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Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
153
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Posted - 2013.11.19 15:44:00 -
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My name is Jythier Smith, and I am extremely excited for the opportunity to join you in your little piece of space out there. Myself and my contingent of 20 potential corp members who I have recruited to this cause are ready to fly there post-haste. However, before we can make and invest billions into your market, we require your help to cover some initial expenditures.
We need approximately 200 million ISK to outfit the gang, which would cover ships and fittings able to get to the intended destination site.
Please send this small donation post haste, in order that we can quickly and expediently join you in your efforts and help you to become a much richer person as we buy more and more ships with our own ratting money.
Thank you, Jythier Smith Potential Future CEO of Nigerian 419 Incorporate |
Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
3166
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Posted - 2013.11.19 15:45:00 -
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I would like to offer our outstanding Alliance Jump Freighter service to aid this cause. with a fleet of jump freighters available almost 23/7 we would be able to service all of your logistical needs.
Please contact me ingame to arrange terms.
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Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
153
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Posted - 2013.11.19 16:00:00 -
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Princess Saskia wrote:I would like to offer our outstanding Alliance Jump Freighter service to aid this cause. with a fleet of jump freighters available almost 23/7 we would be able to service all of your logistical needs.
Please contact me ingame to arrange terms.
/P
Oh, how excellent. Please post your rates to get all our stuff into the destination so that we can provide accurate up-front cost estimates to our backer.
Also, if you would like to become a backer of this project, please visit our EVEStarter page. Just look at those amazing stretch goals. |
Aaron
Eternal Frontier Standing United.
8
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Posted - 2013.11.19 16:43:00 -
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Princess Saskia wrote:I would like to offer our outstanding Alliance Jump Freighter service to aid this cause. with a fleet of jump freighters available almost 23/7 we would be able to service all of your logistical needs.
Please contact me ingame to arrange terms.
/P
This is exactly what will help make this adventure a success, cool dudes offering a freight service. If you are serious it is possible for you to get lots of work and a great reputation. Good on you buddy, I will be in contact very soon.
I'm actually very excited about this as logistics is crucial to any operation, I was going to see if I could get an account with Black frog Logistics, I anticipated there would be a big response to this with lots of people looking to give it a try.
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Batelle
Komm susser Tod
378
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Posted - 2013.11.19 16:52:00 -
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not sure if serious... Fighting is Magic |
Liam Inkuras
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
578
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Posted - 2013.11.19 16:58:00 -
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YOU DONE MESSED UP A-ARON I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |
Aaron
Eternal Frontier Standing United.
8
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Posted - 2013.11.19 17:14:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:
Stain is a bad region for this. Logistics are a nightmare, stations with medical services are spread unevenly, ISK/LP is bad for a pirate faction, the region is huge and you often have to travel 15 jumps back and forth just to get some item off the market, ...
Logistics will be ok if we do this intelligently, If we can get some cool dudes to be analysts and provide scouting and intel then really its just a question of patience. Also, lets say if 30 dudes come down to make a go of this I anticipate a rich marketeer will JF a load of goodies down here to put on the market and make profit. honestly, I'd be happy to pay a little more if someone had the foresight to sell stuff in a station near me.
Vera Algaert wrote:Last time all you seemed to do was belt-rat in t2 frigates hoping to avoid the Stain Empire blops crew. This time Stain is much more alive than it was last time, just look at the map - there's hardly any system that is not occupied by some -DD- or friends.
Actually, Stain Empire/DD did not get a blops on us because our tactics were solid and our risk level was so low that it wasn't really worthwhile spending large amounts of time pursuing us. On the occasion you speak of we did very well and consistently made lots of isk.
You can only know what Stain is like if you dwell down here because the eve map is not a true depiction. In my opinion I believe Stain is empty, there are lots of systems that no one cares for. This is comming from a guy whose dwelled down here for 8 years.
Vera Algaert wrote:
Build a new corp in a border system to low-sec/0.0 (Orvolle, Assah, Otsasai, ...) and only once you have ~10 active members move to a 0.0 region that has easy logistics access (ideally players should be able to fly a cloaky hauler from high-sec to your staging system, but you should definitely not require any carrier or jf midpoints in hostile space). Ease of logistics (and availability of medical services) is much more important than the density of hostiles. I'd put some thought into unusual options like NPC Delve.
Easy logistic access will make it easy for people to attack us. The difficulty of logistics in Stain can be overcome by a group of pilots that have embraced teamwork. The goal here is to build an economy to such an extent that it will make it easier for people to get here and be part of this. Remember this is about building a community, not a corp.
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Holgrak Blacksmith
European Research and Industry Corp
158
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Posted - 2013.11.19 17:40:00 -
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Aaron wrote:Hello,
I must point out that this is a disciplined style of gameplay that can be very successful if we have a good teamwork ethic.
And there's the problem, everyone with a good team work ethic is either already in nullsec/wormhole space or ganking those who don't have good teamwork skills in high sec.
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Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
258
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Posted - 2013.11.19 19:38:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:You certainly seem like a stable and well adjusted individual, I'm sure this endeavour will be a great success. That said, Stain is pretty much the worst choice you could make for this due to the awful logistics situation. I'm assuming the only reason you'd choose it is so that any poor sucker that chooses to follow you down there cannot easily pack up and leave without abandoning their ships and other valuables.
wow , i missed that tread lol
now i wanne know what the secret was The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
158
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Posted - 2013.11.19 20:07:00 -
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Lugalbandak wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:You certainly seem like a stable and well adjusted individual, I'm sure this endeavour will be a great success. That said, Stain is pretty much the worst choice you could make for this due to the awful logistics situation. I'm assuming the only reason you'd choose it is so that any poor sucker that chooses to follow you down there cannot easily pack up and leave without abandoning their ships and other valuables. wow , i missed that tread lol now i wanne know what the secret was
Well, apparently Aaron got his money or he would certainly have posted the secret info. |
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BiggerDangDude
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
33
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Posted - 2013.11.19 20:37:00 -
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Why do all your avatars make you look like clueless virgins? |
Rachel Prime
Dynaco Solutions
0
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Posted - 2013.11.19 20:57:00 -
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It sounded kinda interesting at the start, then I clicked the link from the other thread for the kill board.
Chance of enemy survival 100%
Made me lol |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
638
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Posted - 2013.11.19 21:02:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:You certainly seem like a stable and well adjusted individual, I'm sure this endeavour will be a great success. That said, Stain is pretty much the worst choice you could make for this due to the awful logistics situation. I'm assuming the only reason you'd choose it is so that any poor sucker that chooses to follow you down there cannot easily pack up and leave without abandoning their ships and other valuables. Oh wow.....that thread is pure gold.
Also, stains pretty decent for smaller entities. It's one jump from lowsec via jump freighter to Nrt (needs JC 5) or T-nn (JC 4). T-nn is a kickout station where jump freighters go to die, so make sure you have JC 5 if your using a JF. Or just use a carrier and you have loads of options. The isk in stain is pretty decent. Stain Lvl 4's pay out 3-4x as much as hisec lvl 4s due to the higher value lp and whatnot. The truesec is also pretty good. |
Aaron
Eternal Frontier Standing United.
9
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Posted - 2013.11.19 21:04:00 -
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Holgrak Blacksmith wrote:Aaron wrote:Hello,
I must point out that this is a disciplined style of gameplay that can be very successful if we have a good teamwork ethic. And there's the problem, everyone with a good team work ethic is either already in nullsec/wormhole space or ganking those who don't have good teamwork skills in high sec.
I somewhat disagree, I believe there are lots of people who want to work as a team still in hi-sec. I'd even go as far as saying the hi-sec populace outnumbers the null-sec sov/npc community greatly.
If this is to work we have to give the hi-sec dwellers a reason to come down here. I feel this maybe something that hi-sec corps and alliances can pioneer. So for example, if a hi sec corp wanted to come here and do ghost sites it would make some sense to ally themselves with someone like me. they would benefit from my intel and security and I would benefit by having allies. a mining/manufacture corp can then come down here and support us by ensuring we have the minerals/ships to achieve our goals.
Maybe this is an exercise in what drives people. I'd certainly like to see a hi-sec coalition kick some ass and hold their own.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3639
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Posted - 2013.11.19 21:07:00 -
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Is the OP the same Aaron from the Hub Zero concept years back?
If so, let's not forget what happened last time.
I think what will work if tried again is NOT to attempt to centrally manage it and to use a market to bring the concept out. Think back to the ways of olde - it always started out as a trading post. There are already some nullsec "privateers" operating out there and they already have ways of dealing with the usual gankaholics and nefarious nabobs. If you try to "bring people in" under any auspices of a concept, then you attract people whose whole game is acting like your friend and then ganking you or occasionally someone else and then playing politics to deny it. Don't try to give them an ordered to corrupt or a structure for them to make a trophy out of.
Good luck. |
Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
161
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Posted - 2013.11.19 21:31:00 -
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Isn't the whole plan to actually create a semi-private market hub? |
Aaron
Eternal Frontier Standing United.
9
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Posted - 2013.11.19 21:33:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I think what will work if tried again is NOT to attempt to centrally manage it
Hello Herzog,
Yes its me, good to know you're reading as your input is greatly appreciated.
I do agree with you as it goes. I would actually like to be perceived as a caretaker that knows lots. I don't want to be a leader, I just want to be a guy who gives advice on how to achieve this Hub Zero.
I do feel that there should be a forum/town hall for people to air their views and opinions.
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Aaron
Eternal Frontier Standing United.
10
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Posted - 2013.11.19 21:56:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Is the OP the same Aaron from the Hub Zero concept years back?
If so, let's not forget what happened last time.
I think what will work if tried again is NOT to attempt to centrally manage it and to use a market to bring the concept out. Think back to the ways of olde - it always started out as a trading post. There are already some nullsec "privateers" operating out there and they already have ways of dealing with the usual gankaholics and nefarious nabobs. If you try to "bring people in" under any auspices of a concept, then you attract people whose whole game is acting like your friend and then ganking you or occasionally someone else and then playing politics to deny it. Don't try to give them an ordered to corrupt or a structure for them to make a trophy out of.
Good luck.
Ah I see your edit.
Again, I agree it's a difficult one. I think anywhere you go there will always be some sort of structure for someone to corrupt and use to their means. The way I see this concept is that the structure will be the dudes who organise stuff to do here such as mining, ghost sites, sanctums, plex, pvp.
My feeling is that there will always be dudes who want to knock down your sandcastle and will go to great means to achieve this. I view these people as part of the game. Manipulation is rife.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6256
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:20:00 -
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Of all the things I consider pleasant, expelling carbonated liquid from my nostrils isn't one of them. Thanks for that, OP. EVE Online - A Rigged Game |
Lust Over Me
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
0
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:40:00 -
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This is the same Aaron that I have set to red because he kills innocent explorers. LOL. He's just looking for more victims in Stain as those down here are on to him and go on the defensive when he shows up. Great Job tho... now i have to move because Stain will become even more crowded.
+1 for inconveniencing me
Lust Out! |
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Carebears Countdown 5-4-3-2-1
University of Caille Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:52:00 -
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I do support your idea in theory, I think it would be great. However a couple things man...
1) Considering how much you snapped in that previous thread about 1.5 years ago, you would have been MUCH better off doing this on a different character. 2) This is just not possible in EVE Online. The more succesful you are, the more people are going to come and try to tear it down. Fact is you are not as big as N3. You are not as big as the CFC. Even if you were, that would not be a peaceful place for hi-sec dwellers; it would be an absolute warzone.
Sorry but this isn't going to happen my friend, there's no "peace" in EVE. |
Aaron
Eternal Frontier Standing United.
10
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:04:00 -
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Carebears Countdown 5-4-3-2-1 wrote:I do support your idea in theory, I think it would be great. However a couple things man...
1) Considering how much you snapped in that previous thread about 1.5 years ago, you would have been MUCH better off doing this on a different character. 2) This is just not possible in EVE Online. The more succesful you are, the more people are going to come and try to tear it down. Fact is you are not as big as N3. You are not as big as the CFC. Even if you were, that would not be a peaceful place for hi-sec dwellers; it would be an absolute warzone.
Sorry but this isn't going to happen my friend, there's no "peace" in EVE.
The thread 1.5 years ago was locked for reasons I can't talk about. I withdrew my claim for 25b.
I think the fun comes from trying to do it. The last time didn't work out as planned but I had the most fun I ever had in eve to date. And it was great to chat with lots of different people.
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Haedonism Bot
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
473
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:06:00 -
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Aaron wrote:Princess Saskia wrote:I would like to offer our outstanding Alliance Jump Freighter service to aid this cause. with a fleet of jump freighters available almost 23/7 we would be able to service all of your logistical needs.
Please contact me ingame to arrange terms.
/P This is exactly what will help make this adventure a success, cool dudes offering a freight service. If you are serious it is possible for you to get lots of work and a great reputation. Good on you buddy, I will be in contact very soon. I'm actually very excited about this as logistics is crucial to any operation, I was going to see if I could get an account with Black frog Logistics, I anticipated there would be a big response to this with lots of people looking to give it a try.
Um...um... I got a jump freighter too! PM me ! everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1099
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Posted - 2013.11.20 01:06:00 -
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We already have this, its called Providence. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1109
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Posted - 2013.11.20 10:49:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:We already have this, its called Providence. The same Providence where all neutrals are considered reds? |
flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
1622
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Posted - 2013.11.20 11:15:00 -
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Aaron wrote:Princess Saskia wrote:I would like to offer our outstanding Alliance Jump Freighter service to aid this cause. with a fleet of jump freighters available almost 23/7 we would be able to service all of your logistical needs.
Please contact me ingame to arrange terms.
/P This is exactly what will help make this adventure a success, cool dudes offering a freight service. If you are serious it is possible for you to get lots of work and a great reputation. Good on you buddy, I will be in contact very soon. I'm actually very excited about this as logistics is crucial to any operation, I was going to see if I could get an account with Black frog Logistics, I anticipated there would be a big response to this with lots of people looking to give it a try.
Stay on the meds son , stay on the meds ...
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Dextrome Thorphan
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.11.20 11:20:00 -
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Aaron wrote:I want to help create a pocket of high sec in Stain where people work as a team regardless of corp, alliance, gender, and race. I'd want to speak with like-minded people who have thought of this vision and would like to help make it a reality.
The kind gentlemen and good ladies of CCP will give us the tools to realise this fun and epic quest today, and, as the months pass it will become easier as more tools will become available to us.
Huh... tools? What tools? |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1101
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Posted - 2013.11.20 11:21:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:KuroVolt wrote:We already have this, its called Providence. The same Providence where all neutrals are considered reds?
If you think someone has been wrongly set KOS, you are more than welcome to contact a CVA Diplo and they will be happy to investigate. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
258
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Posted - 2013.11.20 11:21:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:Lugalbandak wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:You certainly seem like a stable and well adjusted individual, I'm sure this endeavour will be a great success. That said, Stain is pretty much the worst choice you could make for this due to the awful logistics situation. I'm assuming the only reason you'd choose it is so that any poor sucker that chooses to follow you down there cannot easily pack up and leave without abandoning their ships and other valuables. wow , i missed that tread lol now i wanne know what the secret was Well, apparently Aaron got his money or he would certainly have posted the secret info.
what a bummer , must be a hell of a secret for 25bil The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
Anomaly One
43
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Posted - 2013.11.20 11:24:00 -
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I'd love to join you, but i'm currently mining in high sec, which is probably more exciting than this. *~~*running my own mission and have some class bully run up and blow me up because they think its funny, then give the excuses that I was just firing fireworks at you*~~* |
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