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AndromacheDarkstar
The Amarrian Expendables 24eme Legion Etrangere
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Posted - 2013.11.19 12:58:00 -
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So most of the patch seems pretty solid apart from one really annoying thing. Its now really sluggish alt tabbing from one client to the next or even alt tabbing to the desktop. Now one of the things i loved about EVE was how easy it was to swtich between clients on a single monitor when running multiple account and sometimes its really important to be able to do that. Is it just me or is it allot slower for everyone else? NOPE. |
Merkal Aubauch
V0LTA Triumvirate.
55
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Posted - 2013.11.19 13:02:00 -
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Got three screens and I can't switch clients between them. Also can't force launcher nor eve client to run in DX9 mode only DX11... :/ |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
281
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Posted - 2013.11.19 13:06:00 -
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I will look into this. It would be helpful to get bug reports with logs attached - see https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bug_reporting. |
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Ueberlisk
The Hatchery Team Liquid
68
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Posted - 2013.11.19 14:14:00 -
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win 7 aero seems to give errors now and then it went all sluggish. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
281
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Posted - 2013.11.19 14:21:00 -
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Ueberlisk wrote:win 7 aero seems to give errors now and then it went all sluggish. Aero enabled with multiple EVE clients may simply be asking for too much.
Merkal Aubauch, AndromacheDarkstar - do you have Aero enabled? |
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AndromacheDarkstar
The Amarrian Expendables 24eme Legion Etrangere
824
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Posted - 2013.11.19 14:32:00 -
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Yes i have, that being said ive been running up to six clients until this update with no issues whatsoever all running fullscreen and alt tabbing quite happily. NOPE. |
Merkal Aubauch
V0LTA Triumvirate.
55
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Posted - 2013.11.19 14:47:00 -
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Yea I do. Tho I used command to force start DX9 and its working good. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
281
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Posted - 2013.11.19 14:49:00 -
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AndromacheDarkstar wrote:Yes i have, that being said ive been running up to six clients until this update with no issues whatsoever all running fullscreen and alt tabbing quite happily. Could you try multiple clients under DX9 (change the setting in the launcher)? I'm wondering if DX11 and Aero is somehow heavier than DX9 and Aero. |
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Chi Ana
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
48
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Posted - 2013.11.19 15:14:00 -
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Confirming that Alt-tabbing is slow, hopefully we get a fix for this |
Ueberlisk
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2013.11.19 15:41:00 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:AndromacheDarkstar wrote:Yes i have, that being said ive been running up to six clients until this update with no issues whatsoever all running fullscreen and alt tabbing quite happily. Could you try multiple clients under DX9 (change the setting in the launcher)? I'm wondering if DX11 and Aero is somehow heavier than DX9 and Aero.
If i run multiple clients with dx9 everything works fine.
Now if i try to run single or multiple client with dx11 it all goes slower.
I also noticed that some other programs that run at same time seem to crash and give dx errors when i alt tab between EvE and those other programs running both single and multiple clients.(they don't crash if i run eve(s) with dx9). Mind you that with dx11 issue exists even if i don't run anything else.
One of the error i get is "Device lost (D3DERR_DEVICELOST)". might help or might not. |
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AndromacheDarkstar
The Amarrian Expendables 24eme Legion Etrangere
824
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Posted - 2013.11.19 17:09:00 -
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Have tried with DX9 and it makes no difference at all.
Have now got home and tried disabling Aero with no joy at all
Also tried no aero with DX9 and DX11 with no results.
Having played around some more i have realised that when running a single client i actually lose the ability to press alt tab and see which things are running and swap between them NOPE. |
Athelas Loraiel
StarFleet Enterprises Fatal Ascension
16
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Posted - 2013.11.19 19:56:00 -
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try using fixed windows.
I found it works better then fullsceens.
why is anyone using fullscreen I wonder? fixed win removes traces of windows, and game is very fast, and windows response and multiple clients run fantastic!" |
Teal Hooligan
Decimation. Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2013.11.19 20:36:00 -
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I'm having difficulty keeping my second monitor screens display working. Whenever I play EVE in fullscreen mode on my main monitor then my second monitor goes black. I prefer to play EVE in fullscreen mode while having the second monitor display mumble, pidgin, dot lan or watching netflix. This was never a problem before. How do I fix this? |
MC'SAKE
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:08:00 -
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I was having this problem before rubicon as well. Although the problem did become more apparant with rubicon. Before it would take like 5 seconds to switch between eve clients. Now it takes 10+ seconds.
However. Setting my video setting to "Fixed Windows" completely fixed the problem. Should have used that setting before! |
AndromacheDarkstar
The Amarrian Expendables 24eme Legion Etrangere
824
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Posted - 2013.11.20 13:49:00 -
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Now using fixed windows which fixes everything. NOPE. |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
126
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Posted - 2013.11.29 14:11:00 -
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This issue is still present. Alt tabbing worked like a charm before Rubicon: you pressed alt tab and had the menu with all your open programs and windows visible to choose from. Now, after Rubicon, the menu with your open programs is gone as soon as you leave the game and you have to press Alt tab repeatedly again to bring it back up and choose.
This must be changed. And changed only in the only way: Back to the pre-Rubicon state. Whatever you did to the game in that regard, it's useless and it doesn't make the game any easier or better playable.
It's already a good thing that the performance was increased recently, but this issue is way worse. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
301
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Posted - 2013.11.29 14:26:00 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:This issue is still present. Alt tabbing worked like a charm before Rubicon: you pressed alt tab and had the menu with all your open programs and windows visible to choose from. Now, after Rubicon, the menu with your open programs is gone as soon as you leave the game and you have to press Alt tab repeatedly again to bring it back up and choose.
This must be changed. And changed only in the only way: Back to the pre-Rubicon state. Whatever you did to the game in that regard, it's useless and it doesn't make the game any easier or better playable.
It's already a good thing that the performance was increased recently, but this issue is way worse. Does this also happen if you run with DX9? |
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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
126
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Posted - 2013.11.29 14:56:00 -
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Sorry for the lapse: this was tested and is experienced in the DX11 client.
I just switched over to the DX9 version and alt-tabbing works as I was used to it from before: the menu stays after pressing alt-tab and switching between clients is as pleasant as before. Would be good if this was somehow achieved for DX11 as well. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
301
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Posted - 2013.11.29 15:03:00 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Sorry for the lapse: this was tested and is experienced in the DX11 client. I just switched over to the DX9 version and alt-tabbing works as I was used to it from before: the menu stays after pressing alt-tab and switching between clients is as pleasant as before. Would be good if this was somehow achieved for DX11 as well. Thanks for the info - we'll investigate and see what we can do. This may be out of our control, though - can-Št think of anything we're doing that would cause this to behave differently under DX11 compared to DX9. |
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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
126
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Posted - 2013.11.29 15:08:00 -
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Fair enough.
What I also just noticed is that if I use the launcher to start the clients it works fine, but if I use the eveexe.exe from the bin folder, it still messes up the alt tabbing. I have another look shortly at it. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
301
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Posted - 2013.11.29 15:15:00 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Fair enough.
What I also just noticed is that if I use the launcher to start the clients it works fine, but if I use the eveexe.exe from the bin folder, it still messes up the alt tabbing. I have another look shortly at it. Launching the executable directly defaults to DX11 - it relies on the launcher passing in command line flags. If you need to bypass the launcher and want to run in DX9, add /triPlatform=dx9 /noconsole to the command line. |
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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
126
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Posted - 2013.11.29 16:06:00 -
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Cool, thanks a lot for the info. This works a lot better.
I usually use the exe because the launcher screen in eve is more appealing for me, I just wish there was some more action going like in the Incursion or Retribution login screen. That's actually one of the two major things that keep me from using the launcher for anything else than updating the client.
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
302
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Posted - 2013.11.29 17:40:00 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:This issue is still present. Alt tabbing worked like a charm before Rubicon: you pressed alt tab and had the menu with all your open programs and windows visible to choose from. Now, after Rubicon, the menu with your open programs is gone as soon as you leave the game and you have to press Alt tab repeatedly again to bring it back up and choose.
This must be changed. And changed only in the only way: Back to the pre-Rubicon state. Whatever you did to the game in that regard, it's useless and it doesn't make the game any easier or better playable.
It's already a good thing that the performance was increased recently, but this issue is way worse. I'm sorry, we're not able to repro this behavior on our machines. |
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Czeris
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
86
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Posted - 2013.11.30 14:33:00 -
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This is happening to me as well. My machine is more than fast enough to run two clients as well as Aero, and had no problems before Rubicon. Now, Windows is shutting down Aero and alt-tabbing is completely messed up.
I am also getting a glitch where ~sometimes (maybe 25%) when i Alt-tab, the Eve client just goes black, after flickering briefly. When I alt-tab back to the other client it's fine (usually). I can keep alt-tabbing back and forth until one of the screens stays, but this is extremely annoying. |
Adeena Torcfist
Right Hand Of The Legion.
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Posted - 2013.11.30 20:33:00 -
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ive also had this issue. reverting to DX9 fixes the sluggish behaviour. & im running in SLi plus an overclocked CPU chip.
disabling Aero in DX11 made no difference. tbh, i dont see what benefits DX11 has on the game, i can't see anything noticable, thats for sure. |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
126
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Posted - 2013.12.01 12:53:00 -
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So I'm not alone with this problem under DX11. Good to know. I'll stick to DX9 as a solution for as long as DX11 causes more problems than benefits and does not add anything (obviously benefiting) to the game. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
309
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:30:00 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:This issue is still present. Alt tabbing worked like a charm before Rubicon: you pressed alt tab and had the menu with all your open programs and windows visible to choose from. Now, after Rubicon, the menu with your open programs is gone as soon as you leave the game and you have to press Alt tab repeatedly again to bring it back up and choose.
This must be changed. And changed only in the only way: Back to the pre-Rubicon state. Whatever you did to the game in that regard, it's useless and it doesn't make the game any easier or better playable.
It's already a good thing that the performance was increased recently, but this issue is way worse. I'm sorry, we're not able to repro this behavior on our machines. I did see this happen on a laptop machine - at least we have a chance of fixing it, now that we've seen a repro case. |
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Dsoken
Hindelewp's Hideaway
0
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Posted - 2013.12.04 04:16:00 -
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having this problem as well
i can add that turning off SLI fixes it for me |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
310
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Posted - 2013.12.04 08:32:00 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:This issue is still present. Alt tabbing worked like a charm before Rubicon: you pressed alt tab and had the menu with all your open programs and windows visible to choose from. Now, after Rubicon, the menu with your open programs is gone as soon as you leave the game and you have to press Alt tab repeatedly again to bring it back up and choose.
This must be changed. And changed only in the only way: Back to the pre-Rubicon state. Whatever you did to the game in that regard, it's useless and it doesn't make the game any easier or better playable.
It's already a good thing that the performance was increased recently, but this issue is way worse. I'm sorry, we're not able to repro this behavior on our machines. I did see this happen on a laptop machine - at least we have a chance of fixing it, now that we've seen a repro case. I see this happen if I have lots of programs open - if I only have a few programs open, the menu behaves as expected. I'll do a bit more testing, but I'm afraid this is more an issue with Windows and/or DirectX than anything in EVE. |
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Czeris
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
91
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Posted - 2013.12.04 08:54:00 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Rivr Luzade wrote:This issue is still present. Alt tabbing worked like a charm before Rubicon: you pressed alt tab and had the menu with all your open programs and windows visible to choose from. Now, after Rubicon, the menu with your open programs is gone as soon as you leave the game and you have to press Alt tab repeatedly again to bring it back up and choose.
This must be changed. And changed only in the only way: Back to the pre-Rubicon state. Whatever you did to the game in that regard, it's useless and it doesn't make the game any easier or better playable.
It's already a good thing that the performance was increased recently, but this issue is way worse. I'm sorry, we're not able to repro this behavior on our machines. I did see this happen on a laptop machine - at least we have a chance of fixing it, now that we've seen a repro case. I see this happen if I have lots of programs open - if I only have a few programs open, the menu behaves as expected. I'll do a bit more testing, but I'm afraid this is more an issue with Windows and/or DirectX than anything in EVE.
And yet, everything behaved fine until the last Eve patch, and all of my other programs behave perfectly. It is only the Eve client that causes these problems. |
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