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Diamond Zerg
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.26 02:19:00 -
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Hi, I'd like to start a discussion on nullsec politics.
It is currently my opinion that if N3 starts to lose ground and PL assets are significantly at risk, PL will probobly abandon N3 and go back to being nomads.
Renter empire, you say? Sure, they'll stay to defend it if it is convenient for them, but they don't actually need it; PL can earn their ISK in other waysGÇö mercenary work for example.
To me, this is an option that makes a lot of sense considering their tight community. N3 is not a tight community, it is a bandwagon community. PL will mostly stick together if they lose their sov, whereas N3 will not.
Now, I could be totally wrong and PL will remain truly loyal to N3 even if a lot of pressure is put on them by CFC/Rus.
What are your opinions? |
Prince Sanguine
80
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Posted - 2013.11.26 02:28:00 -
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grr Everytime you read this you are required to send 100 million isk directly to me. |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1791
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Posted - 2013.11.26 03:01:00 -
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Of course. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
EI Digin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1391
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Posted - 2013.11.26 03:06:00 -
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Yes |
Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
63
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Posted - 2013.11.26 03:07:00 -
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Its a case of When they start losing not If..
Atm the main thing that is dragging the war out is the TZ diffrence between the two blocs.. The N3 team has the dominace over the US/AU TZ's while the Stainwagon is mainly Rus/Euro and with current Sov mechanics can make it a long process to actually gain ground as it relies on someone making a error on the timer or alarm clocking to make any ground.
Now hopefully with the Goons throwing their hat in as the 'Honorable third party' we may see N3 loosing space at a quicker rate |
Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
692
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Posted - 2013.11.26 03:10:00 -
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Garandras wrote:Its a case of When they start losing not If..
Atm the main thing that is dragging the war out is the TZ diffrence between the two blocs.. The N3 team has the dominace over the US/AU TZ's while the Stainwagon is mainly Rus/Euro and with current Sov mechanics can make it a long process to actually gain ground as it relies on someone making a error on the timer or alarm clocking to make any ground.
Now hopefully with the Goons throwing their hat in as the 'Honorable third party' we may see N3 loosing space at a quicker rate
Lyris Nairn is going to burn down all the things. |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1791
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Posted - 2013.11.26 03:13:00 -
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The only real question is whether it will be enough to save them. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
63
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Posted - 2013.11.26 03:15:00 -
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But tbh..
Can't wait for the war to be over.. so I can go back to solo/small gang pvp..
I feel like I have been neglecting Provi lately |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5242
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Posted - 2013.11.26 03:16:00 -
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time to prepare for the next alliance tournament? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6420
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Posted - 2013.11.26 03:23:00 -
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"starts" EVE Online - An Unstable Game |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5243
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Posted - 2013.11.26 05:02:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:"starts" now now, just because some third parties are having fun wrecking their home (the party got wild) There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
328
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Posted - 2013.11.26 05:11:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:Hi, I'd like to start a discussion on nullsec politics.
Not in my EvE General Discussion forums!!!!
GTFO NOW FROM MY SPACE INTERWEB PAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Unsuccessful's Assistant
The Troll Bridge
1
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Posted - 2013.11.26 05:19:00 -
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There is CAOD in the boss' GD.
My father will hear about this. |
Leigh Akiga
Trickle Down Economics
360
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Posted - 2013.11.26 05:33:00 -
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Unsuccessful's Assistant wrote:There is CAOD
CAOD is more dead than Jita Park
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
810
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Posted - 2013.11.26 05:39:00 -
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The real question is, how many failed alarm clock ops can the Russians take before they start throwing vodka?
CCP, trading shiny pictures for playability since 2003.. EvE, a cutting edge game. The only game to provide Matrix style gameplay for the masses! (trouble is, most people don't have 9 hours to waste on a one hour fight.) |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5243
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Posted - 2013.11.26 05:44:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:The real question is, how many failed alarm clock ops can the Russians take before they start throwing vodka? progodlegend has clearly planned for this There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
4487
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Posted - 2013.11.26 05:48:00 -
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If you go to COAD, where this belongs, you can post with your goon main. . |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2430
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Posted - 2013.11.26 06:07:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:If you go to COAD, where this belongs, you can post with your goon main.
I don't think it's really unreasonable for unrelated (but honourable) third parties to see the similarities between TEST and N3 and their respective relationships with PL and be curious. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5244
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Posted - 2013.11.26 06:38:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:If you go to COAD, where this belongs, you can post with your goon main. I don't think it's really unreasonable for unrelated (but honourable) third parties to see the similarities between TEST and N3 and their respective relationships with PL and be curious. Are we suddenly going to leave Solar/BL etc and run home because all our renter sov dropped
or because we need to prepare for alliance tournament There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
218
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Posted - 2013.11.26 07:06:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:If you go to COAD, where this belongs, you can post with your goon main. I don't think it's really unreasonable for unrelated (but honourable) third parties to see the similarities between TEST and N3 and their respective relationships with PL and be curious.
So N3 will be joining the Amarr faction warfare in a few months then?
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5244
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Posted - 2013.11.26 07:14:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:mynnna wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:If you go to COAD, where this belongs, you can post with your goon main. I don't think it's really unreasonable for unrelated (but honourable) third parties to see the similarities between TEST and N3 and their respective relationships with PL and be curious. So N3 will be joining the Amarr faction warfare in a few months then? First they need to go to a lowsec area, then npc null or something... then eventually there i guess There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2431
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Posted - 2013.11.26 07:16:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:mynnna wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:If you go to COAD, where this belongs, you can post with your goon main. I don't think it's really unreasonable for unrelated (but honourable) third parties to see the similarities between TEST and N3 and their respective relationships with PL and be curious. So N3 will be joining the Amarr faction warfare in a few months then?
Nulli has been there before, I'm sure they could return. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5244
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Posted - 2013.11.26 07:21:00 -
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instead of needing renters to destroy us, maybe they can use fw income instead There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Tore Vest
354
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Posted - 2013.11.26 07:44:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:Hi, I'd like to start a discussion on nullsec politics.
It is currently my opinion that if N3 starts to lose ground and PL assets are significantly at risk, PL will probobly abandon N3 and go back to being nomads.
Renter empire, you say? Sure, they'll stay to defend it if it is convenient for them, but they don't actually need it; PL can earn their ISK in other waysGÇö mercenary work for example.
To me, this is an option that makes a lot of sense considering PL's tight community. N3 is not a tight community, it is a bandwagon community. PL will mostly stick together if they lose their sov, whereas N3 will not.
Now, I could be totally wrong and PL will remain loyal to N3 even if a lot of pressure is put on them by CFC/Rus.
What are your opinions?
The Mittani.... is it you ?
No troll. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5244
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Posted - 2013.11.26 07:48:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:Hi, I'd like to start a discussion on nullsec politics.
It is currently my opinion that if N3 starts to lose ground and PL assets are significantly at risk, PL will probobly abandon N3 and go back to being nomads.
Renter empire, you say? Sure, they'll stay to defend it if it is convenient for them, but they don't actually need it; PL can earn their ISK in other waysGÇö mercenary work for example.
To me, this is an option that makes a lot of sense considering PL's tight community. N3 is not a tight community, it is a bandwagon community. PL will mostly stick together if they lose their sov, whereas N3 will not.
Now, I could be totally wrong and PL will remain loyal to N3 even if a lot of pressure is put on them by CFC/Rus.
What are your opinions? I believe it's been stated we have an agreement with PL
As such, NCdot and Nulli renters are being torched but not any BoT renter space...
Oh actually wait, we're just third parties and I guess Solar and BL don't have such agreements. Shrug There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
tiberiusric
Comply Or Die
48
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Posted - 2013.11.26 08:58:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:Hi, I'd like to start a discussion on nullsec politics.
It is currently my opinion that if N3 starts to lose ground and PL assets are significantly at risk, PL will probobly abandon N3 and go back to being nomads.
Renter empire, you say? Sure, they'll stay to defend it if it is convenient for them, but they don't actually need it; PL can earn their ISK in other waysGÇö mercenary work for example.
To me, this is an option that makes a lot of sense considering PL's tight community. N3 is not a tight community, it is a bandwagon community. PL will mostly stick together if they lose their sov, whereas N3 will not.
Now, I could be totally wrong and PL will remain loyal to N3 even if a lot of pressure is put on them by CFC/Rus.
What are your opinions?
PL will do whats best for PL. remember PL is an alliance not a coalition like N3, so its a different story.
PL will of course want to defend their renter income, its of utter importance, to a point that leadership have told PL members to treat renters in a good manner. That's how important it is. But PL will be there for the gud fights of course, and their allegiance is with NC. not N3 to be honest. Where PL can get on a **** ton of KMS they will do. However I don't feel PL are anything like they used to be at all. Don't feel they are the real game changes anymore, the old FCs don't FC now, the old guard that used to be so prominent are not, and PL is just a different animal, rather than being the truly kick you in your face, mess you up type alliance they used to be, they are just a bloated alliance with high sp players that have a lot of caps. I would like to see PL do a purge and get back to being serious game changers again
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
847
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Posted - 2013.11.26 09:17:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:Hi, I'd like to start a discussion on nullsec politics.
It is currently my opinion that if N3 starts to lose ground and PL assets are significantly at risk, PL will probobly abandon N3 and go back to being nomads.
Renter empire, you say? Sure, they'll stay to defend it if it is convenient for them, but they don't actually need it; PL can earn their ISK in other waysGÇö mercenary work for example.
To me, this is an option that makes a lot of sense considering PL's tight community. N3 is not a tight community, it is a bandwagon community. PL will mostly stick together if they lose their sov, whereas N3 will not.
Now, I could be totally wrong and PL will remain loyal to N3 even if a lot of pressure is put on them by CFC/Rus.
What are your opinions?
Get a character into a real corp to discuss eve politics. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Toshiro Ozuwara
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
325
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Posted - 2013.11.26 09:20:00 -
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tiberiusric wrote:I would like to see PL do a purge and get back to being serious game changers again
In the last 12 months, ATX winners. Biggest Super Cap dunk in Eve history. Kings of Lowsec.
What do they need to do to be game changers, walk on water? We teach ruthlessness and hazing. No blues. Kill everything.
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Signal11th
DARKNESS.
1132
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Posted - 2013.11.26 09:22:00 -
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Scorpion and the Frog. Powered by-áreaTh-áFilter V1.23 "All posts by this pilot are personal held views and not representitive of-áany-ácorp or alliance I am currently a member of. Like I'd give a-ásh*t anyway. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |
MestariBation
Fistful of Finns Bearf0rce One
44
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Posted - 2013.11.26 09:33:00 -
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Garandras wrote:Its a case of When they start losing not If..
Atm the main thing that is dragging the war out is the TZ diffrence between the two blocs.. The N3 team has the dominace over the US/AU TZ's while the Stainwagon is mainly Rus/Euro and with current Sov mechanics can make it a long process to actually gain ground as it relies on someone making a error on the timer or alarm clocking to make any ground.
Now hopefully with the Goons throwing their hat in as the 'Honorable third party' we may see N3 loosing space at a quicker rate Where is your dignity? Seriously dude, that is embarrassing Send me isk im poor |
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