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Stems
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Posted - 2006.02.14 02:46:00 -
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I've recently tried a few lv 4's, and I find I can kill everything fine, but the problems are with the small frigs; they take way too long for me to kill, my setup is below, any help is appreciated:
High 6x Arba Siege 2x 150mm --------------- Medium Gist B-Type 100mn AB Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster 2x Invul Field II 1x Rat Specific Hardener --------------- Low 4x PDS II 2x BCS II ---------------
I know it needs work, any suggestions will be appreciated as to what mods I should be looking to get or what to change. Thanks!
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Nukeitall
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Posted - 2006.02.14 02:53:00 -
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Edited by: Nukeitall on 14/02/2006 02:53:11 I personally use 1 heavy nos and 1 drone link to boost drone range in the highs instead of the guns.
I also use 4 PDUs instead of 3PDUs and 2 BCUs.
In the mids...1 CPR instead of the afterburner. Come back with a tractor fitted industrial and burn around with full nanofibers scooping everything. 2 rat specific actives and 1 rat specific passive.
Again, that's just my setup. Has yet to give me guff.
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Shinshi Casoyako
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Posted - 2006.02.14 09:04:00 -
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I use this on level 4's and it works pretty good:
6 siege (if BS is present) 6 cruise (if BS is not present) 2 tractor beams
1 large tech II shield booster 2 shield boost amplifiers 3 named tech I hardners
3 PDU 1 BCU 1 CPU (could fit other stuff but I dont wanna buy arbalast sieges and other named stuff) . Seriously Have I Not Said How I Can Assist Some One You Are Killing Online? |
Mable
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Posted - 2006.02.14 09:21:00 -
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I only use Cruise Missile Launcher II. With Cruise Missile Spec at level 4 i can kill all including the 2.5Mil BS in Vengeance. And instead of the 150mm Rails I use Medium Beam Laser II because they need no Ammo :-)
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Kingslayer2
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Posted - 2006.02.14 09:35:00 -
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i use HI slots 6 arby cruise heavy dim nos drone link augmentor
meds 1 rat spec. hardener t2 2 invul. t2 hardener dread gur. passive xl shield booster t2 and dread gur. shield amp
lows dom. bcu internal force field array damage control 3 pdu t2
can do alot of the lvl 4's
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000Hunter000
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Posted - 2006.02.14 13:00:00 -
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Having problems with fast npc friggies in ur raven?
Just stick a couple of T2 med drones in ur dronebay and see them npc's dissapear!!!
U can even use race specific drones too.
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Ralitge boyter
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Posted - 2006.02.14 13:15:00 -
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High 6x T2 Torp launcher 1x Large NOS (2 medium do not fit with my skills) --------------- Medium 3x T2 Large shield extender 2x Invul Field II 1x T2 Amplifier (depends on the Rat but most often a EM will do) --------------- Low 3x PDS II 3x BCS II ---------------
That should be enough to last you for a while in any lvl4 mission, as long as you take them one group at a time and do not shoot the building that they are guarding... ------------------------------------------- Should you disagree with me, well I guess that is because I disagree with you. If you have a problem with that please feel free not to tell me. |
Stems
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Posted - 2006.02.14 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000 Having problems with fast npc friggies in ur raven?
Just stick a couple of T2 med drones in ur dronebay and see them npc's dissapear!!!
U can even use race specific drones too.
Part of the problem may of been I only had 3 infiltrators but the setups are still greatly appreciated ...now off to work on Torps 5
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Tomas Nuerin
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Posted - 2006.02.14 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Stems I've recently tried a few lv 4's, and I find I can kill everything fine, but the problems are with the small frigs; they take way too long for me to kill, my setup is below, any help is appreciated:
High 6x Arba Siege 2x 150mm --------------- Medium Gist B-Type 100mn AB Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster 2x Invul Field II 1x Rat Specific Hardener --------------- Low 4x PDS II 2x BCS II ---------------
I know it needs work, any suggestions will be appreciated as to what mods I should be looking to get or what to change. Thanks!
Originally by: Ralitge boyter Low 3x PDS II 3x BCS II
WTB: Raven with six low slots
Precision Cruise Missiles and medium drones are what you need.
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Sparky Dave2
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Posted - 2006.02.14 16:11:00 -
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Ok Best Raven Set up for Universal Level 4 Missions is:
High Slots:
6x Tech 2 Siege Launchers 1x Named Nos (Large) 1x (What ever you can fit in here after the rest)
Medium Slots:
3x Shield Hardners (Tech 2) 1x Shield Amp (the more % the better etc..) 1x Tech 2 X-large Shield booster (Or a nice named one) 1x Tech 2 Cap recharger
Low Slots:
3x Tech 2 PDU's (Power Diognostic Units) 1x Named Co-proccessor (Pref around 16%)(If you have trouble fitting the above in) 1x Tech 2 Ballistic Control unit
In drone Bay use Tech 2 Hammer Heads to kill frigs with ease.
And for god sake remove the dman After burner in mid slot!
Hope thats helped :D
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2006.02.14 16:42:00 -
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Strongly recommend switching to Cruise rather than Torps, for the following reason.
1. Torps are gimped against smaller targets even worse than cruise, particularly because the Guided Missile Precision skill does NOT affect Torps.
2. Factoring in rate of fire and the "gimping" your DPS with cruise will be only fractionally lower than Torps
3. More flexibility in terms of range...fit a sensor booster and pound your enemy from 150 km plus!
4. When you get to T2, you will find it hard to fit 6 T2 siege, but six T2 cruise is a doddle (interestingly I can find NO sensible setup that will allow me to fit SEVEN T2 siege launchers on a Caldari Navy Raven...again, 7 T2 cruise fit easily)
5. In general for missions, even when there are BS present, there are more hitpoints worth of cruisers (and smaller ships) "on screen" than hitpoints worth of battleships - thus if your main weapon is Torps, you are at a comparative disadvantage for more than half of the damage you are doing.
Comment about drones is well made...T2 ones are awesome in combat (expect a nerf soon )
Originally by: Avon Your sig is always a welcome sight... ...it means I've got to the end of your post.
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Krxon Blade
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Posted - 2006.02.14 23:23:00 -
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My l4 missions raven setup:
hi: 6 arb cruise + 2 heavy NOS med: 3 t2 shield hardeners or 3 t2 inv fields + XL sh booster + 30% sh boost enhancer + t2 target painter low: 3 PDU II + 2 BCU II
I can kill every BS with that and target painter helps alot against frigs or cruisers. For frigs I use 5 med interceptor drones.
I allways NOS 2 targets - close frigs or cruisers and BS at end.
Killing order: warpjammng frigs -> cruisers -> BSes -> rest of frigs -> sentries
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Stems
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Posted - 2006.02.15 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tomas Nuerin
Originally by: Stems I've recently tried a few lv 4's, and I find I can kill everything fine, but the problems are with the small frigs; they take way too long for me to kill, my setup is below, any help is appreciated:
High 6x Arba Siege 2x 150mm --------------- Medium Gist B-Type 100mn AB Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster 2x Invul Field II 1x Rat Specific Hardener --------------- Low 4x PDS II 2x BCS II ---------------
I know it needs work, any suggestions will be appreciated as to what mods I should be looking to get or what to change. Thanks!
Originally by: Ralitge boyter Low 3x PDS II 3x BCS II
WTB: Raven with six low slots
Precision Cruise Missiles and medium drones are what you need.
lol oops must of been dreaming
Again the setups are appreciated and will hopefully help more people then just myself
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Natalia Jagermeifter
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Posted - 2006.02.15 05:05:00 -
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If you are fighting serpentis, just fit a large smartbomb. Serpentis inties orbit under 5km making them smartbomb fodder.
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2006.02.15 05:50:00 -
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Quick semi OT comment on the offesive AB, back when missiles were slow and dualies were still permitted, one of Omega Corp's favoriet tricks was to MWD towards a target while unloading missiles. If you timed it right, the Raven kept pace with the missile stream, and every missile you fired hit the target all at the same time.
It was beautiful.
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2006.02.15 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tomas Nuerin Precision Cruise Missiles and medium drones are what you need.
Precision cruise are still at least 2000 ISK per missile...sorry, but I run missions to MAKE money, not spend it.
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SurVie
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Posted - 2006.02.15 11:48:00 -
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i used the following setup in the days that i still ran missions....
6x cruise launcher II's 2x heavy diminishing nos
4x shield hardeners II (kineticx2 and thermalx2) 1x shield amp 1x xlarge c5-L
4x pdu II 1x ballistic control unit I
could do most missions solo before the latest patch, however i used to have trouble with the drone missions. But this setup pretty much made me able to do most missions solo. =============================================
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Derrys
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Posted - 2006.02.15 18:41:00 -
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I think a lot of people don't appreciate how useful speed can be in missions. Being able to keep the tactical initiative helps an awful lot, especially against the heavy hitters. The setup I use:
High 6 x 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launchers 2 x 125mm Prototype Gauss Gun
Medium 1 x 100MN Afterburner II 1 x XL Shield Booster II 1 x Shield Boost Amplifier 3 x T2 shield hardeners
Low 5 x Local Hull Conversion Nanofiber
Drones 7 x T2 mediums (usually Vespa IIs, but occasionally a different type, depending on the mission).
For some missions, especially those where I know I'll be webbed quickly and speed will be a moot point for the bulk of the mission, I'll swap out the nanofibers for power diagnostics or ballistic control systems. But for the majority, being able to dictate the terms of the fight is a huge advantage.
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Galea Wildfang
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Posted - 2006.02.15 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tomas Nuerin
WTB: Raven with six low slots
It's called 'Rattlesnake' and looks like a scorp
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AcheLone
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Posted - 2006.02.28 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Mable I only use Cruise Missile Launcher II. With Cruise Missile Spec at level 4 i can kill all including the 2.5Mil BS in Vengeance. And instead of the 150mm Rails I use Medium Beam Laser II because they need no Ammo :-)
mable.....if u still reading, can u post some damage for this. really interested in looking at it.
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Sylaan
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Posted - 2006.02.28 08:30:00 -
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Here's my general Raven setup, which I adjust a bit depending on the mission. As a rule of thumb I stay away from Afterburners, sensor boosters, webbers, painters. IMHO, for level 4 missions, they are a waste of medium slot. I will try to explain why I sa this: - AB: The raven is VERY slow, an AB will just make it .. slow. You wont get away from interceptors, from frigates, from most of the cruisers, from some BS'es. Besides, in almost all missions I stay put. Very nice for looting too. - Sensor boosters: ok, so you lock that frigate couple of seconds faster. And then ? Slot wasted for the duration of the fight. The missions where you really NEED to lock faster/farther are not many. - Webbers, painters: from my experience they are close to useless. The new missile guide (http://www.eve-online.com/guide/en/g27.asp) is awesome. Use it, test different setups and you'll see that the effect of 1 webber or 1 painter is nothing to write home about. Not to mention that I had really bad experience with webbers, my drones could not hit at ALL the frigate.
That being said, here is my setup: High: - 6x T2 cruise lauchers - 2x Heavy Diminishing NOS'es Medium - 1x T2 Large shield booster - 1x T2 LArge shield extender - 1x Shield boost amplifier - 3x T2 hardners Low - 2x T2 BCUs - 3x T2 PDUs Drone bay: - 5x T1 Vespas (kinetic damage)
This gets adjusted depending on mission. I may put in another hardner and take out the extender or amplifier, I may put in a Drone Augmentation instead of a NOS (Vengeance), I may put in a warp core, etc
My 2 ISK ;)
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Tomas Nuerin
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Posted - 2006.02.28 08:38:00 -
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Edited by: Tomas Nuerin on 28/02/2006 08:39:36
I've had CNR so long time that it was time to test L4's with regular Raven with reasonable priced setup. Here is how I fitted it:
6x Cruise Launcher II E500 Heavy Nosferatu
Gist C-Type Large Booster Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amp 3x Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II
PDS II 4x BCU II
Seems to be working fine with L4's. Killed even that 2,5M rat (Rachen Mysuna?) in Vengeance last stage. |
Tomas Nuerin
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Posted - 2006.02.28 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Grey Area
Originally by: Tomas Nuerin Precision Cruise Missiles and medium drones are what you need.
Precision cruise are still at least 2000 ISK per missile...sorry, but I run missions to MAKE money, not spend it.
Well. I use Precision Missiles against cruisers and frigates. They save a lot of mission running time and time is money .
My mission income comes mostly from LP rewards and BS bounties. Faster missions = more LP = more isk. |
Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2006.02.28 15:10:00 -
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Why not put a couple of 125 rails in high, to help the drones killing the frigs while pounding on the bigger rats with cruise? And when you fight BS or cruisers at 20km or so, you can use spike ammo to kill the big rats a little faster.
Wasting 2 high slots on NOS seems such a waste, especially since you only get one drain from each NPC.
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Arcticblue2
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Posted - 2006.03.01 01:38:00 -
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Highslot: 6x Cruisemissile launchers (usually just tech 1 .. because lets face it lvl 4 is not that hard). 1x Blaster medium type .. your pick 1x Heavy Nos... (named if you like).
Medium Slot: 1x Large shield booster 4x Active tech 2 shield hardners (usually like 2 heat and 2 kin and so on... you know depending on what mission I run). 1x Shield booster amplifier
Lowslot: 2x Warp core Stabs.. (yes it have saved my ships many times from warpscrambling frigs). 3x PDU's.
Pack medium drones for close defence with the blaster...
I do most missions solo, missions I have had problem with is missions like Right hand of Zazzmatazz.. and a couple of others, usually just warp out a few times. No problem taking out 2 mill rats with this one, and a few modification and you even fight PvP with this one.
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2006.03.01 05:25:00 -
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Question about the shield tanks. I'm seeing a large number of people fitting various Large Shield Boosters, yet many people say you need an XL to handle lvl 4s. How does the Large Shield Booster tank handle?
Are we looking at tanks that work mostly because the Raven kills things before they can threaten it, or are these tanks that hold solid, even when clusters get right on top of you?
Harry Voyager
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Sylaan
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Posted - 2006.03.01 09:00:00 -
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From my experience I remember NOS'ing a rat several times if it's not a frigate.
And regarding the shield booster, the XL version eats a lot of cap. And that's with solid cap skills, shield booster reduction implant, etc. The large uses alot less cap and the tank holds fine with a shield boost amplifier.
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Mitens Nauro
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Posted - 2006.03.01 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: Arcticblue2 Highslot: 6x Cruisemissile launchers (usually just tech 1 .. because lets face it lvl 4 is not that hard).
Lowslot: 2x Warp core Stabs.. (yes it have saved my ships many times from warpscrambling frigs).
Why do you need to warp away if they are not that hard?
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Arcticblue2
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Posted - 2006.03.01 09:28:00 -
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Edited by: Arcticblue2 on 01/03/2006 09:30:30
Originally by: Mitens Nauro
Originally by: Arcticblue2 Highslot: 6x Cruisemissile launchers (usually just tech 1 .. because lets face it lvl 4 is not that hard).
Lowslot: 2x Warp core Stabs.. (yes it have saved my ships many times from warpscrambling frigs).
Why do you need to warp away if they are not that hard?
Well at some missions, not all there are warpscrambling frigs, and from time to time especially Cruisers can wrech havoc on your shield so as a extra securitymeasure ... fit WCS
Also... if you do missions in low sec, well then 2 wcs can save your butt from players.
EDIT: I did mention some missions like Right hand of Zazzmatazz where you warp straight into deadspace not through a gate... if you get too close and get warpscrambled you might be fubar.
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Wanten
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Posted - 2006.03.01 10:19:00 -
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6 t2 cruise 2 diminishing nos ---------------- 2 t2 invuls , 2 t2 chanagble hards (usually therm and em) Heavy cap injecter (800 charges) XL Large sheild booster II -------- 4 PDU II 1 BCU II
works a treat havnt head any trouble with any lvl 4 missions yet, except them damn hauler ones ----------------------------------------------- Please resize your forum signature graphic to be smaller than 24,000 bytes in filesize - Jacques
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