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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
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Posted - 2013.11.30 18:41:00 -
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The greatness of a PVP player is merely determined by the timeframe in between his decision to kill something and the moment his target(s) pop. What do the conditions matter to anyone but that PVP-er himself? Be it his wealth and SP that allow him to fly something fancy, be it his ton of friends... whatever he brings to the table, he evidently deserves to have it. And if you have it, what purpose does it serve not to use it? You can't really judge anyone else's efficiency... efficiency for what? I know their KB stats will deteriorate as soon as pilots tends to certain matters that put them at risk, even if the objective they gunned for was achieved. A phyrric victory is still a victory, and the damn stats don't even mention who held the field at the end and got all the delicious loot. Any relevance to ISK destroyed and what dropped is quite useless without the full context.
IMO a great PVP-er can get past that bureaucracy and have a good time shooting and other ships, making as few pilot errors and engagement mistakes as possible. And he spends most of his time either doing that or planning for it, improving himself every time. |
Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
172
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Posted - 2013.12.01 00:56:00 -
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Pew Terror wrote:Chessur wrote:I have a blog post on this toipc exactly. For the TL;DR its basically this: People who are good at PvP generally fly ships that have a large engagement profile. Flying ships like these, speaks to the pilots ability to play the meta- and allows the pilot to engage many of the fleets / ships he or she comes across. http://evestealthbomber.blogspot.com/2013/07/what-makes-good-eve-pvper.html I see you posting a lot, but im not sure if you are a troll... You talk a lot about solo PvP, but when checking your killboard all one can see you do is blapping frigs in a fotm cerb...
Not fotm anymore how u like the reload time? |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
854
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Posted - 2013.12.02 14:59:00 -
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Nyan Lafisques wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Being able to kill people when your friends are not around. There are a lot of so called elite pvprs with 60 to 1 k/d ratios or higher but not a single kill ever made solo. Have even seen people with 1000+ kills and less than 50 losses and I doubt they could fight their way out of an ibis gank.
A good pver will not always have a good kill board, they'll have good kills.
Also I don't say this intending to suggest I'm particularly great I generally suck at PvP :) Killboard stats means nothing by themselves. Proof: I haz gr8 kb, i sux. Yeah the number 1 on battleclinic atm has about 50 : 1 kill death vs MTUs |
Hrett
Justified Chaos
259
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:40:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Nyan Lafisques wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Being able to kill people when your friends are not around. There are a lot of so called elite pvprs with 60 to 1 k/d ratios or higher but not a single kill ever made solo. Have even seen people with 1000+ kills and less than 50 losses and I doubt they could fight their way out of an ibis gank.
A good pver will not always have a good kill board, they'll have good kills.
Also I don't say this intending to suggest I'm particularly great I generally suck at PvP :) Killboard stats means nothing by themselves. Proof: I haz gr8 kb, i sux. Yeah the number 1 on battleclinic atm has about 50 : 1 kill death vs MTUs
Yeah, they need to fix that. I'm probably typing on an iPad, which means the auto-correct is silly and fixing typos is a pain. I ain't fixing them. |
Pew Terror
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
31
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Posted - 2013.12.02 19:32:00 -
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Gorski Car wrote:Pew Terror wrote:Chessur wrote:I have a blog post on this toipc exactly. For the TL;DR its basically this: People who are good at PvP generally fly ships that have a large engagement profile. Flying ships like these, speaks to the pilots ability to play the meta- and allows the pilot to engage many of the fleets / ships he or she comes across. http://evestealthbomber.blogspot.com/2013/07/what-makes-good-eve-pvper.html I see you posting a lot, but im not sure if you are a troll... You talk a lot about solo PvP, but when checking your killboard all one can see you do is blapping frigs in a fotm cerb... Not fotm anymore how u like the reload time?
What kind of frigs are you flying that take 16 Cerb RL volleys on the chin? |
The Lobsters
WE FIGHT
57
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:48:00 -
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A good pvper will both be on his corps top killers list and top losers list. That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested his claim. |
Kenrailae
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
68
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Posted - 2013.12.03 01:52:00 -
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Open ended question....
Deserves an open ended answer.
Depends what you do.
Sometimes it's experience, sometimes luck.
Sometimes it's picking the right fights, sometimes it's going all in and hoping for the best.
Sometimes it's having fun, sometimes it's achieving the strategic objective.
Sometimes it's KB stats, sometimes it's losing a ship.
Sometimes it's knowing what is going on and what everything does, sometimes it's not knowing.
Most the time it's being able to adapt and make the right snap judgments. And when you don't make the right call, learn from it. Most the time it's having fun cause it's a game, but being serious enough to have fun. No one likes losing all the time. Some times a loss is one of the best fights you'll ever have though.
It's not always the same mix of the above. Sometimes it's just getting plain lucky and capitalizing on that luck.
All in all though, it's a bit of all of it, and a deficit too. Have fun, learn, be willing to try new things, but don't try to fix things that ain't broke. The Law is a point of View |
Gorski Car
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
173
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Posted - 2013.12.03 11:35:00 -
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Pew Terror wrote:Gorski Car wrote:Pew Terror wrote:Chessur wrote:I have a blog post on this toipc exactly. For the TL;DR its basically this: People who are good at PvP generally fly ships that have a large engagement profile. Flying ships like these, speaks to the pilots ability to play the meta- and allows the pilot to engage many of the fleets / ships he or she comes across. http://evestealthbomber.blogspot.com/2013/07/what-makes-good-eve-pvper.html I see you posting a lot, but im not sure if you are a troll... You talk a lot about solo PvP, but when checking your killboard all one can see you do is blapping frigs in a fotm cerb... Not fotm anymore how u like the reload time? What kind of frigs are you flying that take 16 Cerb RL volleys on the chin?
one that warps after 8 volleys and leave you unable to kill my friend before reload. Or just about any linked t2 frig
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Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
500
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Posted - 2013.12.03 15:54:00 -
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All your killboards are ****, learn 2 play #winning .
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Baali Tekitsu
Herrscher der Zeit Test Alliance Please Ignore
425
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:11:00 -
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Nyan Lafisques wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Being able to kill people when your friends are not around. There are a lot of so called elite pvprs with 60 to 1 k/d ratios or higher but not a single kill ever made solo. Have even seen people with 1000+ kills and less than 50 losses and I doubt they could fight their way out of an ibis gank.
A good pver will not always have a good kill board, they'll have good kills.
Also I don't say this intending to suggest I'm particularly great I generally suck at PvP :) Killboard stats means nothing by themselves. Proof: I haz gr8 kb, i sux.
Second proof: I haz bad kb, but Im gr8 RATE LIKE SUBSCRIBE |
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