've found them to be quite useful in the right situation.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.02.13 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: Alliaanna Dalaii on 13/02/2006 11:34:08 Oh ok... my bad.. thought he was suggesting the standard Heavy Pulse II's for my poor pidgeon
but im still saying no to Medium Pulse II ... simply on the grounds that any frig/cepter will kill you At least the Medium Beam II can just about reach those annoying folk that orbit you at long range
Alliaanna
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xaioguai
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Posted - 2006.02.13 11:34:00 -
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the only thing you can get is indys without BM
frigates will just zoom through your eyes with MWD and cruisers can just tank you all the way to gates.
well, maybe also some noobs frigates that can't master the skills of MWD, but thats really nothing to be proud of.....
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.02.13 11:45:00 -
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Prophs need hull upgrades 5 and advanced weapons upgrades 5,bc require the same amount of training as hacs do,they are slow and really only good at tanking and dishing out damage. You will need max fitting,gunnery and ship skills to get any real success out of these things solo in pvp.
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"Quick, bring me a beaker of wine,that I may wet my mind and say something clever." ~Aristophane
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.02.13 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: Alliaanna Dalaii on 13/02/2006 11:47:40
Originally by: xaioguai the only thing you can get is indys without BM
frigates will just zoom through your eyes with MWD and cruisers can just tank you all the way to gates.
well, maybe also some noobs frigates that can't master the skills of MWD, but thats really nothing to be proud of.....
Please read the opening post...
Dmg is not important... this is not a solo'ing setup...
The friggys with mwd have allready popped bfr they get to the gate... followed by their pods And Bc and smaller dont stand a chance in hell
Alliaanna
[EDIT] Ok ive read it back myself I didn't make it very clear lol
The setup is for use with friends at the gate Ones who may or may not be 150km away
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Cecil Montague
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Posted - 2006.02.13 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lucian Alucard Prophs need hull upgrades 5 and advanced weapons upgrades 5,bc require the same amount of training as hacs do...
Erm, no they don't. You need cruiser lvl IV and BC lvl 1 plus the skills you need to train those, Spaceship command and frig skills etc.
You can be in BC long long before a HAC.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.02.13 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Cecil Montague
Originally by: Lucian Alucard Prophs need hull upgrades 5 and advanced weapons upgrades 5,bc require the same amount of training as hacs do...
Erm, no they don't. You need cruiser lvl IV and BC lvl 1 plus the skills you need to train those, Spaceship command and frig skills etc.
You can be in BC long long before a HAC.
Read what he said again, He means to stand a comptetitive chance in PvP in a Bc you need high skills. And he's right
Alliaanna
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Zhaine
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Posted - 2006.02.13 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii
Originally by: Cecil Montague
Originally by: Lucian Alucard Prophs need hull upgrades 5 and advanced weapons upgrades 5,bc require the same amount of training as hacs do...
Erm, no they don't. You need cruiser lvl IV and BC lvl 1 plus the skills you need to train those, Spaceship command and frig skills etc.
You can be in BC long long before a HAC.
Read what he said again, He means to stand a comptetitive chance in PvP in a Bc you need high skills. And he's right
Alliaanna
Solo, perhaps. Maybe you're better off flying cruisers 'cos they're cheaper and faster. But saying you need HAC level skills to use a BC for PvP is a bit silly. They can effectively deal dammage or tank with far fewer skills than that. ..
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Psycarne
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Posted - 2006.02.13 14:00:00 -
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Yep you don't need uber skills to fly a BC solo. ------------- Order of the Wombles: Recycling those untidy modules on your ship.
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Mirph
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Posted - 2006.02.13 14:58:00 -
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PLEASE, mr. is asking for sentry tanking solo pvp, so please stop answering with nonsense suggestions. read the first thread and think over b4 saying anything. ------------------ Road Runner |
Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.02.13 21:36:00 -
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However replying in some way would be nice.... 500 reads and not a single person has posted a setup
Alliaanna
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Weirda
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Posted - 2006.02.13 21:57:00 -
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weirda hate <-- rolling eye smiley
weirda love pie.
you setup + med pulse II instead of med beam II would be only change - but tbh, it doesn't really matter.
pretty sure a maller could do the same job cheaper with w/o guns though ... and would have a faster base locktime iwrc. __ Weirda ...balanced NOS change... Fix Assault Ship 4th Bonus and More!
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Gabby05
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Posted - 2006.02.13 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Weirda weirda hate <-- rolling eye smiley
weirda love pie.
you setup + med pulse II instead of med beam II would be only change - but tbh, it doesn't really matter.
pretty sure a maller could do the same job cheaper with w/o guns though ... and would have a faster base locktime iwrc.
Gabby05 thinks Weirda is right a maller can do the same job as a prophecy, Gabby05 also thinks prophecy can lock a frigate before its made it to the gate because Gabby05 knows that not everyone that flies through low sec is at the keyboard.
Gabby05 hate <-- rolling eye smiley too but still uses it
She also wants to exchange maller sentry tank setups with Weirda if she/he so chooses to accept current record is 1 minute
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.02.14 07:28:00 -
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Edited by: Alliaanna Dalaii on 14/02/2006 07:28:47
Originally by: Gabby05
Originally by: Weirda weirda hate <-- rolling eye smiley
weirda love pie.
you setup + med pulse II instead of med beam II would be only change - but tbh, it doesn't really matter.
pretty sure a maller could do the same job cheaper with w/o guns though ... and would have a faster base locktime iwrc.
"because Gabby05 knows that not everyone that flies through low sec is at the keyboard"
hehe that bit made me laugh ^
As to the Maller... quite simply no Yes it can tank for a short amount of time... and yes its cheaper. But when you look at the cost of both ships theybe both basicly nothing apart from the mods the Proph is extremely cheap. And the maller cannot keep that duel rep running, my Proph can,,, and has a larger base cap as well as those 3 NOS
If your record is 1 minute I think i'l stick with the proph lol.... Im normally drunk... it takes me longer than that to pick up the loot
Alliaanna
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Hectaire Glade
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Posted - 2006.02.14 08:24:00 -
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My current setup
6 Heavy Pulse's & a Nos II AB II, Webber and Scram Med AR II, 3x energized Adaptive Nano's, Warp stab, Power Diag II 2 warriors and 3 goblins
Pop on some microwave crystals and fry you from range to 20Kish, drop to MFs for the close guys. Regarding your setup, not having atleast an AB on a prophecy is kinda dumb, its sooooo slow, most of your quarry will outrange you before you can kill it on base speed alone, especially with only 4 little guns. The damage output on your setup is really quite shockingly low if your flying a ship that size.
Pulse > Beam.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.02.14 08:42:00 -
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Edited by: Alliaanna Dalaii on 14/02/2006 08:43:10
Originally by: Hectaire Glade My current setup
6 Heavy Pulse's & a Nos II AB II, Webber and Scram Med AR II, 3x energized Adaptive Nano's, Warp stab, Power Diag II 2 warriors and 3 goblins
Pop on some microwave crystals and fry you from range to 20Kish, drop to MFs for the close guys. Regarding your setup, not having atleast an AB on a prophecy is kinda dumb, its sooooo slow, most of your quarry will outrange you before you can kill it on base speed alone, especially with only 4 little guns. The damage output on your setup is really quite shockingly low if your flying a ship that size.
Pulse > Beam.
Dear god... what is it with people and not reading posts
Can your setup tank sentries. No Could it beat mine. No, I could tank that forver in range of NOS or not.
The only way you would ever "win" is by warping away due to your stab
Your setup fullfills nothing that i asked for... thanks
Did your read any of this post ? like at all....
Alliaanna
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Hectaire Glade
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Posted - 2006.02.14 09:04:00 -
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Just how are you going to break a passive tank with resists at 68%-84% with 4 baby guns? AB away out of your NOS range and fry you on a 20K orbit while you limp around at 180 m/s. Your damage will not break my tank with those 4 guns, your setup will not allow you to close range to prevent my repair with your NOS, therefore you have 3 wasted slots. My damage is sufficient to break your tank over time, especially if you are running active hardners, guns and a repper.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.02.14 09:16:00 -
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Edited by: Alliaanna Dalaii on 14/02/2006 09:17:30
Originally by: Hectaire Glade Just how are you going to break a passive tank with resists at 68%-84% with 4 baby guns? AB away out of your NOS range and fry you on a 20K orbit while you limp around at 180 m/s. Your damage will not break my tank with those 4 guns, your setup will not allow you to close range to prevent my repair with your NOS, therefore you have 3 wasted slots. My damage is sufficient to break your tank over time, especially if you are running active hardners, guns and a repper.
Ok il ask this one last time.... READ THE POST
Its not a solo setup ffs. I dont need an Ab... all I have to do is sit on the gate and web/scramble anything coming towards it
Did you read the part of the OP that said "dmg is not important" no I guesse you didn't.....
Well just to clarify for you... Im not the one dealing it
Urr and your setup braking my tank over time ? lol no it wont. If you wish to sit outside NOS, web range your dps will be a joke run off and figure out what your dps is with 0 dmg mods and Mw crystals, then come back and give us all a good laugh
Read the post properly or run along please, I asked for a sentry tanking setup.. your is not
Alliaanna
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TribalBleb
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Posted - 2006.02.14 13:01:00 -
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Since damage is not important, how about a gang support module that boost your armor instead of a medium beam?
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.02.14 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: TribalBleb Since damage is not important, how about a gang support module that boost your armor instead of a medium beam?
Because my gang support skills suck
Alliaanna
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Yarek Balear
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Posted - 2006.02.14 13:17:00 -
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How about no-one respond to the post, because the OP doesn't want to listen to opinions or advice, he wasn't to show how uber he is and p*** all over any comments made to try and help him...
Dude - if you don't agree with advice fine, thank them and move on....
/flame off
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.02.14 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Yarek Balear How about no-one respond to the post, because the OP doesn't want to listen to opinions or advice, he wasn't to show how uber he is and p*** all over any comments made to try and help him...
Dude - if you don't agree with advice fine, thank them and move on....
/flame off
/flame on
this post was not asking for advice on how to setup a prophecy for PvP...
I asked for a setup to tank sentries, while giving web/scramble on a target. If people wish to give helpfull advice on this matter I will listen !
The gang support option is a good one, except my skills in that area are currently lacking
Im sorry if my annoyance at people's failure to read is seen as flaming.
Alliaanna
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