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Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.23 09:06:00 -
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Ok, so this isn't a thread stating how it shouldn't be allow and blah blah blah...
This is a thread about how players in a given system would have the capability to catch a cloaky.
Now, if the cloaky is afk, you'll catch him, but if he's actively engaged in the game like he should be, you won't catch him.
Here's the plan.
New probe..
Covert counter probe.
It basically work like any other probes, but the difference is, they send out a ping that generalizes location.
Once you have a set number of covert counter probes on grid with the cloaked ship, the following scan will be within range for the frequency of the ping to knock the ship out of cloak.
However, due to the fact that a set number of probes need to be on grid with the cloaked ship, it makes it a bit more difficult than core and combat probes.
That said, if the target ship is active within the game, then it will be impossible to pin him down cause he'll be warping around.
So, this give players a way to counter afk cloaking, but also still gives benefit to being an active cloaker. |
Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
661
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Posted - 2013.11.23 09:09:00 -
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Oh, and the probes have a cycle time, so you CANNOT use them at a gate camp to knock a cloaky and insta-pop... |
Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
661
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Posted - 2013.11.23 09:10:00 -
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Oops, didn't realize there was a collection thread.... My bad for not looking...
Carry on.. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
15694
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Posted - 2013.11.23 12:07:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Joe Risalo
State War Academy Caldari State
662
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Posted - 2013.11.23 22:51:00 -
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You no like? |
Clementina
Coreli Corporation
97
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Posted - 2013.11.23 23:02:00 -
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AFK cloaking is fine. If someone is AFK and cloaked they can't lock, shoot, relay intel, use gang boosting mods, or anything else to hurt you. If the cloaker is not AFK they are not AFK |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
15694
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Posted - 2013.11.23 23:15:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Jane Shapperd
Sanctuary Reapers II
11
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Posted - 2013.11.24 00:49:00 -
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Clementina wrote:AFK cloaking is fine. If someone is AFK and cloaked they can't lock, shoot, relay intel, use gang boosting mods, or anything else to hurt you. If the cloaker is not AFK they are not AFK
Agreed |
Lady Rift
What Shall We Call It
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Posted - 2013.11.24 02:11:00 -
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good idea
just make it take 50 probes and a launcher can only hold 5 along with needing a different harder to fit launcher than the expanded probe launcher. With max fitting of one launcher per ship. |
Iminent- Doom
Concordiat Spaceship Samurai
0
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Posted - 2013.12.24 08:57:00 -
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i myself engage in afk cloaky camping systems at times and i agree it is kinda broke. and tbh in my opinion borderline boting
why do i say this simple really when i afk cloaky camp a system it will achieve the desired effect of people docking up or not using that system due to the action of a player that is NOT at the computer playing the game, granted while this dont make you isk like mining bots or ratting bots it is still a action carried out to achieve certain outcome.
i do like the probe idea.
maybe make it that cloaking devices give a bonus like -75% sig radius while cloaked or -20% sig reduction per level of the cloaking skill while cloaked
you could argue that yes the ship is invisible to the naked eye and ship scanners, combat scanner probes can detected the faint em from the electronics on board.
this is only a idea and the numbers used are not balanced in the slightest thats ccps job |
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Seranova Farreach
521
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Posted - 2013.12.24 09:14:00 -
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Clementina wrote:AFK cloaking is fine. If someone is AFK and cloaked they can't lock, shoot, relay intel, use gang boosting mods, or anything else to hurt you. If the cloaker is not AFK they are not AFK
they can relay intell in the form of local, local needs a nerf :P _______________________ http://i.imgur.com/d9Ee2ik.jpg
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
2366
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Posted - 2013.12.24 15:16:00 -
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You know ISD, you deserve this.
To the OP, stop. There is a list.
Making a cloaky probable is very old and has been suggested many itmes.
Stop making old and redundant posts that are not only in the above noted list, but are also in the commonly proposed ideas thread that has a sticky.
Did you check that? No? What a ******* shock.
Next time, check there boob. And stop with these kinds of posts.
ISD, close this damn thread. Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what? |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
2366
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Posted - 2013.12.24 15:19:00 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:You know ISD, you deserve this. To the OP, stop. There is a list. Making a cloaky probable is very old and has been suggested many itmes. Stop making old and redundant posts that are not only in the above noted list, but are also in the commonly proposed ideas thread that has a sticky. Did you check that? No? What a ******* shock. Next time, check there boob. And stop with these kinds of posts. ISD, close this damn thread.
"there are plenty on the subject [anti AFK-cloakting threads], here they are, no need to start a new one"--ISD Ezwal
Don't ya hate it, Ezwal, when people throw your own words at you? Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what? |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
864
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Posted - 2013.12.24 15:48:00 -
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Joe Risalo wrote:O Now, if the cloaky is afk, you'll catch him, but if he's actively engaged in the game like he should be...
Why should he be actively engaged? Being able to cloak and take 5min or 50 min is a QoL thing for many players. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
3580
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Posted - 2013.12.24 16:09:00 -
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So-called "AFK Cloaking" is also a tool used BY the PvE players who meta game.
They set up a fake threat, under a different account and unfamiliar name, help it sneak into the system, and set it up to AFK cloak.
Using this fake threat like a scarecrow, they keep other alliance mates out of their systems... heck, they can even keep their own corp out, if they are nasty enough.
Using this threat to hold their "competition" away, they can rat and mine to their heart's content.
They can even stage mock battles showing how they narrowly escape the dangerous camper, to boost it's realism.
Nope, AFK cloaking can be done BY PvE too.
Welcome to the sandbox. Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what? |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
649
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Posted - 2013.12.24 17:01:00 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:"there are plenty on the subject [anti AFK-cloakting threads], here they are, no need to start a new one"--ISD Ezwal
Don't ya hate it, Ezwal, when people throw your own words at you? Nope, not really. Especially not when used in the right context...
As there is a nice collection thread regarding AFK-cloaking and this proposal is far from new, this thread gets a lock.
The rules: 16. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. ISD Ezwal Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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