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SoapyTits
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2013.11.22 13:55:00 -
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I love how TEST can turn ppl against each other, and just rub it in our faces like that just love it! |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
603
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Posted - 2013.11.22 15:06:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote:Princess Nexxala wrote:ZheoTheThird wrote: 1250ISK/LP Wow I actually feel sorry for you guys now. I hadn't realized things were so bad for TEST. You guys need a loan? I mean, first of all, 1250 is for calmil, testies get 1350. I don't quite understand - upon market analysis I've come to the conclusion that while a few items are going for 1500+, these are low volume ones. The majority are between 1000 and 1500 right now. Trading the high margin ones works in a small militia, but unleashing a thousand testies on the market would make the prices tank within days. The alliance payout of 1350 spreads the LP on more items, even the less profitable ones. This prevents us from crashing the market instantly. While it hurts individual income short term, it makes it more sustainable by keeping the prices from dropping. I am totally fine with making only 200m/hr because if we keep that up a month, I can plex my accounts until the end of days. But since you have a superior knowledge of economic mechanics, especially in FW, you've come to the same conclusion, so this post isn't directed at you directly, but more to a couple of logic-resistant naysayers who apparently missed their economy 101 classes in high school.
It depends how fast you need ISK - a lot of people wait for the pendulum to swing and slowly sell closer to 3k (I'm pretty lazy about my items and making LP in general, but I am pushing around 3k ISK/LP right now on high LP items (meaning less units to sell), only about 13,000,000 LP left to sell).
No troll, I am seriously rooting for test to keep T4 for at least another few months. I have quite a backlog of LP to sell.
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Rockenator
State Protectorate Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.11.25 14:35:00 -
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Faife wrote:If you're finding yourself not making enough money as a Gallente, come join the new and improved Caldari faction militia. Tier 3 benefits and higher rewards available to all, even the newest recruits.
Don't waste your time plexing at T1 benefits. Make real isk at T3.
Remember, AWOXing Gallente guarantees citizenship and pays isk now.
UPDATE: soz, we're T4 now. you guys are bad.
Encouraging awoxing? Really test? This is low, even for you. |
Rockenator
State Protectorate Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.11.25 14:41:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote:Tetsuo Tsukaya wrote:Faife wrote: Remember, AWOXing Gallente guarantees citizenship .
Holy ****. Are you seriously stealing Pizza's tag line after they used that same line to promote awoxing within TEST as they trolled you guys right out of sov? If you seriously think that pizza was the reason that we left Delve, then you must have overlooked that huge orange blob on the map that's usually titled "CFC" Pizza were bros. Bros who loved bombing us, but bros. Also, the quote originally came from Starship Trooper, but since we're redditors we love ripping stuff off.
I think not, Starship Troopers was about enlisting for your country, not about betrayal !!! |
Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
42
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Posted - 2013.11.25 15:04:00 -
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I would never convert my LP for less than 2200ISK/LP |
March rabbit
True Horde
887
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Posted - 2013.11.25 15:25:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote:Princess Nexxala wrote:ZheoTheThird wrote: 1250ISK/LP Wow I actually feel sorry for you guys now. I hadn't realized things were so bad for TEST. You guys need a loan? I mean, first of all, 1250 is for calmil, testies get 1350. I don't quite understand - upon market analysis I've come to the conclusion that while a few items are going for 1500+, these are low volume ones. The majority are between 1000 and 1500 right now. Trading the high margin ones works in a small militia, but unleashing a thousand testies on the market would make the prices tank within days. The alliance payout of 1350 spreads the LP on more items, even the less profitable ones. This prevents us from crashing the market instantly. While it hurts individual income short term, it makes it more sustainable by keeping the prices from dropping. I am totally fine with making only 200m/hr because if we keep that up a month, I can plex my accounts until the end of days. But since you have a superior knowledge of economic mechanics, especially in FW, you've come to the same conclusion, so this post isn't directed at you directly, but more to a couple of logic-resistant naysayers who apparently missed their economy 101 classes in high school. i think ZheoTheThird's point is: rich people won't bother with such calculations
Personally i have never farmed LP and have never sold LPs i got from killing FW targets. I make more than enough ISK without all this effort Null people are like a kid who broke his own toy and is jealous about another kid that still has a new, shiny toy. In the kid's mind, the only way to happiness is to grab that shiny toy and break it so both kids are in equal misery.
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ZheoTheThird
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
183
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Posted - 2013.11.25 15:43:00 -
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Charlie Firpol wrote:I would never convert my LP for less than 2200ISK/LP The difference is that we're getting 4.5 times as much LP as you (provided we actually hold T4). So if we both spend an equal time farming (ugh, farming, I know), I'm making well over twice the ISK you're making, even though I sell out my LP for way under market value. Gallente LP is traditionally worth more as FW missions suck and gallente seem to be constantly T2/T1 anyways whereas caldari LP farming is as easy as it gets.
If you spent some time researching the caldari market, you'd very quickly see that 1500 at the moment is actually pretty damn good while 1350 is still reasonable. There is no way to convert calmil LP for 2200ISK/LP right now without you having to wait a month until your oders fill. |
Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
43
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Posted - 2013.11.25 15:54:00 -
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Thats why I stockpile during those times when GalMil has T4 or T3. The pendulum swings often enough and I am a lazy, cheap ass. I hate farming and I fly cheap ships. I have never tried out FW missions.
Being in Gallente isnt as bad as you think though, I remember when we were at T4 it was quite hard to find quiet systems that were not yet very near to 100% contested. And when I do farm LP, I dont want to pay attention to the screen.
A friend of mine joined EVE at that time, he was wtching some TV series while plexing, he payed for EVE exactly once and is since then plexing his accounts. He has godlike patience. I would go crazy with so much orbiting xD |
Cromwell Savage
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
152
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Posted - 2013.11.25 15:59:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote: The difference is that we're getting 4.5 times as much LP as you (provided we actually hold T4).
No you're not....
Those of us that actually know how FW works and cycles (you didn't really want T5 anyways right???)....have the means to "diversify" our LP gains when the pendulum shifts...
I thank you for your assistance
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ZheoTheThird
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
183
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Posted - 2013.11.25 18:17:00 -
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Cromwell Savage wrote:ZheoTheThird wrote: The difference is that we're getting 4.5 times as much LP as you (provided we actually hold T4).
No you're not.... Those of us that actually know how FW works and cycles (you didn't really want T5 anyways right???)....have the means to "diversify" our LP gains when the pendulum shifts... I thank you for your assistance Yes, we are. I know that the smarter ones of you lads have a calmil alt, but since I don't know the numbers on these, I don't count them in in my calculation. |
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Cromwell Savage
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
152
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Posted - 2013.11.25 18:33:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote: but since I don't know the numbers on these, I don't count them in in my calculation.
And that is why you continue to think you are accomplishing something "special"....
Keep up the good work!!!! |
Zah Damaja
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
84
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:36:00 -
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I didn't realize winning faction warfare would be so easy.
Good job TEST and CalMil! Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter GÇ£A leader leads by example, not by forceGÇ¥-á-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
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Roime
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
3707
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Posted - 2013.11.27 08:34:00 -
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Zah Damaja wrote:I didn't realize winning faction warfare would be so easy.
Good job TEST and CalMil!
You never reached T5, already dropped to T3 and very soon down to T2. You are worthless even by your own irrrelevant standards of FW sov holding Notify-á-á You cannot do that while warping. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1720
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Posted - 2013.11.28 01:14:00 -
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Roime wrote:Zah Damaja wrote:I didn't realize winning faction warfare would be so easy.
Good job TEST and CalMil! You never reached T5, already dropped to T3 and very soon down to T2. You are worthless even by your own irrrelevant standards of FW sov holding So what you're saying is that plexing noobs will now make better isk/hour in Gallente militia - even if we're only at Tier 1 (have you seen FDU LP store prices lately?). Will probably be like that for a long while since TEST has a boat load of faction items to sell over a very long time period.
If TEST and Caldari FW are a noob's best friend, then I'd hate to see their enemy.
We in Gallente militia promise nothing except fights for our noobs. And you'll be able to make some isk for yourselves as well (and not for TEST).
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Anya Klibor
Error-404 Cup Of ConKrete.
536
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Posted - 2013.11.28 03:59:00 -
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Hey guys! Did you hear TEST lost sov and are now joining CalMil?
:slowpoke: |
Ozymandias Hamalia
Dead Naga Storage
0
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Posted - 2013.11.29 20:58:00 -
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I have never done FW. How is everyone supposedly making all this isk? LP for what? Ships? Mods? I might try it as I'm so very new here.
Can someone post a screenshot? If it is ships how do you move them into a market hub? Courier contracts? Fly them yourselves?
I've watched a few videos on You Tube but it only shows plexing and stuff. Never what you actually have to do to get rewarded. |
ZheoTheThird
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
193
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Posted - 2013.11.29 22:57:00 -
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I declare this the new TEST is bad thread, please keep all the sperg contained here.
Where were we? I wanted to quote some dude on how I measure success. Let me show you my little equation:
Success = FUN/HR.
That's it. FUN per HOUR. For those of you who know a little bit about formulas, the only statistic measurable ingame in this function is time. There's no killboards. No systems. No ISK. No sov. No fancy title.
It's about the fun. What that means to you - I don't know. That's your decision. I'd rather get smashed, go to VFK in an officer fit rifter and completely ruin my killboard efficiency than carefully plan my engagements, only taking those that I know I can win, and ending up waiting 99% of the time. That's just me. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Samurai Pizza Cats
753
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Posted - 2013.11.29 23:22:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote: ... than carefully plan my engagements, only taking those that I know I can win, and ending up waiting 99% of the time. That's just me.
Like when gallente spent a week warping into test fleets in eha 2/3 times our numbers. Though admittedly you are kinda correct, we did still win a disproportionate amount of those lol.
Also, this thread is very much out of date, what with calmil being in tier 2 at the moment. |
ZheoTheThird
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
193
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Posted - 2013.11.29 23:25:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:ZheoTheThird wrote: ... than carefully plan my engagements, only taking those that I know I can win, and ending up waiting 99% of the time. That's just me. Like when gallente spent a week warping into test fleets in eha 2/3 times our numbers. Though admittedly you are kinda correct, we did still win a disproportionate amount of those lol. Also, this thread is very much out of date, what with calmil being in tier 2 at the moment.
Hey, lower tier means higher prices, right? Good thing I banked up on like 3M LP, so much ISK now lolol. It's all about the home systems, and guess who's holding Innia? Yes, us. Go figure. Also, take a look at our killboard. See that red? That, my friend, is the red of victory. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Samurai Pizza Cats
753
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Posted - 2013.11.29 23:36:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:ZheoTheThird wrote: ... than carefully plan my engagements, only taking those that I know I can win, and ending up waiting 99% of the time. That's just me. Like when gallente spent a week warping into test fleets in eha 2/3 times our numbers. Though admittedly you are kinda correct, we did still win a disproportionate amount of those lol. Also, this thread is very much out of date, what with calmil being in tier 2 at the moment. Hey, lower tier means higher prices, right? Good thing I banked up on like 3M LP, so much ISK now lolol. It's all about the home systems, and guess who's holding Innia? Yes, us. Go figure. Also, take a look at our killboard. See that red? That, my friend, is the red of victory.
3m LP? lol |
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ZheoTheThird
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
193
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Posted - 2013.11.29 23:57:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:ZheoTheThird wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:ZheoTheThird wrote: ... than carefully plan my engagements, only taking those that I know I can win, and ending up waiting 99% of the time. That's just me. Like when gallente spent a week warping into test fleets in eha 2/3 times our numbers. Though admittedly you are kinda correct, we did still win a disproportionate amount of those lol. Also, this thread is very much out of date, what with calmil being in tier 2 at the moment. Hey, lower tier means higher prices, right? Good thing I banked up on like 3M LP, so much ISK now lolol. It's all about the home systems, and guess who's holding Innia? Yes, us. Go figure. Also, take a look at our killboard. See that red? That, my friend, is the red of victory. 3m LP? lol Actually, I've been secretly doing this for years and have about 100m LP saved. Freaking casuals lol |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1722
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Posted - 2013.11.30 00:57:00 -
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I guess this thread should now be called "You had your chance, we're no longer supplying Tier 4 benefits to our Caldari FW Bros." |
Garan Nardieu
Moira. Villore Accords
67
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Posted - 2013.11.30 10:32:00 -
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Considering the trend, IBTL. |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
207
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Posted - 2013.11.30 20:44:00 -
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cmon test weres my t4 benefits for ma alt he has children to feed ... they huuuuuuuuuuuungry
"We Need You" Donate now save a gals caldari alt today......... GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
ZheoTheThird
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
194
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Posted - 2013.12.01 05:55:00 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:cmon test weres my t4 benefits for ma alt he has children to feed ... they huuuuuuuuuuuungry
"We Need You" Donate now save a gals caldari alt today......... I'm sorry, but the title says Ex-Gallente, which you aren't. No benefits for you and your alts. Doesn't matter, I've started doing incursions until we're T4/T5 again, the ISK is just as good and way less risky |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
208
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Posted - 2013.12.01 06:35:00 -
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the alts ex gallente hes been in all factions
zheo wrote: Doesn't matter, I've started doing incursions until we're T4/T5 again, the ISK is just as good and way less risky
File this under "Didnt want those tiers neway" ??? GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
Roime
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
3725
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Posted - 2013.12.01 13:45:00 -
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Smells like farm here, don't you think
Notify-á-á You cannot do that while warping. |
Mabego Tetrimon
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
14
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Posted - 2013.12.01 21:13:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote: I've started doing incursions did not expect anything else from you....
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Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
57
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Posted - 2013.12.02 00:05:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote:I'm sorry, but the title says Ex-Gallente, which you aren't. No benefits for you and your alts. Doesn't matter, I've started doing incursions until we're T4/T5 again, the ISK is just as good and way less risky
Wait, Zheo the Great, Zheo the Magnificient, Forum Warrior and Damage Control Monkey Extraordinaire, has forsaken his Caldari Militia NewBro Brethren to sulk away and do incursions? Oh, the Humanity! Oh, the Angst! Oh, the Predictability!
It's ok, really. We knew that you nullbear wannabes wouldn't actually have the heart to stick it through to the end, and that you'd stop putting forth the effort to keep CalMil at a high tier and take the whole warzone once it became actual, yanno, effort. We further wish to congratulate TEST on their successful Eha offensive, you got it all the way up to the upper 30s before getting frustrated by small gangs in Kestrels of all things.
Looks like XG was right - nullbears come, nullbears front, nullbears slink away. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1723
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Posted - 2013.12.02 00:11:00 -
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Veskrashen wrote:Looks like XG was right - nullbears come, nullbears front, nullbears slink away. Actually, it's Scylus Black that says it. |
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