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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2013.11.13 02:47:00 -
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This is the link to the CCP twitter response. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9423
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Posted - 2013.11.13 03:30:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Why not actually send them money, rather than use in game isk to cover your donations? Giving money out of your pocket means something, giving meaningless money from within a game is just weak.
Hey maybe you should take VV's offer and match his donation then?
You do realize that nobody is donating "meaningless money from within a game" but transferring PLEX to CCP that will be converted into a donation to a charity of CCP's choosing, correct? Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
562
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Posted - 2013.11.13 06:42:00 -
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Hoping for a response soon then :) |
Magnu Stormhawk
Stormhawk Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.11.13 09:28:00 -
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Make happen.
Please. |
Krashion
Angry Dragon Research and Production
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Posted - 2013.11.13 11:47:00 -
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still waiting on CCP on a side note, I may just donate the bo amount on my auction myself and cancel my char auction, had a few ******* emails which make me despair with the eve community |
Solaris Ecladia
Obamacare.
174
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Posted - 2013.11.13 12:10:00 -
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There's a few consistent themes in this thread. First let me say Im all for CCP re-instating a plex for relief fund. Second, by doing this, CCP and you promote EVE via charity and can help bring people into the game. Third, to the people saying "send so and so a check. Or donate blood or whatever." For some of us, that isnt an option. Im pretty ******* poor IRL, but I have a decent amount of ISK in game I could buy plexes and donate with to help out. I cant donate blood due to a medical condition that makes my blood not replenish quick enough. Also why are you people so against a charity? |
Antihrist Pripravnik
Paravan Korporacija
126
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Posted - 2013.11.13 12:12:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Imagine this: you play the ONE game where you can save REAL lives just by playing!
Ender's game? I KNEW something's fishy about EVE
Anyway, +1 for this PLEX drive. CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic |
Samroski
Games Inc. The Night Crew Alliance
309
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Posted - 2013.11.13 12:27:00 -
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Krashion wrote:still waiting on CCP on a side note, I may just donate the bo amount on my auction myself and cancel my char auction, had a few ******* emails which make me despair with the eve community Opposition to previous charity drives nearly made me loose faith in the Eve community. The opposition was especially intense for the Pakistan drive where the prevalent sentiment appeared to be, "they deserve what they got, so let them die."
The drives did help restore my faith in CCP. Possibly those were good days for CCP. Dust was not even on the horizon, and tax benefits probably made more sense than they do currently.
Having said all that, and despite the fiasco of 2011, I still believe that CCP retain their core values. They repeatedly make mistakes, but are similarly consistent in making amends. I believe that they will (eventually) do the right thing (whatever that may be). Any colour you like. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4641
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:16:00 -
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Krashion wrote:still waiting on CCP on a side note, I may just donate the bo amount on my auction myself and cancel my char auction, had a few ******* emails which make me despair with the eve community.
Sale cancelled and 10b donation sent
Thank you very much!
10B donation confirmed in game.
P.S. please don't send ISK to me but to VAERT. I'd rather keep accounting simple, because VAERT MUST be completely transparent for any CCP inspection.
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Solaris Ecladia wrote: Second, by doing this, CCP and you promote EVE via charity and can help bring people into the game.
That's true.
Imagine monetizing the positive PR CCP would get just with some articles on some important MMO websites: "EvE Online, the only MMO so real that players may help Philippines!"
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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RAW23
491
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Posted - 2013.11.13 13:49:00 -
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Samroski wrote: Opposition to previous charity drives nearly made me loose faith in the Eve community. The opposition was especially intense for the Pakistan drive where the prevalent sentiment appeared to be, "they deserve what they got, so let them die."
I don't remember the Pakistan one, only Haiti and Japan. Must have missed it somehow. There are two types of EVE player:
those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not. |
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Samroski
Games Inc. The Night Crew Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:41:00 -
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RAW23 wrote:Samroski wrote: Opposition to previous charity drives nearly made me loose faith in the Eve community. The opposition was especially intense for the Pakistan drive where the prevalent sentiment appeared to be, "they deserve what they got, so let them die."
I don't remember the Pakistan one, only Haiti and Japan. Must have missed it somehow. The Pakistan drive
the thread
eve-search thread Any colour you like. |
RAW23
491
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:49:00 -
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Samroski wrote:RAW23 wrote:Samroski wrote: Opposition to previous charity drives nearly made me loose faith in the Eve community. The opposition was especially intense for the Pakistan drive where the prevalent sentiment appeared to be, "they deserve what they got, so let them die."
I don't remember the Pakistan one, only Haiti and Japan. Must have missed it somehow. The Pakistan drivethe threadeve-search thread
Didn't get past page one but that must be officially the most depressing thread ever.
Glad to see CCP managed to raise 40k even so.
There are two types of EVE player:
those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not. |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
256
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:24:00 -
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yes help gangs for more rice The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
563
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:03:00 -
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RAW23 wrote: Didn't get past page one but that must be officially the most depressing thread ever. Glad to see CCP managed to raise 40k even so.
I agree....that is possibly the most depressing thing I have read on Eve-O |
Dracnys
45
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:43:00 -
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This is the most important thread on the forums right now. It totally deserves at least one CCP answer.
I get that it would look bad for CCP to say outright no or say that they can't do it for some other reason but just ignoring the issue is an answer in itself. On the other hand we had three other emergency drives already so I can't see how this shouldn't work. The scale of disaster certainly qualifies and there are lots of players that would love to help. |
Kaserin Smarte
The Industrial Consortium CAStabouts
2
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:39:00 -
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Sorry if this comment does not belong here but....
I have an idea for the future of EVE and a chance for CCP to give back easily & all the time. My idea is that CCP takes all the ISK that gets taken but goes no where. You know the ISK that I give to a station for the use of its facilities or w.e. The ISK that just goes to no one in EVE. I forget what that is called a ISK drain maybe I don't know. CCP could take all that ISK & instead of making it disappear they could collect it. They could either take all of the ISK or a certain % of it & use that to give to charities. They could hold monthly, quarterly, or w.e events. Where we the players vote on a charity to give that months or w.e earnings to a charity. These events could also be used by players to set up their own events. Where they get their corps/alliances to just dump massive amounts of ISK into the drains. Then CCP could just put a simple poll up on the website of charities for us to choose from. We could even give the isk to top 3 (maybe top 5 or however many the math lets us) most voted for instead of just 1 charity. OP your group could lead the charge for this change. Now I don't know the mechanics behind these "ISK drains" and maybe it wont work but it was just a thought. Once again I am sorry if this was too off topic. |
Zions Child
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
515
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Posted - 2013.11.13 23:30:00 -
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Kaserin Smarte wrote:Sorry if this comment does not belong here but....
I have an idea for the future of EVE and a chance for CCP to give back easily & all the time. My idea is that CCP takes all the ISK that gets taken but goes no where. You know the ISK that I give to a station for the use of its facilities or w.e. The ISK that just goes to no one in EVE. I forget what that is called a ISK drain maybe I don't know. CCP could take all that ISK & instead of making it disappear they could collect it. They could either take all of the ISK or a certain % of it & use that to give to charities. They could hold monthly, quarterly, or w.e events. Where we the players vote on a charity to give that months or w.e earnings to a charity. These events could also be used by players to set up their own player events. Where they get their corps/alliances to just dump massive amounts of ISK into the drains. Then CCP could just put a simple poll up on the website of charities for us to choose from. We could even give the isk to top 3 (maybe top 5 or however many the math lets us) most voted for instead of just 1 charity. OP your group could lead the charge for this change. Now I don't know the mechanics behind these "ISK drains" and maybe it wont work but it was just a thought. Once again I am sorry if this was too off topic.
The point of isk drains is to take money out of the market - the only slight possible transfer of EVE isk for real money is through purchasing PLEX, which are worth about $15 to CCP.
Anyways, the isk drains in EVE are VERY large. If CCP were to dump all that fake EVE monies for PLEX, which are real monies (at least for CCP), the entire PLEX economy would collapse. Probably overnight.
Basically, it would be massive intervention that would destroy the EVE economy - and in the long run, reduce sales for CCP (the people who buy PLEX to sell for isk tend to not be particularly price sensitive to isk and only buy what PLEX they need for whatever they have to purchase - on the other side, people who buy PLEX with isk tend to be more sensitive to the price of a subscription, and may stop playing EVE if PLEX becomes out of reach for them).
Basically, it's better the way it is. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1170
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Posted - 2013.11.13 23:32:00 -
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Kaserin Smarte wrote:Sorry if this comment does not belong here but....
I have an idea for the future of EVE and a chance for CCP to give back easily & all the time. My idea is that CCP takes all the ISK that gets taken but goes no where. You know the ISK that I give to a station for the use of its facilities or w.e. The ISK that just goes to no one in EVE. I forget what that is called a ISK drain maybe I don't know. CCP could take all that ISK & instead of making it disappear they could collect it. They could either take all of the ISK or a certain % of it & use that to give to charities. They could hold monthly, quarterly, or w.e events. Where we the players vote on a charity to give that months or w.e earnings to a charity. These events could also be used by players to set up their own player events. Where they get their corps/alliances to just dump massive amounts of ISK into the drains. Then CCP could just put a simple poll up on the website of charities for us to choose from. We could even give the isk to top 3 (maybe top 5 or however many the math lets us) most voted for instead of just 1 charity. OP your group could lead the charge for this change. Now I don't know the mechanics behind these "ISK drains" and maybe it wont work but it was just a thought. Once again I am sorry if this was too off topic.
Won't work. Those ISK drains are there to reduce inflation, your suggestion would see the ISK pumped back into the economy which would cause the PLEX price to skyrocket. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. The difference between an enemy and a friend is that you stab your enemies in the front. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1170
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Posted - 2013.11.13 23:35:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:A newborn player has just sent 10M to the charity: probably all he had. He also opted to remain anonymous.
I am going to send him 100M off my personal wallet for the gesture!
/bows
Vaerah Vahrokha - EVE's second ever legit ISK doubler :) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. The difference between an enemy and a friend is that you stab your enemies in the front. |
Tengu Skunkworks
T3 Aerospace Industries
7
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Posted - 2013.11.13 23:37:00 -
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Cant support this cause more! |
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Ashina Sito
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2013.11.14 04:33:00 -
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Do it and I will donate PLEX too. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4651
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Posted - 2013.11.14 08:07:00 -
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More donations are trickling in, I'll update the list when I get back home. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Nanatoa
454
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Posted - 2013.11.14 10:41:00 -
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There's a dev reply in the duplicate thread which was bumped excessively. "Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
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Zappity
Kurved Space
630
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Posted - 2013.11.14 10:51:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Why not actually send them money, rather than use in game isk to cover your donations? Giving money out of your pocket means something, giving meaningless money from within a game is just weak. Why not read some of the explanations (eg Rhivre's) since your last similar query? YES, sending money will probably be best. YES, doing this as well would be better. AND good for CCP's which is also good for the game. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Samroski
Games Inc. The Night Crew Alliance
312
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Posted - 2013.11.14 10:56:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:There's a dev reply in the duplicate thread which was bumped excessively. Think I'm going to refrain from commenting.
Reminds me of Supertramp and becoming cynical... Any colour you like. |
Krashion
Angry Dragon Research and Production
24
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Posted - 2013.11.14 11:45:00 -
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Samroski wrote:Nanatoa wrote:There's a dev reply in the duplicate thread which was bumped excessively. Think I'm going to refrain from commenting. Reminds me of Supertramp and becoming cynical...
CCP really do make me sick |
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CCP Falcon
4515
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Posted - 2013.11.14 12:34:00 -
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Hey guys,
I didn't see this thread until just now, but I've offered a response in the other one...
I'll lock this thread now, and divert you there for further information, as we have a few duplicates floating around on the forums.
Thanks! <3
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Hitomi Desu
Vagabond Association
0
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Posted - 2013.11.14 12:56:00 -
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Either CCP enables us to send money through sinking PLEX to various organizations or they drop the whole idea.
I don't see why we should send ISK through another player so he purchases PLEX and then he struggles with getting CCP to transform those ISKies/PLEX into RL money to send it to whatever fund he currently thinks of. While I doubt that Vaerah has bad intentions the process is intransparent and it creates a monopoly.
I'm all for a tool that enables us to throw in PLEX and then we can select to which fund the money should go to - kinda like on humblebundle. But handing over this decision to another pilot is what doesn't sit well with me. Besides all the hypocrite hate you get from questioning the whole thing. |
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