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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.02.28 17:09:00 -
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Ok, in eve we got 1000 and 1 antipirate corporations, ranging from empire mining to Celestial nubpocalypse. That was once grate *cough* antipirate force.
But who is the antipirates of EVE that every outlaw fear, when they see him in local?
Who are the inviduals of EVE that kill outlaws and evildooers. Protect the innocent or just hunt for sport of it?
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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.02.28 17:16:00 -
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My proposal is Viceroy
He has "cloachaxed" as he put it, many outlaws.
He also workked with one invidual that was the very father of so called "cloachax". Altho he developed "cloachax" for pirating.
Its irony how pirates are meeting theyr doom by the very same measures that were developed by pirates.
Well as old saying goes: only one in eve that can kill pirate, is a pirate (or ex pirate)
Also there is some notorios reports have come in, that some other entity, asumingly the very father of "cloachax", is workking with Viceroy on cases. Reports have told, that together, the two are unstoppable.
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2006.02.28 17:18:00 -
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The only efficient pirate gankers I have personal experience of are Digiblast & Taz Devlin. Cult of Cthulhu are apparently very good as well. Also U'K and other roleplayers tend to protect their race's space from pirates.
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.02.28 17:19:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 28/02/2006 17:20:12 The only anti-pirates that make me think twice are Marko Debrault and Generatorn. Kia and CoC can be problematic too, but only in groups.
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Superbus Maximus
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Posted - 2006.02.28 18:05:00 -
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Edited by: Superbus Maximus on 28/02/2006 18:10:21 None esspecially not Viceroy and his GHSC buddies.
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The Knight
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Posted - 2006.02.28 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Well as old saying goes: only one in eve that can kill pirate, is a pirate (or ex pirate)
That old saying is very out-dated and simply not true. Tactics can make up for a severe lack of skills, ships, and equipment.
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2006.02.28 18:43:00 -
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I'd accept that as a truism: ie, the only way they catch "us" is being like "us" from a tactical standpoint. I know that's the only reason I've lost a ship in months is that one of them decided to tank sentries at station I was at trying to gank a war target when he decided to assist.
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Ginger Magician
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Posted - 2006.02.28 19:20:00 -
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Generaton and Farjung have given me some trouble.Although what they do is not particulary skillfull brave or risky they do it with some effeciency unfortunately.
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Jonkai
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Posted - 2006.02.28 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Scalor Valentis Ok, in eve we got 1000 and 1 antipirate corporations, ranging from empire mining to Celestial nubpocalypse. That was once grate *cough* antipirate force.
But who is the antipirates of EVE that every outlaw fear, when they see him in local?
Who are the inviduals of EVE that kill outlaws and evildooers. Protect the innocent or just hunt for sport of it?
18 Wars against pirate corps and all they do is hide, I would say CELES are the most feared.
Next...
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Psycarne
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Posted - 2006.02.28 20:33:00 -
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If you doubt celestial apocalypse's pvp abilitys you are the noob mate. ------------- Order of the Wombles: Recycling those untidy modules on your ship.
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Lsv1
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Posted - 2006.03.01 00:34:00 -
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I'm out doing some belt piracy owning some pylons out of the belts and BAM five(5) month old alts warp in in like Desty's/Caracal's/Ferox's and one Scorp. I'm all for sportsmanship and even getting ganked by a blob cuz hey.. when I blob I win, when I get blobbed I lose... As is life... It'd just be nice to know who these guys were, not just some SWA alt blob. And why the main's didn't all just get together to blob me and my mates. :)
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.03.01 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: Psycarne If you doubt celestial apocalypse's pvp abilitys you are the noob mate.
Celes apear to have stopped being as relentless as they once were.
Marco Debrault (sp?) is one to be wary of, he has unlimited patience when waiting for a target. Ive never been hunted by anyone else in the lat few yrs that comes close.
And Wrangler > j00 -Eldo
I pwnt Wrangler - Tenacha |
tiller
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Posted - 2006.03.01 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Scalor Valentis My proposal is Viceroy
He has "cloachaxed" as he put it, many outlaws.
He also workked with one invidual that was the very father of so called "cloachax". Altho he developed "cloachax" for pirating.
Its irony how pirates are meeting theyr doom by the very same measures that were developed by pirates.
Well as old saying goes: only one in eve that can kill pirate, is a pirate (or ex pirate)
Also there is some notorios reports have come in, that some other entity, asumingly the very father of "cloachax", is workking with Viceroy on cases. Reports have told, that together, the two are unstoppable.
I'd second that, well he created a omgimgonnabbq moment for me. I was flagged at gate in raven and I see his falcon (t2 recon cruiser thing I think) on scanner.. good I thought, a nice easy kill. Wrong...
I was jammed, double scrambled and sat there dieing. (FOFs shoot the sentrys when flagged)
Lucky I had a alliance member in raven near by to call in to make him warp out. I never camped that gate again solo when he was in ostigele local. GJ!
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2006.03.01 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Scalor Valentis Celestial nubpocalypse. That was once grate *cough* antipirate force.
I resent that comment and will be coming to explode you...later.
If you think we're so crap come on down to Obe and we'll show you.
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2006.03.01 08:15:00 -
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When I was a pirate Marcopollo would make things difficult and so would Spikum from G.
I know CoC are very good but at the time they didnt visit our old area.
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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.03.01 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 01/03/2006 07:05:30
Originally by: Scalor Valentis My proposal is Viceroy
He has "cloachaxed" as he put it, many outlaws.
He also workked with one invidual that was the very father of so called "cloachax". Altho he developed "cloachax" for pirating.
Its irony how pirates are meeting theyr doom by the very same measures that were developed by pirates.
Well as old saying goes: only one in eve that can kill pirate, is a pirate (or ex pirate)
Also there is some notorios reports have come in, that some other entity, asumingly the very father of "cloachax", is workking with Viceroy on cases. Reports have told, that together, the two are unstoppable.
I'd second that, well he created a omgimgonnabbq moment for me. I was flagged at gate in raven and I see his falcon (t2 recon cruiser thing I think) on scanner.. good I thought, a nice easy kill. Wrong...
I was jammed, double scrambled and sat there dieing. (FOFs shoot the sentrys when flagged)
Lucky I had a alliance member in raven near by to call in to make him warp out. I never camped that gate again solo when he was in ostingele local. GJ!
Heheh, the very same thing Siddy gave him as a Xsmas present, good thing hes putting it to good use
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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.03.01 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kinsy
Originally by: Scalor Valentis Celestial nubpocalypse. That was once grate *cough* antipirate force.
I resent that comment and will be coming to explode you...later.
If you think we're so crap come on down to Obe and we'll show you.
Sush nub, for you dont know who you are adressing in here.
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slothe
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Posted - 2006.03.01 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: slothe on 01/03/2006 09:18:32
I would say that celestial apocalypse are in fact pirates ganking innocent miners of peaceful alliances on 0.0 borders :)
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2006.03.01 09:26:00 -
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Celes to me is the old warrior gone fat, lazzy liveing on his old days of glory while drinking more beer, when call out wavers around with a drunken footage and no real wil to fight those dirteh campers
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2006.03.01 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: Lifewire on 01/03/2006 18:13:25 Some examples of good or less good pirate hunters, each with a short story.
Celestial Apocalypse:
In the early game some Space Invaders, Zombies, Teddybears and Tundragons did a joint operation in Syndicate, terrorizing the area really hard wich made the Arcadia alliance retreat to empire and also the Norad alliance suffer heavy casualties. One day, we were roaming arround with 20 pirate ships, we got recon of a 20 ship group of Celestial Apocalypse pilots closing to Syndicate to kill us. We werenŠt very good fitted to PVP (more a full of scramblers and webbers setup) but we decided to welcome them. In the early days of EVE there were only very few pirate hunters with balls and so we loved that these guys came to kill us - especially for us. Was a question of honor that we would fight them. We lost Tenachas Megathron and i guess all had a lot of fun this evening.
Ushra Kahns: We moved to Amamake because the Rancer traffic became really crappy and on the first evening a 30 ship group of UKs attacked our 3 sniper camp - we had to flee and dock. That was were i developped the idea of a brutal pirate hunter trap. Next day our 3 snipers went to do their job, but we cloaked 10 well fitted deathspitting gunships 50 km of them - all 425 or howitzer fitted. We had to wait but i was sure that the UKs would come. So we waited for nearly 2 hours - finally they came. Again a 30 ship blob in local. Once we had them on scanner i ordered to uncloak. I have never seen a blob run that fast. 6 or 7 of their ships dindnt make it out. I offer this free know-how because we now have much more effective ways to kill pirate hunters . All in all the UKs tryed their best to keep the trade line clear - but we try our best to keep the trade lines interupted lol.
Cult of Culthullu: After the UK incident i though that if this works so fine with n00bs, also good PVPers would be tricked very easy that way. So we got recon of a COC team that wanted to kill our sniper team. Quickly we got 3 cloaked gunships near our snipers before their covert ops is in position. As planned the Culties jump in, warp to their covert ops and start to gank our "sniper" - wich is full of scramblers and tanked. But the Culties are good gankers and so we each loose one very good fitted BS.
Unknown 2 assault ship pilots: As allways i told the others not to go sniping without an EW specialist that can handle any form of pirate hunter attacks. But Myal Tenego and Chode donŠt listen to uncle Lifewire and go sniping with 2 gunships. As they deserve it, 2 enyo pirate hunters warp close to them and start killing Chodes BS. Myal trys to help and moves away from Chode to fire his large guns on the assault ships - but no way: they sink Chodes BS and also Myal has to flee. I donŠt know who those 2 guys were - but i have to say: well done!
All in all pirate hunters offer a lot of fun to us and are the highlight of a good hunt at evening. I just want to add this: if you are a pirate hunter and your sneak attack failed, then donŠt wait for us. If we didnt want to fight, you had too many ships or we had disanvantadges that make it impossible for us to win. DonŠt hang arround in local for hours - you just waste our and your time. Try it next day again - thatŠs much better.
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2006.03.01 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tenacha Khan
Originally by: Psycarne If you doubt celestial apocalypse's pvp abilitys you are the noob mate.
Celes apear to have stopped being as relentless as they once were.
Marco Debrault (sp?) is one to be wary of, he has unlimited patience when waiting for a target. Ive never been hunted by anyone else in the lat few yrs that comes close.
That's because marko has some kind of inate "bonus" that allows him to sniff sheit out in SS's faster than anyone in the game. He's a good example of some type of psychological element to the game where it's not math or stiff strategies that spell success. Instead it's some type of cop like "hunch" that comes from an understanding of human emotion and behavior. Or some sheit like that
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.03.01 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lifewire We moved to Amamake because the Rancer traffic became really crappy and on the first evening a 30 ship group of UKs attacked our 3 sniper camp - we had to flee and dock. That was were i developped the idea of a brutal pirate hunter trap. Next day our 3 snipers went to do their job, but we cloaked 10 well fitted deathspitting gunships 50 km of them - all 425 or howitzer fitted. We had to wait but i was sure that the UKs would come. So we waited for nearly 2 hours - finally they came. Again a 30 ship blob in local. Once we had them on scanner i ordered to uncloak. I have never seen a blob run that fast. 6 or 7 of their ships dindnt make it out. I offer this free know-how because we now have much more effective ways to kill pirate hunters . All in all the UKs tryed their best to keep the trade line clear - but we try our best to keep the trade lines interupted lol.
I had the same idea...but I would have to pay my own corp mates to sit cloaked for that long at a gate and not shoot anything.
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2006.03.01 20:45:00 -
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Quote: but I would have to pay my own corp mates to sit cloaked for that long at a gate and not shoot anything
Believe me - was big fun and worth the time to see a whole blob run in panic.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.03.01 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lifewire
Quote: but I would have to pay my own corp mates to sit cloaked for that long at a gate and not shoot anything
Believe me - was big fun and worth the time to see a whole blob run in panic.
too right it was except Torpedos fraps ended up being us on ts and his hauler alt sitting at gate in next system
And Wrangler > j00 -Eldo
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Fedaykin Naib
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Posted - 2006.03.02 01:25:00 -
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Be afraid.
"Long Live the Fighters!"
"The weak come and go with time. The strong have remained" - v ger
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Odet
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Posted - 2006.03.02 03:50:00 -
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Originally by: Fedaykin Naib Be afraid.
of?
_______I podded a Dev and all I got was this lousy Implant_______ =This podding has been brought to you by Odet, the only way to fry.= |
Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2006.03.02 05:55:00 -
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Originally by: Scalor Valentis Who are the inviduals of EVE that kill outlaws and evildooers.
Down in Domain and Tash-Murkon, the CVA guys have a few rather scary do-gooders.
The Auctoritan Syndicate pilots are quite relentless. And then there's Garreck, a 105% pure griefing machine of ceaseless killing that, for some weird bug in his programming, shoots baddies instead of haulers.
(I mean, what kind of do-gooder would have a negative sec status, a bounty on its head, and open fire first under the sentries just to nail down a poor working pirate?!? I mean, call me a purist, but mixing roles like that is just plain wrong!! )
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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.03.02 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Fedaykin Naib Be afraid.
Feyd, even Siddy antipirat more than you thees days.
and his Tempest is Bigger than yours.
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2006.03.02 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lifewire
Cult of Culthullu: After the UK incident i though that if this works so fine with n00bs, also good PVPers would be tricked very easy that way. So we got recon of a COC team that wanted to kill our sniper team. Quickly we got 3 cloaked gunships near our snipers before their covert ops is in position. As planned the Culties jump in, warp to their covert ops and start to gank our "sniper" - wich is full of scramblers and tanked. But the Culties are good gankers and so we each loose one very good fitted BS.
I just watched the fraps from that incident. We had 4 BS and a HAC, you had 2 BS sniping and 6 more cloaked (of which one scorp was not in your corp but still jammed some of us). The lag was horrible, so bad for us that the domi we lost couldn't actually align to get out after your domi went down, and consequently went down. Nice trap, though
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2006.03.02 20:14:00 -
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Quote: I just watched the fraps from that incident
I love traps . DonŠt remember ships involved - however, can we have this fraps? Our frapser failed as usually
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