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The Wizz117
Posted - 2006.02.18 08:14:00 -
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i was talking abouch the small caldari carrier and its setup. and while we were chatting sombody noted that the crystal implants dont effect capital shield boosters, sombody saying it does, and what aboud slaves? do they effect capital ships? also sombody telling it does not effect the stats of the shield booster but it does give the shield boost bonus. could sombody run a few tests and give the final results ? i would be very happy.
Scribal
Posted - 2006.02.18 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: The Wizz117 i was talking abouch the small caldari carrier and its setup. and while we were chatting sombody noted that the crystal implants dont effect capital shield boosters, sombody saying it does, and what aboud slaves? do they effect capital ships? also sombody telling it does not effect the stats of the shield booster but it does give the shield boost bonus. could sombody run a few tests and give the final results ? i would be very happy. bump, i realy need to know this
Ortu Konsinni
Posted - 2006.02.18 14:43:00 -
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The answer to your question about the Slave implant set has been given in the same topic you're talking about, which you also started. I suggest you re-read it. ---Ship Gallery Helpdesk from Hell
Scribal
Posted - 2006.02.18 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ortu Konsinni The answer to your question about the Slave implant set has been given in the same topic you're talking about, which you also started. I suggest you re-read it. they say the slave implants effect capital ships. but there are also people wo say crystal implants does effect capital shield boosters, and people wo say it does not. that is why i dont trust the sources. i wand a clear answer from a capital ship pilot wo tested it and can say it with garantee. tough, a dev post would be even better to explain it
HippoKing
Posted - 2006.02.18 15:10:00 -
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Edited by: HippoKing on 18/02/2006 15:11:48 Originally by: Scribal Originally by: Ortu Konsinni The answer to your question about the Slave implant set has been given in the same topic you're talking about, which you also started. I suggest you re-read it. they say the slave implants effect capital ships. but there are also people wo say crystal implants does effect capital shield boosters, and people wo say it does not. that is why i dont trust the sources. i wand a clear answer from a capital ship pilot wo tested it and can say it with garantee tough, a dev post would be even better to explain it so, you're thewizz's alt? sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault
The Wizz117
Posted - 2006.02.18 15:11:00 -
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Edited by: The Wizz117 on 18/02/2006 15:11:42 Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: Scribal Originally by: Ortu Konsinni The answer to your question about the Slave implant set has been given in the same topic you're talking about, which you also started. I suggest you re-read it. they say the slave implants effect capital ships. but there are also people wo say crystal implants does effect capital shield boosters, and people wo say it does not. that is why i dont trust the sources. i wand a clear answer from a capital ship pilot wo tested it and can say it with garantee . tough, a dev post would be even better to explain it so, you're thewizz's alt? my brother's alt actualy ;) the logout function is ****** up and evrting is fat[/b]
The Wizz117
Posted - 2006.02.19 09:08:00 -
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now i had some sleep and i try to login again. it i keep seeying " cheking navigational systems" for 10 minutes. i can not write petition becouse it says i can only have 1 petition at the same time. and i can not update other petitiones
Jirad TiSalver
Posted - 2006.02.20 05:53:00 -
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i have tested the phoenix (caldari dread) with a full set of low-grade crystal implants and i have verified by having some friends get my shields down about half and then hitting my capital shield booster. Unfortuately i only got the default, 6400 hp of boost. Very disappointing . . .i have filed a bug report. Hope this helps. . . . .
The Wizz117
Posted - 2006.02.20 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jirad TiSalver i have tested the phoenix (caldari dread) with a full set of low-grade crystal implants and i have verified by having some friends get my shields down about half and then hitting my capital shield booster. Unfortuately i only got the default, 6400 hp of boost. Very disappointing . . .i have filed a bug report. Hope this helps. ill make a bug report to.
Meridius
Posted - 2006.02.20 07:35:00 -
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Originally by: The Wizz117 Originally by: Jirad TiSalver i have tested the phoenix (caldari dread) with a full set of low-grade crystal implants and i have verified by having some friends get my shields down about half and then hitting my capital shield booster. Unfortuately i only got the default, 6400 hp of boost. Very disappointing . . .i have filed a bug report. Hope this helps. ill make a bug report to. It's a feature but good luck with that _ __WE get EVERRYYWHHHEERREEEE!!1 - Imaran
The Wizz117
Posted - 2006.02.22 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius Originally by: The Wizz117 Originally by: Jirad TiSalver i have tested the phoenix (caldari dread) with a full set of low-grade crystal implants and i have verified by having some friends get my shields down about half and then hitting my capital shield booster. Unfortuately i only got the default, 6400 hp of boost. Very disappointing . . .i have filed a bug report. Hope this helps. ill make a bug report to. It's a feature but good luck with that if its a feature i should bug report it as a balancing problem. i heard slave implants do effect the capital ships ( armour tanking olrady has advantage becouse with capital ships its all aboud holding on as long as possible)
Active1313
Posted - 2006.02.22 18:20:00 -
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That's called sarcasm.... Their are no bugs in software only 'features'
HippoKing
Posted - 2006.02.22 18:28:00 -
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but for capital ships, the crystals would be MUCH more powerful than the slaves sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault
Sarmaul
Posted - 2006.02.22 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing but for capital ships, the crystals would be MUCH more powerful than the slaves then ccp needs to state that is the reason why they don't work, not just decide besides closed doors that crystal implants don't effect capital boosters and not tell anyone about it. as I've said time and time before, if ccp actually bothered to document and explain these things the amount of wasted posts and petitions would be cut down dramatically.
HippoKing
Posted - 2006.02.22 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: HippoKing but for capital ships, the crystals would be MUCH more powerful than the slaves then ccp needs to state that is the reason why they don't work, not just decide besides closed doors that crystal implants don't effect capital boosters and not tell anyone about it. as I've said time and time before, if ccp actually bothered to document and explain these things the amount of wasted posts and petitions would be cut down dramatically. now thats something i can say /signed to sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault
Jim Raynor
Posted - 2006.02.22 19:14:00 -
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there's no reason crystals shouldn't work on capital shield boosters, it's not like the full crystal set is easy to come by ------
Cummilla
Posted - 2006.02.22 19:20:00 -
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crysal are what? 4%? Get a dread gurr. amp and shield booster 8800 or thereabouts every cycle (interestingly there are much better amps in the game, but the dread gurr is somewhat affordable for most who fly dreads) Of course in seige mode you really dont need that amp and I've changed out for another more situationally useful module. I think if I were to engage in an assault on a deathstar type POS I would definitely put the amp back in.
The Wizz117
Posted - 2006.02.22 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Cummilla crysal are what? 4%? Get a dread gurr. amp and shield booster 8800 or thereabouts every cycle (interestingly there are much better amps in the game, but the dread gurr is somewhat affordable for most who fly dreads) Of course in seige mode you really dont need that amp and I've changed out for another more situationally useful module. I think if I were to engage in an assault on a deathstar type POS I would definitely put the amp back in. that reminds me, crystal implants are not THAT effective as many of u think, becouse u have shield boost amplifiers who also give 30%. that cuts it down abid. so its more like if u boost 100 shield 30% more with amp u boost 130% shield if u have a low-grade crystal implant set u boost 30% more over the 100 shield, in total u boost 160 shield. understand what i mean?
Sarmaul
Posted - 2006.02.22 19:48:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 22/02/2006 19:48:18 Originally by: Cummilla crysal are what? 4%? Get a dread gurr. amp and shield booster 8800 or thereabouts every cycle (interestingly there are much better amps in the game, but the dread gurr is somewhat affordable for most who fly dreads) Of course in seige mode you really dont need that amp and I've changed out for another more situationally useful module. I think if I were to engage in an assault on a deathstar type POS I would definitely put the amp back in. erm lol? a full set of crystal implants will increase your shield boost amount by 53.63%. Add to that skills and boost amplifiers and you will probably be at least doubling your boost amount. btw wizz, it would be 100 x 1.3 x 1.3, so 169 in total.
Sarmaul
Posted - 2006.02.22 20:00:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 22/02/2006 20:00:19 If they did apply to capital boosters, the maths would be:Amount : 6400 (capital booster) x 1.5363 (implants) x 1.375 (dg amp) x 1.5 (siege mode) = 20279.16hpDuration : 10 (capital booster) x 0.5 (siege mode) = 5 seconds. so that's 20279.16 every 5 seconds, or 4055.832 per second. That's not taking into account resistance either (you can quite easily get over 80% for each resistance). So yeah, there's a very good reason why crystal implants shouldn't apply to shield boosters. I just wish CCP would confirm it themselves...
The Wizz117
Posted - 2006.02.22 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul Edited by: Sarmaul on 22/02/2006 19:48:18 Originally by: Cummilla crysal are what? 4%? Get a dread gurr. amp and shield booster 8800 or thereabouts every cycle (interestingly there are much better amps in the game, but the dread gurr is somewhat affordable for most who fly dreads) Of course in seige mode you really dont need that amp and I've changed out for another more situationally useful module. I think if I were to engage in an assault on a deathstar type POS I would definitely put the amp back in. erm lol? a full set of crystal implants will increase your shield boost amount by 53.63%. Add to that skills and boost amplifiers and you will probably be at least doubling your boost amount. btw wizz, it would be 100 x 1.3 x 1.3, so 169 in total. if u can afford a full crystal implant set and get it all togeter. u can also afford 45% ( maybe even 50% if theyr there) shield boost amplifiers
The Wizz117
Posted - 2006.02.22 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: The Wizz117 on 22/02/2006 20:15:37 Edited by: The Wizz117 on 22/02/2006 20:13:47 Originally by: Sarmaul Edited by: Sarmaul on 22/02/2006 20:00:19 If they did apply to capital boosters, the maths would be:Amount : 6400 (capital booster) x 1.5363 (implants) x 1.375 (dg amp) x 1.5 (siege mode) = 20279.16hpDuration : 10 (capital booster) x 0.5 (siege mode) = 5 seconds. so that's 20279.16 every 5 seconds, or 4055.832 per second. That's not taking into account resistance either (you can quite easily get over 80% for each resistance). So yeah, there's a very good reason why crystal implants shouldn't apply to shield boosters. I just wish CCP would confirm it themselves... this is wrong, crystal implant set does not give bonus to amplifier EDIT: i must say that having a full crystal implant set on a capital ships might make it a liddle over powerd. but as it it now it is not balanced eather. maybe u could like make the crystal implants effect the passive recharge rate of captial ships? or the total shield hitpoints of the capital ships like the slave implant?
Rexthor Hammerfists
Posted - 2006.02.22 20:14:00 -
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u full set of normal crystals costs as much as the dread ur in. and the slave one gives 5º for the armor, too. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
HippoKing
Posted - 2006.02.22 20:41:00 -
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Edited by: HippoKing on 22/02/2006 20:42:20 Originally by: The Wizz117 Originally by: Sarmaul If they did apply to capital boosters, the maths would be:Amount : 6400 (capital booster) x 1.5363 (implants) x 1.375 (dg amp) x 1.5 (siege mode) = 20279.16hpDuration : 10 (capital booster) x 0.5 (siege mode) = 5 seconds. so that's 20279.16 every 5 seconds, or 4055.832 per second. That's not taking into account resistance either (you can quite easily get over 80% for each resistance). So yeah, there's a very good reason why crystal implants shouldn't apply to shield boosters. I just wish CCP would confirm it themselves... this is wrong, crystal implant set does not give bonus to amplifier all bonuses in eve like this multiply, not add edit: even the great hippoking messes up his BBcode sometimes sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
HippoKing
Posted - 2006.02.22 20:41:00 -
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Edited by: HippoKing on 22/02/2006 20:42:20 Originally by: The Wizz117 Originally by: Sarmaul If they did apply to capital boosters, the maths would be:Amount : 6400 (capital booster) x 1.5363 (implants) x 1.375 (dg amp) x 1.5 (siege mode) = 20279.16hpDuration : 10 (capital booster) x 0.5 (siege mode) = 5 seconds. so that's 20279.16 every 5 seconds, or 4055.832 per second. That's not taking into account resistance either (you can quite easily get over 80% for each resistance). So yeah, there's a very good reason why crystal implants shouldn't apply to shield boosters. I just wish CCP would confirm it themselves... this is wrong, crystal implant set does not give bonus to amplifier all bonuses in eve like this multiply, not add edit: even the great hippoking messes up his BBcode sometimes sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy<EVE Online | EVE Insider | Forums
HippoKing
Posted - 2006.02.22 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: The Wizz117 If they did apply to capital boosters, the maths would be:Amount : 6400 (capital booster) x 1.5363 (implants) x 1.375 (dg amp) x 1.5 (siege mode) = 20279.16hpDuration : 10 (capital booster) x 0.5 (siege mode) = 5 seconds. so that's 20279.16 every 5 seconds, or 4055.832 per second. That's not taking into account resistance either (you can quite easily get over 80% for each resistance). So yeah, there's a very good reason why crystal implants shouldn't apply to shield boosters. I just wish CCP would confirm it themselves... this is wrong, crystal implant set does not give bonus to amplifier all bonuses in eve like this multiply, not add sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
Sarmaul
Posted - 2006.02.22 22:25:00 -
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basically, either slave implants need to increase an armour rep's repair amount, or crystals need to add HP to the shield. the latter is preferable, and it also benefits passive tankers.
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