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Beorn Hakaari
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:35:00 -
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on the chopping block for promised additions on the Winter Expansion? The Assault Ship 4th bonus won't be included on release. I assume this is just the first of many said changes that will not be honored. Next will be FW(I mean who doesn't see it getting chopped off the "expansion"?) But at least we get 4 new BC hulls, and some other random fluff. :( |
Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:35:00 -
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let's keep this thread alive.
my vote is, of course, FW. |
Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:37:00 -
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WiS obviously |
XIRUSPHERE
In Bacon We Trust
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:39:00 -
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How's about you realize FIS is top priority for the first time in 2 years and this is just the beginning. Much respect to CCP for engaging the way they have been and re-tooling production to what players are asking for, it's no easy task. |
Beorn Hakaari
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:45:00 -
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XIRUSPHERE wrote:How's about you realize FIS is top priority for the first time in 2 years and this is just the beginning. Much respect to CCP for engaging the way they have been and re-tooling production to what players are asking for, it's no easy task.
i wonder how much of what players have been asking for will make it into release? God forbid they delay the changes to hybrids, I imagine things would get crazy. Some people actually get excited for changes, and additions. Shouldn't even make a reference to a game change or addition if there is a possibility it won't get implemented. After all, you lose your credibility because anything you say could be just another falsehood. |
Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:46:00 -
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How do you know ? |
Swordfingers
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:47:00 -
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As far as I remember, CCP didn't promise to iterate on AF in the winter expansion, they only claimed, that they are working on it. If you have some different information, then sauce plz. |
Beorn Hakaari
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:47:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote: How do you know ?
How do I know what? That Assault Ship changes aren't going to make it to release?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=301776#post301776
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Black Dranzer
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:49:00 -
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I'm reserving judgement until I see what (if any) nullsec/FW changes are coming. |
Beorn Hakaari
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:49:00 -
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Swordfingers wrote:As far as I remember, CCP didn't promise to iterate on AF in the winter expansion, they only claimed, that they are working on it. If you have some different information, then sauce plz.
EVE Online-¦s Winter 2011 expansion will be themed around improvements to warfare and PVP. We will be talking more specifically about each of the features and items in the coming weeks but, for now, hereGÇÿs an overview of what functionality, systems and gameplay weGÇÿre going to improve and add to.
Assault ships is 3rd on the list, under Hybrid weapons balancing and Factional warfare. I know nothing is set in stone but its a big disappointment at the very least.
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2428 |
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XIRUSPHERE
In Bacon We Trust
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Posted - 2011.11.03 21:55:00 -
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Beorn Hakaari wrote:XIRUSPHERE wrote:How's about you realize FIS is top priority for the first time in 2 years and this is just the beginning. Much respect to CCP for engaging the way they have been and re-tooling production to what players are asking for, it's no easy task. i wonder how much of what players have been asking for will make it into release? God forbid they delay the changes to hybrids, I imagine things would get crazy. Some people actually get excited for changes, and additions. Shouldn't even make a reference to a game change or addition if there is a possibility it won't get implemented. After all, you lose your credibility because anything you say could be just another falsehood.
Oh I dunno, sacking 20% of your work force seems to send a pretty clear message that attitudes are changing and the new direction is make or break. Im pleased that Navigator came out and said as much about assault frigates in a very frank and fast manner rather than beat around the bush for weeks.
In the number of years I have spent eyeballing the forums even when my account was inactive I have never seen so much interaction with the community and relevant information shared. For once im going to give them a chance and see where it goes with some confidence. |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
183
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Posted - 2011.11.03 22:01:00 -
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remmember that thing we all wanted with expansions? u know the "when its ready release it" instead of " 50% is done and 50% is buggy but we hit the deadline release it"
just because its not on release doesnt meant its not in the expansion. |
Beorn Hakaari
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.03 22:02:00 -
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XIRUSPHERE wrote:Beorn Hakaari wrote:XIRUSPHERE wrote:How's about you realize FIS is top priority for the first time in 2 years and this is just the beginning. Much respect to CCP for engaging the way they have been and re-tooling production to what players are asking for, it's no easy task. i wonder how much of what players have been asking for will make it into release? God forbid they delay the changes to hybrids, I imagine things would get crazy. Some people actually get excited for changes, and additions. Shouldn't even make a reference to a game change or addition if there is a possibility it won't get implemented. After all, you lose your credibility because anything you say could be just another falsehood. Oh I dunno, sacking 20% of your work force seems to send a pretty clear message that attitudes are changing and the new direction is make or break. Im pleased that Navigator came out and said as much about assault frigates in a very frank and fast manner rather than beat around the bush for weeks. In the number of years I have spent eyeballing the forums even when my account was inactive I have never seen so much interaction with the community and relevant information shared. For once im going to give them a chance and see where it goes with some confidence.
Your only seeing interaction at this level because they figured **** was about to hit the fan and they could lose a larger portion of their player base. This interaction will not last, not how it currently is. It will go back to normal once everyone is koo'd by whatever content is released. Its like when you and your woman have a fight or heated argument. you kiss, make up and some make up sex. Its all great sex, but after a week its back to the same cold pootang. |
The Apostle
The Black Priests
812
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Posted - 2011.11.03 22:08:00 -
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Beorn Hakaari wrote:on the chopping block for promised additions on the Winter Expansion? The Assault Ship 4th bonus won't be included on release. I assume this is just the first of many said changes that will not be honored. Next will be FW(I mean who doesn't see it getting chopped off the "expansion"?) But at least we get 4 new BC hulls, and some other random fluff. :( Did you actually read the thread? Assault ships WILL be honored - just not in the first release.
But yeah. If they'd done Assault ships and not the new BC's there'd be another thread whining about that instead.
They were doing WiS instead of FiS, they got blasted, so they did FiS instead of WiS. They get blasted.
Round and round we go......
Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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Beorn Hakaari
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2011.11.03 22:11:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:Beorn Hakaari wrote:on the chopping block for promised additions on the Winter Expansion? The Assault Ship 4th bonus won't be included on release. I assume this is just the first of many said changes that will not be honored. Next will be FW(I mean who doesn't see it getting chopped off the "expansion"?) But at least we get 4 new BC hulls, and some other random fluff. :( Did you actually read the thread? Assault ships WILL be honored - just not in the first release. But yeah. If they'd done Assault ships and not the new BC's there'd be another thread whining about that instead. They were doing WiS instead of FiS, they got blasted, so they did FiS instead of WiS. They get blasted. Round and round we go......
Yes I read it, but that is a vague answer "not in the first release" It could be X number of expansions later, and that would still be a valid and correct answer. Hell they said it would be added in the Expansion, and now they are saying it will be added in a further release. What am i to believe? |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.11.03 22:12:00 -
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Engine trails may not be making it this expansion either though they where never exactly promised either. |
Callic Veratar
Power of the Phoenix
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Posted - 2011.11.03 22:12:00 -
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Beorn Hakaari wrote:EVE Online-¦s Winter 2011 expansion will be themed around improvements to warfare and PVP. We will be talking more specifically about each of the features and items in the coming weeks but, for now, hereGÇÿs an overview of what functionality, systems and gameplay weGÇÿre going to improve and add to. Assault ships is 3rd on the list, under Hybrid weapons balancing and Factional warfare. I know nothing is set in stone but its a big disappointment at the very least. http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2428
You mean the list that's immediately followed by this:
Quote:I want to make it clear that this is not a final list. As we go through design and implementation phases some things may require more work than initially expected and others may not hold water in the design phase and therefore may not make it into this particular expansion.
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Beorn Hakaari
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.03 22:13:00 -
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Callic Veratar wrote:Beorn Hakaari wrote:Swordfingers wrote:As far as I remember, CCP didn't promise to iterate on AF in the winter expansion, they only claimed, that they are working on it. If you have some different information, then sauce plz. EVE Online-¦s Winter 2011 expansion will be themed around improvements to warfare and PVP. We will be talking more specifically about each of the features and items in the coming weeks but, for now, hereGÇÿs an overview of what functionality, systems and gameplay weGÇÿre going to improve and add to. Assault ships is 3rd on the list, under Hybrid weapons balancing and Factional warfare. I know nothing is set in stone but its a big disappointment at the very least. http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2428 You mean the list that's immediately followed by this: Quote:I want to make it clear that this is not a final list. As we go through design and implementation phases some things may require more work than initially expected and others may not hold water in the design phase and therefore may not make it into this particular expansion.
Yes, and i even stated I knew nothing was set in stone but it was a big disappointment.
"Assault ships is 3rd on the list, under Hybrid weapons balancing and Factional warfare. I know nothing is set in stone but its a big disappointment at the very least." |
Chi Ftele
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.11.03 22:18:00 -
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oh no, I sure hope they don't axe the new bc3s, I love short range high damage weapons
my money's on Walking in stations, because flying is cooler than walking That is all. |
Alex Sinai
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
54
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Posted - 2011.11.03 22:19:00 -
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How nice. So they announced a big time changes and slowly taking away most of it. Now there's no 4th bonus to assaults and probably FW wont be anyhow improved. I will not be surprised if all they release for Winter will be CQs and 4 BCs in addition to new cool Nebula jpegs and old cool engine trails.
What a shitstorm it will be then i can imagine. |
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Darren Udan
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.03 23:25:00 -
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Beorn Hakaari wrote:on the chopping block for promised additions on the Winter Expansion? The Assault Ship 4th bonus won't be included on release. I assume this is just the first of many said changes that will not be honored. Next will be FW(I mean who doesn't see it getting chopped off the "expansion"?) But at least we get 4 new BC hulls, and some other random fluff. :(
And don't forget, even if we don't get much we got Engine trails and Nebulae! BTW You stole my portrait, our chars are so close in creation date we could be twins... |
Marz Ghola
Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2011.11.03 23:30:00 -
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I'm still chuffed that wis took it in the pooper.
ccp is going back into the right direction, so here's hoping FW GETS THE LOVE! |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.03 23:36:00 -
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Alex Sinai wrote:How nice. So they announced a big time changes and slowly taking away most of it. Now there's no 4th bonus to assaults and probably FW wont be anyhow improved. I will not be surprised if all they release for Winter will be CQs and 4 BCs in addition to new cool Nebula jpegs and old cool engine trails.
What a shitstorm it will be then i can imagine. That would require them to work backwards as Hybrids and caps/supercaps are being changed. Ship spinning is back, font is on sisi and new mods have already been seen in internal builds, TiDi looked close to completion as well, though that still leaves a third of the list that we haven't seen follow up blogs on.
Also, when did they confirm AF's were supposed to be getting a 4th bonus, not that it would be unwelcome? |
Darren Udan
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.03 23:37:00 -
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Marz Ghola wrote:I'm still chuffed that wis took it in the pooper. ccp is going back into the right direction, so here's hoping FW GETS THE LOVE!
I think if FW got some nice changes it may even help out Low Sec systems in some odd proxy buff or something. But that would be yea. Lost my train of thought mescaline kickin in.\ nvm |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
221
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Posted - 2011.11.03 23:45:00 -
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you know they are going to stagger the release right? plus winder goes from dec 21-march 21 on the julian calander.
All they are saying is in Installment 1 af wont be in it.
so calm down and relax. Plus i never saw anything that promised AF in the initial release I have seen sometime in the winter and before the summer. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
194
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Posted - 2011.11.03 23:47:00 -
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Quote:Yes, and i even stated I knew nothing was set in stone but it was a big disappointment.
"Assault ships is 3rd on the list, under Hybrid weapons balancing and Factional warfare. I know nothing is set in stone but its a big disappointment at the very least."[/quote]
It really doesn't matter how patiently they try to explain things, some tool is going to put words in their mouth. Your disclaimer that you knew nothing was set in stone is worthless in the face of your original post.
Quote:on the chopping block for promised additions on the Winter Expansion? The Assault Ship 4th bonus won't be included on release. I assume this is just the first of many said changes that will not be honored. Next will be FW(I mean who doesn't see it getting chopped off the "expansion"?) But at least we get 4 new BC hulls, and some other random fluff. :(
By your own admission you knew full well that the list provided wasn't promised to all arrive in the Winter Expansion, yet you insinuate that it was to make your post more controversial.
You know what... **** off.
To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Beorn Hakaari
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2011.11.03 23:57:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:Yes, and i even stated I knew nothing was set in stone but it was a big disappointment.
Quote:"Assault ships is 3rd on the list, under Hybrid weapons balancing and Factional warfare. I know nothing is set in stone but its a big disappointment at the very least." It really doesn't matter how patiently they try to explain things, some tool is going to put words in their mouth. Your disclaimer that you knew nothing was set in stone is worthless in the face of your original post. Quote:on the chopping block for promised additions on the Winter Expansion? The Assault Ship 4th bonus won't be included on release. I assume this is just the first of many said changes that will not be honored. Next will be FW(I mean who doesn't see it getting chopped off the "expansion"?) But at least we get 4 new BC hulls, and some other random fluff. :( By your own admission you knew full well that the list provided wasn't promised to all arrive in the Winter Expansion, yet you insinuate that it was to make your post more controversial. You know what... **** off.
My aim wasn't to make my post more controversial, but to offer my opinion on how things are going. I don't get the point you are trying to make, maybe you are just a mouth breathing troll and are trying to troll me. Thanks for bumping the thread and spreading my opinion on the expansion though. And for future trolls, I am dissatified, I'm not trying to make any other point that than. Stay frosty please. |
Beorn Hakaari
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2011.11.04 00:00:00 -
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Darren Udan wrote:Marz Ghola wrote:I'm still chuffed that wis took it in the pooper. ccp is going back into the right direction, so here's hoping FW GETS THE LOVE! I think if FW got some nice changes it may even help out Low Sec systems in some odd proxy buff or something. But that would be yea. Lost my train of thought mescaline kickin in.\ nvm
Mescaline, it's the only way to fly. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
194
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Posted - 2011.11.04 00:10:00 -
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Beorn Hakaari wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:Yes, and i even stated I knew nothing was set in stone but it was a big disappointment.
Quote:"Assault ships is 3rd on the list, under Hybrid weapons balancing and Factional warfare. I know nothing is set in stone but its a big disappointment at the very least." It really doesn't matter how patiently they try to explain things, some tool is going to put words in their mouth. Your disclaimer that you knew nothing was set in stone is worthless in the face of your original post. Quote:on the chopping block for promised additions on the Winter Expansion? The Assault Ship 4th bonus won't be included on release. I assume this is just the first of many said changes that will not be honored. Next will be FW(I mean who doesn't see it getting chopped off the "expansion"?) But at least we get 4 new BC hulls, and some other random fluff. :( By your own admission you knew full well that the list provided wasn't promised to all arrive in the Winter Expansion, yet you insinuate that it was to make your post more controversial. You know what... **** off. My aim wasn't to make my post more controversial, but to offer my opinion on how things are going. I don't get the point you are trying to make, maybe you are just a mouth breathing troll and are trying to troll me. Thanks for bumping the thread and spreading my opinion on the expansion though. And for future trolls, I am dissatified, I'm not trying to make any other point that than. Stay frosty please.
When you offer your opinion couched in a blatant lie that would make you a better candidate for the troll accusation than I.
I trust my point in now sufficiently clear. To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
99
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Posted - 2011.11.04 09:31:00 -
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No.
I meant: How do you know they will omit other stuff too.
Pure speculation. Including the What-will-be-omitted-next.
You started a thread out of pure speculation, hence stupidity, because there's no real reason at all.
Just because your stupid ego had the need to do it, and you didn't even realize that it was a dumb thing to start this thread, because it makes you look like an idiot.
Congratulations.
Get out of my gene pool. |
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