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Josh Tempelaar
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.27 02:00:00 -
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Hey there folks, I just started this week and have been watching ALOT! of tutorials and Vids on Eve, I recently watched one video about joining corporations. And after wards something stuck me as a little odd and left me with a question. The Tutor was saying something about joining a Corp and after a while he'd been kicked and had all his assets stolen. Which makes me wonder, When you join a Corp do your assets automatically become theirs? If not then I guess it makes perfect sense having shared items in a Corp or guild is always a risky proposition. |
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.27 02:41:00 -
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Your assets continue to belong to you unless you give them to the corp.
If you store them in a station/outpost/POS that belongs to the corp, you might lose access to them. And if you store them in a corp hanger, your are giving them to the corp. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.27 02:53:00 -
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If you join a corporation (or even make one) your stuff still stays in YOUR hanger. The same applies to your money.
The only way a person can steal your assets is if...
- your assets and money are in the corporate hanger/wallet (which must be placed there by YOU). - the person stealing has access to the some hanger/wallet (which must be granted by the CEO or someone with access granting abilities).
Both conditions must be fulfilled.
Unless you COMPLETELY trust someone (see: you can potentially blow them (or their alts) up and/or you are in RL "leg-breaking distance") never hand over any assets to another person... not even if they offer to move them for you. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Josh Tempelaar
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.27 02:53:00 -
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Cheers thanks for the clarification |
Valleria Darkmoon
Heretic Army Heretic Initiative
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Posted - 2013.11.27 05:25:00 -
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For added peace of mind, the game will notify you when you are putting items into a corp hangar and that you may not be able to get them back, giving you the option to cancel the whole thing.
Thefts occur: - when you put your stuff in a corp hangar (especially shiny/expensive things). - when you join a corp and convince them to give you hangar access and then proceed to move all of it to your personal hangar.
If someone offers to move your stuff for you this can actually work quite well, but do it by way of courier contract with collateral at least equal to the value of what they are moving for you. (They will generally want to be paid some amount per jump for this service) But if they decide to rip off what you gave them to move you keep the collateral and so you just buy it back off the market again at no loss to yourself. (Completing the courier contract will refund the mover's collateral at the same time it delivers your things, so don't think you can just keep the collateral anyway) Some people actually make a living moving things for people. |
Cara Forelli
Darkstorm Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.27 19:55:00 -
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If you are interested in joining a player corp, you should definitely check out this thread, which has a lot of great info. www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
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Posted - 2013.11.27 20:02:00 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:If you are interested in joining a player corp, you should definitely check out this thread, which has a lot of great info.
Argh...too slow.
I fully back up that the link to NightCrawler's guide is one worth the read. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
Haedonism Bot
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2013.11.27 20:54:00 -
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There are a couple of other ways people steal the assets of new corp members. A common one for nullsec corps is to offer the new recruit free shipping to move all their assets out to HQ in null, then they simply steal the assets. You can avoid falling victim to this one by using a courier contract and setting collateral equal to or greater than the value of the items.
Another trick is to convince the recruit to pack all of their assets in a hauler of some sort and bring them to HQ in highsec, then ambush him along the way, destroy his ship and take whatever drops.
I'm not trying to make you paranoid. By all means, join a corp. the vast majority of Eve corps won't do these things to you, and you will have more fun in a player corp. But it is always a good idea in this game to have a little bit of skepticism about people you just met. everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
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Posted - 2013.11.27 22:23:00 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:There are a couple of other ways people steal the assets of new corp members. A common one for nullsec corps is to offer the new recruit free shipping to move all their assets out to HQ in null, then they simply steal the assets. You can avoid falling victim to this one by using a courier contract and setting collateral equal to or greater than the value of the items.
Another trick is to convince the recruit to pack all of their assets in a hauler of some sort and bring them to HQ in highsec, then ambush him along the way, destroy his ship and take whatever drops.
I'm not trying to make you paranoid. By all means, join a corp. the vast majority of Eve corps won't do these things to you, and you will have more fun in a player corp. But it is always a good idea in this game to have a little bit of skepticism about people you just met.
This.
NEVER put all your eggs in the same basket.
Always keep some sort of safety system for back up. In my 3 years, I always made sure that I at least kept some ships safe in a high-sec station, that in worst case, I would have to start over with those ships (luckily, so far I never needed that option). Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
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