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Erica Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration
1488
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Posted - 2013.11.28 22:35:00 -
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That Anathema loss yesterday must have really rustled your shorts Mr Phaade?
Alts and multi-boxing are just another part of EVE. *shrug*
You'll be ok! Get an alt and go get even.
Jered Hakaaros wrote: Its not a matter of ability, just a matter of belief, because it ruins the immersion, and the connection you feel to the game world through your character. I disagree. I roleplay a lot with my main, and occasionally with alts, I love immersion-gaming. But my alts are generally kept for support tasks, or to give me the ability to have eyes/ears in more than one place at once. That doesn't effect or diminish my immersion whatsoever.
Sometimes it's in fact all about ability. I rarely PVP with anything more than dual-box. I find it almost impossible to control and manage more than 2 ships in combat, not to mention I often need to buffer tank because again it's easier for me to manage ships than with active tanking while multiboxing.
Mining stuff or shooting stationary objects? Sure I'll log in 5 or 6 accounts lol Major (Ret.) Caldary Naval Militia | Morale Officer (Pinup model) CEO Nighthawk Exploration | Just an innocent explorer passing through-á pâä OOPE Pinup Calender applications |
Dani Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration
57
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Posted - 2013.11.28 22:35:00 -
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Phaade wrote:The people with multiple accounts are so easy to spot Sometimes that's the whole point... |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
66
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Posted - 2013.11.28 23:01:00 -
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Odithia wrote:I too think EVE would have been better if only 1 character per player was ever allowed, however it is too late to come back on that now.
Along with more "fairness" it certainly would have ad an effect on anti-social behavior (like corp awoxing) and have generated more player interaction.
I agree with you - it would have encouraged more cooperation between industrialists for one.
But it is too late to change it, so we'll live with it. I only have one account and I am having fun anyway! |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1374
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Posted - 2013.11.28 23:07:00 -
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1 person 1 acct < 1 person 2-?? accts...
Its a numbers game here...deal with it!
Support my (possibly dumb) Ideas!! Worm Rebalance!!! |
Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
181
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Posted - 2013.11.28 23:21:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Phaade wrote:
However, a lot of things are terribly unbalanced, driving away those of us who play a game solo (how it should be played IMO).
50,000 users online, prob 20,000 are alts. maybe more.
How does it drive away solo players? Have you ever multi-boxed PvP? That stuff is NOT EASY. In fact, it's a fantastic way to lose two ships instead of just one. So if you think a multiboxer has an advantage over you - do something unpredictable and chances are you'll throw him off balance and get a couple kill mails. As for multi-boxing for mining, etc, yeah, the m3 I make per hour is very large, but again, you need to average this out per account. Then it works out to exactly what you would make - a little bit more perhaps, because of better organization between hauling and mining, and none of my alts is going to steal my stuff, but not much of an advantage. Remember I pay for 7 subs. So the actual minerals per US dollar paid in subs is exactly what you will get. How is that unfair? You might as well scream that life is unfair because I can afford more than you. Well, that's up to you.
Are you seriously measuring your epeen by the number of accounts you have subbed? Just so you know, you're as insignificant as the OP. A proud member of Wolfbane Hauler Inc. We are currently recruiting pilots of all skill levels. We need both industrial combat specialists. For more information see our ad:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3764273&#post3764273 |
Old Phill
Republic University Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2013.11.28 23:28:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I have a lot of accts, but I don't multi-box much. I just use whatever character suits what I'm doing at the moment. I don't feel that my game suffers in the least that some guy has 15 Retrievers in a belt in my system. In fact, I find it makes a nice target rich environment. Mr Epeen
everytime ive seen mass multibox miners lately its been skiffs or the t1 version |
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
260
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Posted - 2013.11.28 23:35:00 -
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Phaade wrote:Other people are playing the game differently than I, and I don't like it!
Business as usual, get the **** over it. |
Caladin Brood
Dirty Rotten Scoundrel's
4
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Posted - 2013.11.28 23:37:00 -
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I just started an decided my best way forward was 2 accounts, does that mean im ruining the game for oyu? |
Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
1985
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Posted - 2013.11.28 23:43:00 -
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Oh come on, you're not even trying to stealth this "EVE is dying" thread.
As a single account holder myself, I'm calling you out. L2P. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Whim Aqayn
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
76
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Posted - 2013.11.28 23:52:00 -
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I agree. It destroys the sandbox and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar or ignorant of the facts.
The question is how long the income from people having multiple accounts will outweigh the players the game loses because of them. |
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Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
1985
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Posted - 2013.11.28 23:56:00 -
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Whim Aqayn wrote:...anyone who claims otherwise is a liar or ignorant of the facts.
Please qualify your offensive and presumptuous blanket assertions about people who have been playing this game for the entire decade it's existed, or gtfo. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Whim Aqayn
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
76
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Posted - 2013.11.28 23:58:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Whim Aqayn wrote:...anyone who claims otherwise is a liar or ignorant of the facts.
Please qualify your offensive and presumptuous blanket assertions about people who have been playing this game for the entire decade it's existed, or gtfo. Not until you prove that it isn't so. |
Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
181
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Posted - 2013.11.28 23:59:00 -
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Whim Aqayn wrote:I agree. It destroys the sandbox and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar or ignorant of the facts.
The question is how long the income from people having multiple accounts will outweigh the players the game loses because of them.
This my first time, so I'm a bit nervous, but... Can I have your stuff? A proud member of Wolfbane Hauler Inc. We are currently recruiting pilots of all skill levels. We need both industrial combat specialists. For more information see our ad:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3764273&#post3764273 |
Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
181
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:04:00 -
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Whim Aqayn wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Whim Aqayn wrote:...anyone who claims otherwise is a liar or ignorant of the facts.
Please qualify your offensive and presumptuous blanket assertions about people who have been playing this game for the entire decade it's existed, or gtfo. Not until you prove that it isn't so.
I've got this one. I have 2 accounts, my CEO has 5 or more and other corp members have multiple as well. But! We have recently gained 3 new players as members, each of whom has one account, and none of them are frightened off by our evil multiple account conspiracy. A proud member of Wolfbane Hauler Inc. We are currently recruiting pilots of all skill levels. We need both industrial combat specialists. For more information see our ad:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3764273&#post3764273 |
Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
1985
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:06:00 -
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Whim Aqayn wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Whim Aqayn wrote:...anyone who claims otherwise is a liar or ignorant of the facts.
Please qualify your offensive and presumptuous blanket assertions about people who have been playing this game for the entire decade it's existed, or gtfo. Not until you prove that it isn't so.
You haven't proven that it is. You have made an assertion without providing a qualifyer to begin with, so I've nothing to disprove. Your assertions made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
But I'll bite. I am a single account holder and my experience on EVE, though only a little under 2 years old, has been quite fulfilling. I actually fought a multiboxer the other day, solo'd his Moa and Algos, and killed them both. You can look up my KB yourself, of course, to see how thoroughly fulfilling my single account experience has been.
I would suggest that if your single account experience has been not fulfilling, you are either doing something wrong or playing the wrong game. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
1985
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:10:00 -
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Xavier Higdon wrote:Whim Aqayn wrote:I agree. It destroys the sandbox and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar or ignorant of the facts.
The question is how long the income from people having multiple accounts will outweigh the players the game loses because of them. This my first time, so I'm a bit nervous, but... Can I have your stuff?
*haz. Use the word haz, it's just more fun to say it that way and helps break the ice your first time around.
It's even more fun when you say it lolcatz style, like:
"I can haz ur stuff noaw??" You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5269
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:10:00 -
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Yeah, I myself have 4 accounts and occasionally run even more.
It's me, a goon, killing the game
grr There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
261
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:21:00 -
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Whim Aqayn wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Whim Aqayn wrote:...anyone who claims otherwise is a liar or ignorant of the facts.
Please qualify your offensive and presumptuous blanket assertions about people who have been playing this game for the entire decade it's existed, or gtfo. Not until you prove that it isn't so.
Oh look, someone who doesn't understand how burden of proof works. |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
486
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:25:00 -
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Phaade wrote:However, a lot of things are terribly unbalanced, driving away those of us who play a game solo (how it should be played IMO). MMOGs are supposed to be played solo? [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
Brendan Anneto
Dread Phoenix Society Fidelas Constans
2
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:26:00 -
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Phaade wrote:This game is single-handedly ruined by those which multi-box 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, etc accounts.
It is an almost insurmountable advantage, and those of us who actually like to do things solo are completely ****** by it.
Something CCP really should address before Eve dies off completely as it truly ruins the experience for those of us with other things to do in life.
Just because i can fly whole AHAC and slow cat fleets by my self, does not give you any right to complain. |
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Erica Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration
1488
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:28:00 -
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Whim Aqayn wrote:The question is how long the income from people having multiple accounts will outweigh the players the game loses because of them. Just crazy talk.
IMO there's three types of players who're against multiboxing: Someone who keeps dying to what they suspect are multiboxers, or who's struggling to make income solo and resents watching multiboxers doing better. And then there's the people who dearly want to multibox but for w/e reason can't afford to do so and thus grow to resent those who can.
Just like going solo, multiboxing is what you make it. That often differs from player to player.
Advantage? **** I have more accounts than most people I play with yet I have the least ISK and am not that successful at PvP. Please explain to me this mythical advantage I have over others? An advantage that outweighs my financial investment? Major (Ret.) Caldary Naval Militia | Morale Officer (Pinup model) CEO Nighthawk Exploration | Just an innocent explorer passing through-á pâä OOPE Pinup Calender applications |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5269
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:28:00 -
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Brendan Anneto wrote:Phaade wrote:This game is single-handedly ruined by those which multi-box 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, etc accounts.
It is an almost insurmountable advantage, and those of us who actually like to do things solo are completely ****** by it.
Something CCP really should address before Eve dies off completely as it truly ruins the experience for those of us with other things to do in life. Just because i can fly whole AHAC and slow cat fleets by my self, does not give you any right to complain. wow, you must be really elite pvp
drone assist dominixes as well? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5269
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:30:00 -
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Lyris Nairn multiboxed miners for about a month to make mad isk
he burned out of eve and didn't return until a little before we started being a third party. welp. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Brendan Anneto
Dread Phoenix Society Fidelas Constans
2
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:31:00 -
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Lailyana Enaka wrote:*puts on tinfoil hat*
yup EvE is dying, just today i went to jita and there was only 1200 in local. btw can I haz your stuff
Jita is not EVE. It is just a Care bear retirement home
.................................. (''') -+___-+ (''') ..\ '( -+_-+ )' / ....\ \_-¿_/ / ......l . . . . l ...../ ./"U"\. \ ..(GÇPGÇPGÇP)___ (GÇPGÇPGÇP)
DONT SHOOT Im a carebear! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5269
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:33:00 -
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Brendan Anneto wrote:Lailyana Enaka wrote:*puts on tinfoil hat*
yup EvE is dying, just today i went to jita and there was only 1200 in local. btw can I haz your stuff Jita is not EVE. It is just a Care bear retirement home .................................. (''') -+___-+ (''') ..\ '( -+_-+ )' / ....\ \_-¿_/ / ......l . . . . l ...../ ./"U"\. \ ..(GÇPGÇPGÇP)___ (GÇPGÇPGÇP) DONT SHOOT Im a carebear! was it tidied There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Brendan Anneto
Dread Phoenix Society Fidelas Constans
2
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:41:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Brendan Anneto wrote:Phaade wrote:This game is single-handedly ruined by those which multi-box 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, etc accounts.
It is an almost insurmountable advantage, and those of us who actually like to do things solo are completely ****** by it.
Something CCP really should address before Eve dies off completely as it truly ruins the experience for those of us with other things to do in life. Just because i can fly whole AHAC and slow cat fleets by my self, does not give you any right to complain. wow, you must be really elite pvp drone assist dominixes as well?
You have no idea Proverbs 1:26-27 |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1693
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:56:00 -
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Whim Aqayn wrote:I agree. It destroys the sandbox and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar or ignorant of the facts.
The question is how long the income from people having multiple accounts will outweigh the players the game loses because of them.
So far, slightly over ten years. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5269
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Posted - 2013.11.29 01:16:00 -
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oh snap There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
680
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Posted - 2013.11.29 03:16:00 -
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Are we talking about PvP? Who cares what people with more than one account do in PvE situations. They certainly aren't killing the game.
Whim Aqayn wrote:It destroys the sandbox and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar or ignorant of the facts.
You seem pretty ignorant of any facts. Feel free to provide some though!
A single player can massively improve their dps and abilities in pvp from multiboxing, the trade-off being that he is alot more vulnerable to changing situations.
Given two equal fleets, one a multiboxer and one a group of individual pilots, i'd put my money on the group of individuals every time. Post with your main, like a BOSS! |
Iria Ahrens
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2013.11.29 03:20:00 -
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I prefer solo play, or at least single character play. And I don't feel that multi-boxers affects my play negatively at all. They do what they think is fun, I do what I think is fun, we are all having fun. Because you disdained all my counsel, and my reproof you ignoredGÇö I, in my turn, will laugh at your doom; will mock when terror overtakes you; -- Ultimate Griefer's Handbook |
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