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Carebears Countdown 5-4-3-2-1
University of Caille Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:32:00 -
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I posted this in the other thread, however I've made the decision to make a new one. It's getting tiring now seeing thread after thread with illogical suggestions on how to deal with miner griefers. I think it's time we have a thread where we can explain to the carebears (in my case fellow carebears) exactly what they are doing wrong and exactly how they should be dealing with these situations.
People are going about the revolution all wrong.
1) Fit properly. Everyone should be in a Procurer. It should be fitted like a beast. It should be fit with ECM drones. Make gankers work for their kills. Make them pay more for their ships than yours was worth. 2) Your subscription is about to expire. Use that PLEX to extend a newly created trial account. You now have a 51-day account and a free PLEX. Extend your subscription on your main like usual. Use the alt, train it to fly a Blackbird. Congrats, you're now able to jam 2 gankers almost always. 3) Offer 0 tears. In fact, offer 0 words at all. 4) Stop wardeccing them, stop trying to gank them back, stop giving them attention on the forums. 5) Learn to enjoy other aspects of the game. Gankers crowding your systems? Go duel a corp member. Go run a mission.
If we all did this, we could all just sit back and laugh at how much effort they put per 1 measly Procurer being ganked. They would be effectively griefing themselves, having to organize with several other gankers just to land one little kill on a hull worth under 10mil ISK nowadays.
But no. NO. Let's sit in 200 million ISK hulls instead. Let's tank like a 12 year old girl instead. Let's pour a river of tears down local each time they frustrate us. That'll work... |
Desivo Delta Visseroff
Ark Royal Mining Trained Divinity
60
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:35:00 -
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First!!!! |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Viziam Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:35:00 -
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self e-peen stroking? gank'd yourself and now you feel an urge to share this with us?
I don't get it. |
John Bosch
State War Academy Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:37:00 -
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Carebears Countdown 5-4-3-2-1 wrote:lots of hard, tedious stuff
Or you could just get a mining permit. Takes like 5 mins.
www.minerbumping.com |
Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
2
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:39:00 -
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0) Buy a mining permit and follow the CODE
Carebears Countdown 5-4-3-2-1 wrote:1) Fit properly. Everyone should be in a Procurer. It should be fitted like a beast. It should be fit with ECM drones. Make gankers work for their kills. Make them pay more for their ships than yours was worth. 2) Your subscription is about to expire. Use that PLEX to extend a newly created trial account. You now have a 51-day account and a free PLEX. Extend your subscription on your main like usual. Use the alt, train it to fly a Blackbird. Congrats, you're now able to jam 2 gankers almost always. 3) Offer 0 tears. In fact, offer 0 words at all. 4) Stop wardeccing them, stop trying to gank them back, stop giving them attention on the forums. 5) Learn to enjoy other aspects of the game. Gankers crowding your systems? Go duel a corp member. Go run a mission.
EDIT: damn you John Bosch :b |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5500
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:44:00 -
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if only there was some kind of ship that could bump unlicensed miners out of mining range "I can hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." |
SpoonRECKLESS
Bumper R Us
88
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:49:00 -
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You don't need a tank who told you this. i fit my meds with painters and webs to hold down the roids and allow me to get larger yield with the painters. Blue
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1557
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:54:00 -
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Try it.
No, seriously, go ahead. Take the time to setup some kind of "Miner Education Program", work to getting people through this, and learning all about how to mine properly.
And watch them ignore you when the slightly bigger dollar signs of the Retriever flash in front of them. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Leonardo Diom
UR Romex Outback Dustm3n
10
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Posted - 2013.11.19 22:57:00 -
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So basically:
A) Buy the permit and follow the code. or B) Tank your ship and/or C) Have your ship orbit a roid when mining so as to reduce the chances of you getting bumped. |
DSpite Culhach
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
197
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:07:00 -
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John Bosch wrote:Carebears Countdown 5-4-3-2-1 wrote:lots of hard, tedious stuff Or you could just get a mining permit. Takes like 5 mins. www.minerbumping.com
Do I want CCP tp develop a magic button that can spot scripted mining? Sure. Would I like to see more mechanics that turn mining from a sleepfest into a minigame that actually rewards player interaction? Of course.
On that note, I place "mining permits" in the same category as "isk doubling"; every person you convince to do this, rather then create a player that just moves elsewhere and tanks their ship, they make dumber, not better.
I would rather get blown to bits in a ship and be told "your fit lacked X, and you should have flown it like this :link: " then "Ha-ha n00b, gimme bribe to leave you alone next time".
What's next? Trying to convince people the earth is flat? Is that the level of the delusion now?
Remind me of that scene where that Cardassian is trying to get Picard to say "there is five lights", only here James315 is asking "how many mining permits do you need?" and kills or bumps you until you say at least "one". I suddenly woke up thinking I had a nightmare, then remembered I can't even fly Amarr Battleships. I add bits to this when I'm bored https://www.dropbox.com/s/foijsawsqolarom/EVE_Online.html |
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Daimon Kaiera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
454
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:08:00 -
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I stopped reading at "toons" .... . .-.. .--. / .. / .... .- ...- . / ..-. .- .-.. .-.. . -. / .- -. -.. / .. / -.-. .- -. -. --- - / --. . - / ..- .--. / ... - --- .--. - .... .. ... / ... .. --. -. .- - ..- .-. . / .. -.. . .- / .. ... / -. --- - / ... - --- .-.. . -. / ... - --- .--. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5502
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:14:00 -
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DSpite Culhach wrote: On that note, I place "mining permits" in the same category as "isk doubling"; every person you convince to do this, rather then create a player that just moves elsewhere and tanks their ship, they make dumber, not better.
I would rather get blown to bits in a ship and be told "your fit lacked X, and you should have flown it like this :link: " then "Ha-ha n00b, gimme bribe to leave you alone next time"..
A mining permit is the single most important part of a mining fit, more important even than mining lasers. "I can hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." |
DSpite Culhach
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
198
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:29:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:DSpite Culhach wrote: On that note, I place "mining permits" in the same category as "isk doubling"; every person you convince to do this, rather then create a player that just moves elsewhere and tanks their ship, they make dumber, not better.
I would rather get blown to bits in a ship and be told "your fit lacked X, and you should have flown it like this :link: " then "Ha-ha n00b, gimme bribe to leave you alone next time"..
A mining permit is the single most important part of a mining fit, more important even than mining lasers.
A mining laser is an in game item. A mining permit is someone's delusion. Just call it protection money, lets call the metagame "the mafia" and get it over with.
It does not stop bots, it just provides some entertainment for those easily entertained. I suddenly woke up thinking I had a nightmare, then remembered I can't even fly Amarr Battleships. I add bits to this when I'm bored https://www.dropbox.com/s/foijsawsqolarom/EVE_Online.html |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1207
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:35:00 -
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I do like ganking Procurers. Sure you need more than one ship to do it, but they have tastier implants than the other barges, because the bot aspirants in them think they are invincible. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
413
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Posted - 2013.11.19 23:35:00 -
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DSpite Culhach wrote:A mining laser is an in game item. A mining permit is someone's delusion. The value of money is just a delusion, and yet when enough people share that delusion, it becomes a thing. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
Leonardo Diom
UR Romex Outback Dustm3n
10
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:10:00 -
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I'd also like to point out that this whole permit deal sounds very much like a mafia scheme. In the end this is a reasonably sophisticated protection racket. |
DSpite Culhach
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
198
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:15:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:DSpite Culhach wrote:A mining laser is an in game item. A mining permit is someone's delusion. The value of money is just a delusion, and yet when enough people share that delusion, it becomes a thing.
I think you need to look up "delusion" and revisit what you just said. Unless you think that people that post here are also a delusion, in which case you might need a shrink. I suddenly woke up thinking I had a nightmare, then remembered I can't even fly Amarr Battleships. I add bits to this when I'm bored https://www.dropbox.com/s/foijsawsqolarom/EVE_Online.html |
Trevor Dalech
CandyMan Cartel Point Blank Alliance
16
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:22:00 -
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An AFK Blackbird is not gonna jam anyone. And if you're not AFK, why not go do something that's actually not mind numbingly boring and earns you more ISK than mining? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5181
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:39:00 -
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Leonardo Diom wrote:I'd also like to point out that this whole permit deal sounds very much like a mafia scheme. In the end this is a reasonably sophisticated protection racket. scamming is also a thing here, and ganking (which isn't pvp) There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Leonardo Diom
UR Romex Outback Dustm3n
10
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:43:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Leonardo Diom wrote:I'd also like to point out that this whole permit deal sounds very much like a mafia scheme. In the end this is a reasonably sophisticated protection racket. scamming is also a thing here, and ganking (which isn't pvp)
Really? I didn't know. I thought EVE was all about sharing wealth and being nice to one another. |
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
7413
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Posted - 2013.11.20 00:58:00 -
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Carebears Countdown 5-4-3-2-1 wrote:
If we all did this, we could all just sit back and laugh at how much effort they put per 1 measly Procurer being ganked. They would be effectively griefing themselves, having to organize with several other gankers just to land one little kill on a hull worth under 10mil ISK nowadays.
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We gank Covies and Retrievers for the monies...we gank Procs for the lulz. Just FYI.
Procs always have the best pods, Retrivers and Covies have the best tears. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Nanatoa
462
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Posted - 2013.11.20 01:00:00 -
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You're tired of "seeing thread after thread" about this so you decide to post the same thread twice? "Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
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WASPY69
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2013.11.20 01:55:00 -
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Permit tank best tank |
Uma D
Uma D Ltd.
25
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Posted - 2013.11.20 02:04:00 -
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I find it extremly funny how people like the OP think threads like this would change anything....
Little hint: If thoe people who become victims would actually care about reading up on stuff about eve, they would not get ganked in the first place. If they actually come to the forum in most cases it is after they got ganked and then they are not seeking for help or advise how to prevent it, they just come here to cry about how unfair this is and that it need to be changed.
You could even paint the whole first page in GD with threads like this and still nothing would change. |
Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
384
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Posted - 2013.11.20 02:53:00 -
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WASPY69 wrote:Permit tank best tank
Zero CPU, zero powergrid and best of all: no stacking penalties
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Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
306
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Posted - 2013.11.20 03:14:00 -
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Leonardo Diom wrote:So basically:
A) Buy the permit and follow the code. or B) Tank your ship and/or C) Have your ship orbit a roid when mining so as to reduce the chances of you getting bumped.
no one in this thread has mentioned offering a gf in local after a successful gank. Seriously where are your manners. here is a list of all the fiat currencies that didn't end up at zero value.....and here is a list of the places where a currency pegged to a real commodity has successfully co-existed with compound interest....-á Here is a physics professor explaining why sustainable growth isn't a thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY |
Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
162
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Posted - 2013.11.20 03:25:00 -
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If this topic was an asteroid, it would have been depleted long ago. |
Matokin Lemant
1517
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Posted - 2013.11.20 07:46:00 -
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John Bosch wrote:Carebears Countdown 5-4-3-2-1 wrote:lots of hard, tedious stuff Or you could just get a mining permit. Takes like 5 mins. www.minerbumping.com
I think the whole point of what the OP is saying is to avoid doing that.... |
Mythrandier
Spacelane Salvage
201
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Posted - 2013.11.20 08:43:00 -
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Uma D wrote:I find it extremly funny how people like the OP think threads like this would change anything....
Little hint: If thoe people who become victims would actually care about reading up on stuff about eve, they would not get ganked in the first place. If they actually come to the forum in most cases it is after they got ganked and then they are not seeking for help or advise how to prevent it, they just come here to cry about how unfair this is and that it need to be changed.
You could even paint the whole first page in GD with threads like this and still nothing would change.
Nail. Head. "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." --á D. Adams. |
Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4601
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Posted - 2013.11.20 09:30:00 -
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*sighs*
Because any of these read the forums...
To change things in game, you have to reach people in game.
You are wasting your time on the forums. |
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