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Baron' Soontir Fel
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2013.11.25 01:55:00 -
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Before you know it TEST will become miners so they can troll local in high-sec without having to worry about red killboards. AFK Farming is all they know how to do anymore. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Samurai Pizza Cats
738
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Posted - 2013.11.25 02:02:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote:Irya Boone wrote:it's such a pleasure to see TEST coming in the part of theis forum and make forumwar , after loosing in 0.0 sov , after being smacked down in o.0 npc, after being enlarged in the chocolate factory in FW ( see your amount of losses , and T3 already ? ) They only thing you can be good at .. forumwarrioring? good luck with that and .. http://wp11051964.server-he.de/goodbye.gif Sorry, who are you? I have no clue who or what your corp/alliance is or what it does but I'm fairly sure they never held two regions for years, set world records, got news coverage on forbes, dominated factional warfare or were relevant at all.
I agree though, TEST is losing hard in FW. All these sytems we're winning, all this ISK we're making, all the stuff we're learning and the fun we're having is simply terrible for the alliance!
It's losing btw, not loosing.
Added some context. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1715
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Posted - 2013.11.25 02:12:00 -
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BTW are you guys going to push back to Tier 4, or can we start chestbeating about TEST falling hard into Tier 3 on Sunday?
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Cromwell Savage
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
152
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Posted - 2013.11.25 02:19:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:BTW are you guys going to push back to Tier 4,....
No kidding. Get off your arse....my squid toon wants more T4 missions!!! |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
667
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Posted - 2013.11.25 02:23:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:ZheoTheThird wrote:This just in: big Enaluri offensive fails right on the finish line. Enaluri is Gallente. So the TEST, err I mean Caldari, offensive in Enaluri failed?
I would like to thank the Gallente for keeping the sperglords out of Enaluri.
If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
667
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Posted - 2013.11.25 02:26:00 -
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Cromwell Savage wrote:X Gallentius wrote:BTW are you guys going to push back to Tier 4,.... No kidding. Get off your arse....my squid toon wants more T4 missions!!!
After a week of missions I think everyone is sick of them and has lost interest.
I has Isk - check. I has a **** tonne of Hookbills - check. I has seen a Llama circling Black Rise - check.
Time for the pendulum to swing maybe. If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Samurai Pizza Cats
738
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Posted - 2013.11.25 02:39:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:Cromwell Savage wrote:X Gallentius wrote:BTW are you guys going to push back to Tier 4,.... No kidding. Get off your arse....my squid toon wants more T4 missions!!! After a week of missions I think everyone is sick of them and has lost interest. I has Isk - check. I has a **** tonne of Hookbills - check. I has seen a Llama circling Black Rise - check. Time for the pendulum to swing maybe.
Both caldari and amarr are dropping warzone control fast. Interestingly, amarr have shed well over 1000 members over this week.
While im sure the warzone control is mainly dropping due to a few dedicated individuals losing interest in maintaining tier 4 for the benefit of a lot of free loaders, i have no knowledge of the huge drop in numbers on the amarr side.
Though these 2 things may be an early indicator of a premature swing back to gallente/matar.
All eyes on the farmers! It might be time for TEST to witness the real power in FW occupancy. |
ZheoTheThird
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
183
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Posted - 2013.11.25 05:18:00 -
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That's strange, I did hear a lot of people saying that tier 3 is actually superior than tier 4... What now? I also made several million LP in the last week, so I really couldn't care less. If there was a need for T4, 5% is nothing a few pings couldn't fix. We made 40% in a few hours a week ago. I also couldn't care less about enaluri. If you take 40 systems and then lose one, that is certainly not a sign of you suddenly losing. Besides, both it and eha are rising fast, so fear not, it will be in our hands again ~soon~. What's up with eha by the way? Seems to me like people have started evacuating. Only about 10 galmil during EU prime. Already giving up?
To me this is kind of like WW2, where you guys are losing hard but completely fail at recognizing that. You went from "lol, look at how TEST is getting murdered... We're going to teach you how real pvp works! Hey, let's take Innia" to "your accomplishments are not yours, but the farmers'! Besides, we still own Nenna!!!1! And oms! We are CLEARLY winning, and we totally don't care about WZ control at ALL. We'll start winning real soon." Yup, there is definitely a resemblance to the german regime's war rethoric at that time. They went down in flames, let's see how this plays out :) |
ZheoTheThird
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
183
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Posted - 2013.11.25 05:19:00 -
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Crosi, learn to meme, that was bad and you should feel bad |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Samurai Pizza Cats
739
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Posted - 2013.11.25 05:31:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote:That's strange, I did hear a lot of people saying that tier 3 is actually superior than tier 4... What now? I also made several million LP in the last week, so I really couldn't care less. If there was a need for T4, 5% is nothing a few pings couldn't fix. We made 40% in a few hours a week ago. I also couldn't care less about enaluri. If you take 40 systems and then lose one, that is certainly not a sign of you suddenly losing. Besides, both it and eha are rising fast, so fear not, it will be in our hands again ~soon~. What's up with eha by the way? Seems to me like people have started evacuating. Only about 10 galmil during EU prime. Already giving up?
To me this is kind of like WW2, where you guys are losing hard but completely fail at recognizing that. You went from "lol, look at how TEST is getting murdered... We're going to teach you how real pvp works! Hey, let's take Innia" to "your accomplishments are not yours, but the farmers'! Besides, we still own Nenna!!!1! And oms! We are CLEARLY winning, and we totally don't care about WZ control at ALL. We'll start winning real soon." Yup, there is definitely a resemblance to the german regime's war rethoric at that time. They went down in flames, let's see how this plays out :)
I never said anything about nenna, or germans, are you feeling ok? |
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ZheoTheThird
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
183
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Posted - 2013.11.25 06:00:00 -
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Plenty of people have, dear, the world's not centered around you. Unless galmil are all your alts and you're secretly multiboxing hundreds of clients. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Samurai Pizza Cats
739
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Posted - 2013.11.25 06:07:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote:Plenty of people have, dear, the world's not centered around you. Unless galmil are all your alts and you're secretly multiboxing hundreds of clients.
You replied to me though, so um. Perhaps you should focus your rhetoric? Im only trying to make you better at your job in damage control. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1715
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Posted - 2013.11.25 06:43:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote:Plenty of people have, dear, the world's not centered around you. Unless galmil are all your alts and you're secretly multiboxing hundreds of clients. Center "ON" something, not "around".
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1715
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Posted - 2013.11.25 06:48:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote: amarr have shed well over 1000 members over this week. So where will CCP's army of alts head to next? |
ZheoTheThird
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
183
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Posted - 2013.11.25 06:59:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:ZheoTheThird wrote:Plenty of people have, dear, the world's not centered around you. Unless galmil are all your alts and you're secretly multiboxing hundreds of clients. You replied to me though, so um. Perhaps you should focus your rhetoric? Im only trying to make you better at your job in damage control. Since none of you have gone in detail about this damage that I'm apparently sent to control, please explain to me what you mean by that. You seem to quite like the term.
X Gallentius wrote:Center "ON" something, not "around". Sorry, I'm not a native speaker. **** me for not being born in an English-speaking country, right?
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Samurai Pizza Cats
739
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Posted - 2013.11.25 07:04:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:ZheoTheThird wrote:Plenty of people have, dear, the world's not centered around you. Unless galmil are all your alts and you're secretly multiboxing hundreds of clients. You replied to me though, so um. Perhaps you should focus your rhetoric? Im only trying to make you better at your job in damage control. Since none of you have gone in detail about this damage that I'm apparently sent to control, please explain to me what you mean by that. You seem to quite like the term. X Gallentius wrote:Center "ON" something, not "around". Sorry, I'm not a native speaker. **** me for not being born in an English-speaking country, right?
I think i speak for everyone when i say... 'what?' |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1715
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Posted - 2013.11.25 07:26:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote: Sorry, I'm not a native speaker. **** me for not being born in an English-speaking country, right?
You seem to know the difference between "lose" and "loose", so I figured you would appreciate some help.
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ZheoTheThird
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
183
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Posted - 2013.11.25 07:41:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:ZheoTheThird wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:ZheoTheThird wrote:Plenty of people have, dear, the world's not centered around you. Unless galmil are all your alts and you're secretly multiboxing hundreds of clients. You replied to me though, so um. Perhaps you should focus your rhetoric? Im only trying to make you better at your job in damage control. Since none of you have gone in detail about this damage that I'm apparently sent to control, please explain to me what you mean by that. You seem to quite like the term. X Gallentius wrote:Center "ON" something, not "around". Sorry, I'm not a native speaker. **** me for not being born in an English-speaking country, right? I think i speak for everyone when i say... 'what?' You've been using the term damage control. That implies that there's a damage that I need to control by spewing propaganda. Which damage? We have been winning for a month straight, what are you even talking about? This is like the fountain war, only that we've switched sides and it's lowsec so nobody cares vOv. Plus you guys are more elitist and tryhard than we've ever been
I do, Xgal. Thanks for the help :) |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Samurai Pizza Cats
739
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Posted - 2013.11.25 07:53:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote: You've been using the term damage control. That implies that there's a damage that I need to control by spewing propaganda. Which damage? We have been winning for a month straight, what are you even talking about? This is like the fountain war, only that we've switched sides and it's lowsec so nobody cares vOv. Plus you guys are more elitist and tryhard than we've ever been
I do, Xgal. Thanks for the help :)
What?!?!
That post is the first time i have used the term 'damage control' in my entire eve career.
If you have been winning why so much damage control? |
ZheoTheThird
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
183
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Posted - 2013.11.25 09:33:00 -
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You're using these words, I don't think you know what they mean. If gallente is not losing, why do we own 90% of the war zone? |
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Beardon
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis Dragonaors
14
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Posted - 2013.11.25 09:45:00 -
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You know, the more I read this thread, the more I can't help but think that most of this debate has just been a culture clash. No one who signs up for faction war does it to control space, they join up for the easy access to smaller scaled pvp. The allure is being able to log in and be next to a fiery wreck in 5 minutes. TEST on the other hand have spent years in an environment where controlling space was the central aspect of the game. 90% of the point of Sov-null is being able to raise your flag somewhere; sovless groups like BL (and TEST I suppose) are a novelty.
Sure controlling space can be cool and all, but if that's what people are into they generally head to Sov-null, not Faction War. Us militia folk don't wanna raise no flags, we just wanna make stuff go boom. |
Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
41
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Posted - 2013.11.25 11:05:00 -
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Zah Damaja wrote: The problem with GalMil has become clear, you have lost sight of what a big part of FW should be and that is a training ground for newbro's. None of you GalMil 'big dogs' are concerned about warzone control because you've been doing this so long you have alts cashing out in CalMil space and have been sitting on piles of ISK so all you need to do is sit back in your sniping ships and camp gates. No newbro is learning anything from that and certainly not making the ISK they SHOULD be. YOU may not care about FW control but I would bet the poor GalMil line members do. The newbros who were hoping to make some isk and learn to PVP are suffering.[...]
GalMil newbro's, if you're reading this please believe our programs are real. These are not lies. These are not tricks. These are not scams. You will get quality ISK for your efforts. You will cut your teeth in PVP against the GalMil elitists. You will not be forgotten with us like the GalMil 'elite' have forgotten about you.
I, as the Director For Newbro Integration for Noob Mercs [PHAIL] , the training corporation of Monkeys with Guns [BNANA], feel very offended!
Seriously man, not cool! #elitepvp tryhards are in every militia but dont dare to tell us from BNANA we wouldnt care about our newbros. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Samurai Pizza Cats
739
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Posted - 2013.11.25 11:33:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote:You're using these words, I don't think you know what they mean. If gallente is not losing, why do we own 90% of the war zone?
i have had no idea what you meant for the last 2 pages. You keep replying to individuals with generalised rhetoric addressing things that those people have never said.
Perhaps you are fatigued, or your role here s above your ability? |
Mabego Tetrimon
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
13
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Posted - 2013.11.25 11:39:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote:You're using these words, I don't think you know what they mean. If gallente is not losing, why do we own 90% of the war zone? well on some ground you are right. FW is based around WZ control and it has consequences, which is good and all. And yes, due to overhelming numbers of Farmers and Fleet members you gained 90% of the zone. Gratz on that. But that was achieved by nameless farmer hordes of CalMil and some Null-sec faggots not once but several times before, so not really a great achievment of yours.....Get the medal (for full control) and then you really made a great achievment in Sov-FW, and i be the first to gratulate and praise you.
On the other hand -you must know by now-, WZ-control is (nearly) meaningless to most of us FW-pvpers, as the main motivation is not to get isk out of FW (this many of us do with farming alts^^ right now based on your reaching of T4 and spending LP to hold it^^) but to get fun out of it via gudfights (which for each of us might be a lil different as well). On that ground you achieved a lot i must say, As with you in the WZ my GF-o-meter is nearly tilt to the max the whole time. On that groud, we all really win ;)
And i must say, get better folks, most of your fleets are still bad as ****, and on individual basis i only found 1 (exactly!) Test guy who had good pvp skills. Be happy, there is much room to improve
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ZheoTheThird
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
183
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Posted - 2013.11.25 12:04:00 -
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Sorry that my bomber keeps losing to your stiletto, I'm trying. While this is certainly a case of two cultures clashing, there's a whole lot of shitflinging going on. There are somewhat reasonable people like Xgal or you and then you have people llike Crosi who are so bad that they can't even troll properly.
The fact is that calmil was a dead body when the great turtle-headed TEST dino entered the game. What followed is best described as an invasion of brainless dinos in talwars who quickly burned down everything but the most resilient of systems. While this is to some degree due to farmers, TEST singlehandedly pushing caldari to t2 on our second afternoon and then taking 50% of the warzone in the first week is certainly not due to 3rd party farmers.
We're now enjoying our LP and ISK showers and are aiming for that shiny medal. What exactly do you need for that, by the way? Is capturing all the systems enough or do you need to get every single one to V? |
Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
42
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Posted - 2013.11.25 12:09:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote: The fact is that calmil was a dead body when the great turtle-headed TEST dino entered the game.
Can-¦t argue against that. I-¦ve said it before and I will say it again, TEST joining CalMil was the best thing that could happen to our warzone, for both sides.
ZheoTheThird wrote: We're now enjoying our LP and ISK showers and are aiming for that shiny medal. What exactly do you need for that, by the way? Is capturing all the systems enough or do you need to get every single one to V?
Be careful with such predictions, the last weeks were filled with those, as much as I know none of them were right.
"Innia by sunday" "Eha next week"
Again, by both sides :) |
Roime
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
3686
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Posted - 2013.11.25 12:12:00 -
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It's all good imo, TEST caters to everyone
1) provides a community for those who enjoy grinding imaginary space kredits and ascii art in a PVP game 2) easy kills to those who enjoy winning engagements in a PVP game
Fighting TEST is like shooting rats- they don't do much damage, they don't have any strategy, but there's a lot of them and each drops a little loot and gives a little LP bounty.
Notify-á-á You cannot do that while warping. |
Garan Nardieu
Moira. Villore Accords
63
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Posted - 2013.11.25 13:17:00 -
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ZheoTheThird wrote:... The fact is that calmil was a dead body when the great turtle-headed TEST dino entered the game. What followed is best described as an invasion of brainless dinos in talwars who quickly burned down everything but the most resilient of systems. While this is to some degree due to farmers, TEST singlehandedly pushing caldari to t2 on our second afternoon and then taking 50% of the warzone in the first week is certainly not due to 3rd party farmers.
Actually, you are missing some points there - while Calmil was indeed quite dead before you entered, what has happened since in terms of sov swing (emphasize is on sov swing, not tier rising) really was not solely or predominantly due to test - it was due to farmers.
Now, let me explain (again, for n-th time). Yes you guys did bash iHubs and poured LP for tier upgrades, but getting those systems vulnerable was much more due to general farmer activity. Btw - guess who profited most from all you did (hint: it wasn't your alliance or 'old guard' calmil*). Naturally, I expect your standard 'damage control' reply here - but before that, take a look at numbers. FW stats are available through API and you can check them for yourself. Take last week for example - during that period total Calmil VPs stand at 185.300. Out of those, State Protectorate got 66.380 (35,8%), while Dreddit got 20.000 (10,7 %). Rest of Test corps are not in top 10, but its quite obvious - if you took out SP (State Protectorate), you'd not get too far in sov war, especially considering that a decent amount of your (Dreddit/Test) VP's came out of plexing our home systems in your attempts of overtaking them. It's been pretty much like this from day 1 of you joining, the data is there for anyone to check and see, if they want to.
Test entry resulted in a re-invigorated warzone, which is really great. Also, your entry brought back a fair numbers of sore losers from the past (*cough* Khan *cough*) which I find both amusing and a bit sad since they'll leave again as soon as the things start going south for Cals (Incursions are more fun then FW, right?). However, the key to CalMil rise was not your activity, it was re-activation of farmer alts after you joined. As it was said so many times before, this was expected and "all of this has happened before", you just fail to realize that we're not trolling you, its just the way FW works. Ultimately, if it makes you feel better or 'relevant' to make numerous posts of forums about how awesome and superior you are, go on. I guess it acts as a kind of therapy after being kicked around so bad during past 6 or so months v0v.
Quote:We're now enjoying our LP and ISK showers and are aiming for that shiny medal. What exactly do you need for that, by the way? Is capturing all the systems enough or do you need to get every single one to V? You only need to take all the systems. Only.
*it was the farming alts from SP |
ZheoTheThird
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
183
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Posted - 2013.11.25 13:39:00 -
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Charlie, I wouldn't place too much importance on "XX by YY" - after all we've been going with the VFK by AT/october/christmas gimmick for over a year now. I do believe that we'll get Eha this week though, there's not too much resistance. Pizza promise. |
Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
42
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Posted - 2013.11.25 13:59:00 -
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No medal without Nenna, and Nenna will never fall!
WAAAGH! |
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