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TWD
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Posted - 2006.02.23 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: DoctorGonzo
Originally by: Dracorimus "if you think Iron is on the verge of collapse you've got another thing coming. We've got a great group of allies"
Wasnt talking about your allies, he was referring to YOU, as in IRON.
I would say that G think exactly the same too, which is surely why they've placed Cmd Woodlouse in EXODUS - to baby sit IRON and try to keep them together.
Interesting really, as IRON collapsing would be a major hickup to their plans.
..and anyway - who said you lot in the North could have all this fun without inviting us? I'm more than a little ****ed about it!
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.02.23 14:15:00 -
[152]
Holy weasels you guys are a bunch of psychos :D
All my respect tho o/
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Kryztal
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Posted - 2006.02.23 14:26:00 -
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Iron vs any BoB corp
Thats what i would like to see...
Black Nova Corp
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.02.23 14:35:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Bratzo Edited by: Bratzo on 22/02/2006 22:00:44
As of tomorrow after DT, G and IRON will be adjusting our standings to every major and minor entity left in the north. PA, NBSI, KAOS and anybody else i might have forgoten, will be set to -10.
As 5 has been KOS to us since thier founding and F-E has been set to -10 as a consequence of thier NAP with 5, the entire north is now effectivly Hostile to us. This includes Corperations not affiliated with or suported by any of the named entities.
With other words, if your not sure we like you, run cuz we probably dont.
Reasons: Incapability of the before mentioned, former neutrals to take care of "thier" space, Our boredom and the new servers.
All directors have been informed to count convo requests. The corp and/or allaince that manages to get on our nerves the most will recieve all the attention our fleets are capable of giving.
Could you explain which bits of this post are true and which are false (or typos) please Cmd Woodlouse?
Because it does look a bit like "get +ve standings with G+IRON or diethxbye" in summary.
Yet you said you won't be shooting neutrals in the later post? Was it just posturing or will you and G be adopting an all neutrals (zero standings) will be targets policy in Pureblind and the north?
If you are adopting a must have +VE for "neutrality" (NBSI) policy can you please say that in simple terms.
If IRON + G are adopting a combined "Not red don't shoot it" (NRDSI) policy could you please say that in simple terms.
Also.
Given that you've now decided that PA are bad guys and need to be crushed like bugs does that mean you finally admit that JF was right to go to war with them on their backstabbing and poor dealings 9 months ago and you now wish to make ammends for supporting them against us?
I ask because I'm genuinely fascinated to know if this is a meaningful political realignment with an appropriate degree of internal analysis and honesty or just a "muhahahaha we have teh power" moment of main chance land-grabbing "because you can".
If its the former then I'd like to believe you can finally see our point now you've turned your guns on the people we fought long and hard over the issue of their poor decisions and management of Venal.
If its the latter of course, I'd appreciate a little more honesty from your (and G's) future press releases and a plain admission that you aren't Eve's "good guys" at all, but simply another band of 0.0 bandits out for whatever you can steal by superior firepower and use of force.
So please, a considered answer would be most appreciated.
(and before anyone from IRON and G smacks me for asking these questions understand that by placing a public press release you are inviting comment and politely stated questions.)
Well here are the questions. Please take a stab at answering them or maybe you shouldn't post anything at all next time on the political forum category.
Thank you very much.
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2006.02.23 15:09:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Kryztal Edited by: Kryztal on 23/02/2006 14:27:13 Iron vs BNC
Thats what i would like to see...
edited: cos i would be jealous if it was any other corp then BNC
See it? U mean u wouldnt join in?
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Complex Watcher
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Posted - 2006.02.23 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Complex Watcher on 23/02/2006 15:12:42
Originally by:
Given that you've now decided that PA are bad guys and need to be crushed like bugs does that mean you finally admit that JF was right to go to war with them on their backstabbing and poor dealings 9 months ago and you now wish to make ammends for supporting them against us?
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Since when did what Jade Falcon think ever become releavant to anyone but themselves. The only territory you can control is Low Sec Forums, and even get trounced there.
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Raid
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Posted - 2006.02.23 15:25:00 -
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Would have been nicer to see G/IRON vs BOB only this time G/IRON being the agressive ones. But oh well, im sure someone theres other quality fraps in the works.
GL with the whole killing of everything thing...
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Chris Henry
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Posted - 2006.02.23 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Complex Watcher Edited by: Complex Watcher on 23/02/2006 15:12:42
Originally by:
Given that you've now decided that PA are bad guys and need to be crushed like bugs does that mean you finally admit that JF was right to go to war with them on their backstabbing and poor dealings 9 months ago and you now wish to make ammends for supporting them against us?
Since when did what Jade Falcon think ever become releavant to anyone but themselves. The only territory you can control is Low Sec Forums, and even get trounced there.
Alts and trolling are bad mkay?
I would also be very interested to hear a considered answer to these questions. Please consider them echoed, albeit slightly less confrontationally, by me.
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2006.02.23 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Asmodea Lorion
Signed and fully endorsed on behalf of RAZOR Alliance.
Asmo, Bladerunners, RZR.
Cool logo
Consider your sig tainted, and all your alcohol stolen - Wrangler Beer=Beer+3 |
ponieus
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Posted - 2006.02.23 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 yarr end of politics here we go
about time ..
welcome to the darkside of the eve game. regardless of what anyone says you guys are protecting your own.
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Destable
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
If you are adopting a must have +VE for "neutrality" (NBSI) policy can you please say that in simple terms.
If IRON + G are adopting a combined "Not red don't shoot it" (NRDSI) policy could you please say that in simple terms.
There's a 3rd option too. "We choose our targets without feeling compelled to explain our reasoning to you" (WCOTWFCTEORTY)
Choose this one Woody! Go! Go!
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Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:13:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Bratzo Edited by: Bratzo on 22/02/2006 22:00:44
As of tomorrow after DT, G and IRON will be adjusting our standings to every major and minor entity left in the north. PA, NBSI, KAOS and anybody else i might have forgoten, will be set to -10.
As 5 has been KOS to us since thier founding and F-E has been set to -10 as a consequence of thier NAP with 5, the entire north is now effectivly Hostile to us. This includes Corperations not affiliated with or suported by any of the named entities.
With other words, if your not sure we like you, run cuz we probably dont.
Reasons: Incapability of the before mentioned, former neutrals to take care of "thier" space, Our boredom and the new servers.
All directors have been informed to count convo requests. The corp and/or allaince that manages to get on our nerves the most will recieve all the attention our fleets are capable of giving.
Could you explain which bits of this post are true and which are false (or typos) please Cmd Woodlouse?
Because it does look a bit like "get +ve standings with G+IRON or diethxbye" in summary.
Yet you said you won't be shooting neutrals in the later post? Was it just posturing or will you and G be adopting an all neutrals (zero standings) will be targets policy in Pureblind and the north?
If you are adopting a must have +VE for "neutrality" (NBSI) policy can you please say that in simple terms.
If IRON + G are adopting a combined "Not red don't shoot it" (NRDSI) policy could you please say that in simple terms.
Also.
Given that you've now decided that PA are bad guys and need to be crushed like bugs does that mean you finally admit that JF was right to go to war with them on their backstabbing and poor dealings 9 months ago and you now wish to make ammends for supporting them against us?
I ask because I'm genuinely fascinated to know if this is a meaningful political realignment with an appropriate degree of internal analysis and honesty or just a "muhahahaha we have teh power" moment of main chance land-grabbing "because you can".
If its the former then I'd like to believe you can finally see our point now you've turned your guns on the people we fought long and hard over the issue of their poor decisions and management of Venal.
If its the latter of course, I'd appreciate a little more honesty from your (and G's) future press releases and a plain admission that you aren't Eve's "good guys" at all, but simply another band of 0.0 bandits out for whatever you can steal by superior firepower and use of force.
So please, a considered answer would be most appreciated.
(and before anyone from IRON and G smacks me for asking these questions understand that by placing a public press release you are inviting comment and politely stated questions.)
Well here are the questions. Please take a stab at answering them or maybe you shouldn't post anything at all next time on the political forum category.
Thank you very much.
There's alot of people in IRON, and Im almost positive G, that do feel we are the good guys. Our resident accepting policy is fairly open. We dont fire on neutrals in PB or Fade (Dek is another thing, its soo far away from empire that there's no good reason for a neut to be there). We also only fight the real pr1ck alliances.
PA/NBSI are dying. We're just grabbing at whatever territory we can. Nothing fairly reprehensible about that. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever |
Chris Henry
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:13:00 -
[163]
WCOTWFCTEORTY doesn't quite roll off the tongue does it?
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Bratzo
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:21:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Bratzo Edited by: Bratzo on 22/02/2006 22:00:44
As of tomorrow after DT, G and IRON will be adjusting our standings to every major and minor entity left in the north. PA, NBSI, KAOS and anybody else i might have forgoten, will be set to -10.
As 5 has been KOS to us since thier founding and F-E has been set to -10 as a consequence of thier NAP with 5, the entire north is now effectivly Hostile to us. This includes Corperations not affiliated with or suported by any of the named entities.
With other words, if your not sure we like you, run cuz we probably dont.
Reasons: Incapability of the before mentioned, former neutrals to take care of "thier" space, Our boredom and the new servers.
All directors have been informed to count convo requests. The corp and/or allaince that manages to get on our nerves the most will recieve all the attention our fleets are capable of giving.
Could you explain which bits of this post are true and which are false (or typos) please Cmd Woodlouse?
Because it does look a bit like "get +ve standings with G+IRON or diethxbye" in summary.
Yet you said you won't be shooting neutrals in the later post? Was it just posturing or will you and G be adopting an all neutrals (zero standings) will be targets policy in Pureblind and the north?
If you are adopting a must have +VE for "neutrality" (NBSI) policy can you please say that in simple terms.
If IRON + G are adopting a combined "Not red don't shoot it" (NRDSI) policy could you please say that in simple terms.
Also.
Given that you've now decided that PA are bad guys and need to be crushed like bugs does that mean you finally admit that JF was right to go to war with them on their backstabbing and poor dealings 9 months ago and you now wish to make ammends for supporting them against us?
I ask because I'm genuinely fascinated to know if this is a meaningful political realignment with an appropriate degree of internal analysis and honesty or just a "muhahahaha we have teh power" moment of main chance land-grabbing "because you can".
If its the former then I'd like to believe you can finally see our point now you've turned your guns on the people we fought long and hard over the issue of their poor decisions and management of Venal.
If its the latter of course, I'd appreciate a little more honesty from your (and G's) future press releases and a plain admission that you aren't Eve's "good guys" at all, but simply another band of 0.0 bandits out for whatever you can steal by superior firepower and use of force.
So please, a considered answer would be most appreciated.
(and before anyone from IRON and G smacks me for asking these questions understand that by placing a public press release you are inviting comment and politely stated questions.)
Well here are the questions. Please take a stab at answering them or maybe you shouldn't post anything at all next time on the political forum category.
Thank you very much.
well lots of questions there... lemme see... I think we can deffinatly say... maybe, maybe not.
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ponieus
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Bratzo
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Bratzo Edited by: Bratzo on 22/02/2006 22:00:44 giving.
well lots of questions there... lemme see... I think we can deffinatly say... maybe, maybe not.
love it .. admit it.. it feels good being bad sometimes doesnt it..
huh ? huh? huh?
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Imran
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:43:00 -
[166]
darko loves men. woodnuby 4tw hi goob.
that is all.
EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful |
Vortex Freeman
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:58:00 -
[167]
What happened to peace and prosperity? --- Vortex Freeman
'Preparatus Supervivet' |
Black Lotus
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Posted - 2006.02.23 17:10:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
PA/NBSI are dying. We're just grabbing at whatever territory we can. Nothing fairly reprehensible about that.
Um, if u belive all the forum hype sure. But that also means Iron are dying, weak, etc, etc. Now thats not true.
And neither is NBSI are dying true.
I call things how i see them, no bull****, and ive always frowned upon all the IRON are weak posts, if they were so weak, they wouldnt be an alliance anymore, or hold space. So Iron is not weak.
I also, seen the same things said about nbsi, yet i knew it couldnt be true, for example EddZ, if they were so weak, how did they inflict billions of losses on kia, and why did kia have to only go for ganks when they declared war, if nbsi were so weak, kia shouldve had np's fighting them head on.
Anyways, since then ive joined nbsi, and saying nbsi is dying, is far from the truth. The killboards would say differently, and kaos would also tell u diff. NBSI has been quite successful in repeling all of KAOS attacks. KAOS do not hold 6oy. Like i stated in their post, their post was very pre-mature.
NBSI are no powerhouse, true, but they have the fight and will, and imo are great people.
When Kaos invaded s-eviq ( i was in kaos at the time). NBSI succefully held a 50man gatecamp the entire weekend, and prevented fe reinforcents, and kaos from taking s-eviq, and also destroyed 2 dreadnaughts.
NBSI is not dying, and IRON are not weak.
Smacktalking smaller alliances then ur own, claiming they are dead, or weak, to boost ur own morale,or make urself feel better, is really not needed.
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ponieus
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Posted - 2006.02.23 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Vortex Freeman What happened to peace and prosperity?
goes out the window when you fight everyone elses fight.
and long time no see.
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Tarphon
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Posted - 2006.02.23 17:15:00 -
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G is not shooting neutrals they are seting former neutrals to -10 or RED then shooting them. If you are confused if you are a target convo them
The North will be clensed GL G and allies and to FE/5 etc. RIP
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2006.02.23 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tarphon G is not shooting neutrals they are seting former neutrals to -10 or RED then shooting them. If you are confused if you are a target convo them
The North will be clensed GL G and allies and to FE/5 etc. RIP
premature ranting ftw? We'll see what happens. Looking forward to some lagfree fights i hope.
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.02.23 17:38:00 -
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Hey wooly I have a question maybe its been answered alredy maybe its a noobish one, but what are your stances now to those alliances that live around your space like Trust, Ekliptica, Die Patrizer, ecc... ?
- Gob (also known as Admiral Goberius) |
Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.02.23 17:55:00 -
[173]
fun times for the North ahead and the East Side ,this doesnt come as a real surprise tough
probably the worst development for PA, K-8SQS (perhaps bkg) makes a nice Beachhead for IRON/G into the upper North if they want one
to .5./FE i think it was pretty clear that at some point G/IRON would come atleast knocking
to the people saying that IRON is weak, i personally doubt that, tough it is true that they are standing in the shadow of their ally G. That also wont really change, Woodlouse being in IRON to help straigthen things a bit up only enforce that image. That being said we all will see for ourselves in the future how things are, havent really fought much against G or IRON up to date.
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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WilfredTheSmart
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Posted - 2006.02.23 18:31:00 -
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TBh I think if Iron setup a an outpost in wlf it would be worth the trouble only to hold the three or 4 systems in from Delk. Wlf is a -1 system - the best in Venal.
Have you seen the spawns there - they are . They were amazing pre-RMR, wonder what they are like now? Not to mention the minerals - if i ever had a chance to bring a barge up there - Jesus has it been that long since I mined (16 months and counting)
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RaYmEn
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Posted - 2006.02.23 18:53:00 -
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.02.23 19:14:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Bratzo
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Bratzo Edited by: Bratzo on 22/02/2006 22:00:44
As of tomorrow after DT, G and IRON will be adjusting our standings to every major and minor entity left in the north. PA, NBSI, KAOS and anybody else i might have forgoten, will be set to -10.
As 5 has been KOS to us since thier founding and F-E has been set to -10 as a consequence of thier NAP with 5, the entire north is now effectivly Hostile to us. This includes Corperations not affiliated with or suported by any of the named entities.
With other words, if your not sure we like you, run cuz we probably dont.
Reasons: Incapability of the before mentioned, former neutrals to take care of "thier" space, Our boredom and the new servers.
All directors have been informed to count convo requests. The corp and/or allaince that manages to get on our nerves the most will recieve all the attention our fleets are capable of giving.
Could you explain which bits of this post are true and which are false (or typos) please Cmd Woodlouse?
Because it does look a bit like "get +ve standings with G+IRON or diethxbye" in summary.
Yet you said you won't be shooting neutrals in the later post? Was it just posturing or will you and G be adopting an all neutrals (zero standings) will be targets policy in Pureblind and the north?
If you are adopting a must have +VE for "neutrality" (NBSI) policy can you please say that in simple terms.
If IRON + G are adopting a combined "Not red don't shoot it" (NRDSI) policy could you please say that in simple terms.
Also.
Given that you've now decided that PA are bad guys and need to be crushed like bugs does that mean you finally admit that JF was right to go to war with them on their backstabbing and poor dealings 9 months ago and you now wish to make ammends for supporting them against us?
I ask because I'm genuinely fascinated to know if this is a meaningful political realignment with an appropriate degree of internal analysis and honesty or just a "muhahahaha we have teh power" moment of main chance land-grabbing "because you can".
If its the former then I'd like to believe you can finally see our point now you've turned your guns on the people we fought long and hard over the issue of their poor decisions and management of Venal.
If its the latter of course, I'd appreciate a little more honesty from your (and G's) future press releases and a plain admission that you aren't Eve's "good guys" at all, but simply another band of 0.0 bandits out for whatever you can steal by superior firepower and use of force.
So please, a considered answer would be most appreciated.
(and before anyone from IRON and G smacks me for asking these questions understand that by placing a public press release you are inviting comment and politely stated questions.)
Well here are the questions. Please take a stab at answering them or maybe you shouldn't post anything at all next time on the political forum category.
Thank you very much.
well lots of questions there... lemme see... I think we can deffinatly say... maybe, maybe not.
Then why make a public annoucement in the first place? If you aren't prepared to answer questions what was this for?
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Octavios
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Posted - 2006.02.23 19:37:00 -
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the bottim line is that the north F-ed up and G and Iron got tired of it.
if G and IRON have any good sucess in the North, i see PA, NBSI, FE, and Five forming a northern aliance.
where's bob?
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slothe
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Posted - 2006.02.23 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Octavios the bottim line is that the north F-ed up and G and Iron got tired of it.
if G and IRON have any good sucess in the North, i see PA, NBSI, FE, and Five forming a northern aliance.
where's bob?
i can see something similar, but someone has to die, they just do, and pa is well overdue.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.02.23 19:41:00 -
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Yeah though I bet you can see how its kinda ironic we were telling the rest of you this about a year ago
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2006.02.23 19:42:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Wizie So whats changed?
We have nearly no NAPs with any bigger alliances. Basically it says: Hey we are setting PA, KAOS and NBSI also to KOS.
The statement from Bratzo however could be misunderstood. Smaller Corps and industrial alliances like ISS that are seeking for a fortune, or deklein/fade residents will remain neutral to us, which means no shootie shootie.
We have absolutely NO interest in killing neutral travellers and residents. They just wanna live on their independant ways and looking for some profit and 0,0 experience. BUT we are looking for fights against all the other northern alliances which would basically mean: 5/F-E/PA/NBSI/KAOS/CRUEL and some others.
Any corp that we were friendly with (G-Alliance) may contact me if confused
doh, damm...
Nubfri, ur still NOT allowed to gank n00blars!
Now get into that exhumer again, we need funds for our war
see Nafri, I told you a year ago that you would benefit from training you mining skills So... thank you who ? :P
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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