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Omituinen Poro
NanoTech Imperium
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Posted - 2013.12.01 19:17:00 -
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Hei,
I'm relatively new to larger scale industry and trading and so my question might seem a bit newbish. But please bear with me. Ofttimes I find myself perusing the "Sell orders" forum section and one thing has struck as very , very odd.
Every single T2 BPO auction I have seen been completed/sold in the past couple of months, has been a ludicrously terrible investment ISK-wise (according to my calculus). Just out of curiosity I have been running numbers on some of the BPO's and their respective auctions but I consistently keep getting 100% ROI times of 8-10 years, sometimes even higher. Does one even need to estimate the amount of time to gain back the investment with these BPO's? Does one assume that the resell value is higher than the purchase value?
Are all the buyers of these BPO's buying them just for the collectibility of them or what is the logic behind these purchases? Is there any?
Please enlighten a confused soul if you have any sort of understanding on this matter.
Poro |
Huttan Funaila
Terminal Radioactivity Spaceship Samurai
230
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Posted - 2013.12.01 19:32:00 -
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Stamp collectors seem to be the new market for T2 BPO. A couple folks with very deep pockets have decided to buy what they can, and then resell them for double what they paid. You are correct, for those BPO, the math does not work out for manufacturing the items. The math only works out for stamp collecting. |
X ATM092
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
129
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Posted - 2013.12.01 19:33:00 -
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory
Limited issue items such as t2 bpos and AT hulls have actually offered some of the best passive isk returns in the game, many appreciating at around 10%/month for the last year. You don't hold it for the isk generating potential, you hold it to resell it to someone else at a higher price.
My personal opinion regarding the reason for this state of affairs is that wealth inflation in the top 1% is increasing at a far faster rate than it is among the general population and these items which are pretty much exclusively traded among the super rich are priced based upon the disposable income and need to sell things for liquidity of that group. Their perceived value has remained constant among that group but the amount of isk at the disposal of that group, and therefore the value they place on their isk, has changed. They inflate in value in proportion to the wallets of the people who deal in them and those wallets increase in size at a far faster rate than those of the general population. |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
2096
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Posted - 2013.12.01 21:13:00 -
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You buy them with the intention of selling them a year later at double the price. The profit you make from manufacturing is just a little extra if you can be bothered fighting the industry UI. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1263
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Posted - 2013.12.01 22:06:00 -
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X ATM092 wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory
Limited issue items such as t2 bpos and AT hulls have actually offered some of the best passive isk returns in the game, many appreciating at around 10%/month for the last year. You don't hold it for the isk generating potential, you hold it to resell it to someone else at a higher price.
My personal opinion regarding the reason for this state of affairs is that wealth inflation in the top 1% is increasing at a far faster rate than it is among the general population and these items which are pretty much exclusively traded among the super rich are priced based upon the disposable income and need to sell things for liquidity of that group. Their perceived value has remained constant among that group but the amount of isk at the disposal of that group, and therefore the value they place on their isk, has changed. They inflate in value in proportion to the wallets of the people who deal in them and those wallets increase in size at a far faster rate than those of the general population.
This is completely correct.
Interestingly, it's similar to the housing rental market in Australia. Noone in their right mind buys a house for the income from renting it out, a bank will pay more interest if you just deposit the money. Landlords buy houses because they anticipate capital gains, and rent covers half the interest payments on a mortgage.
T2 BPOs are the same. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
Rainbow Dash
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.12.02 03:40:00 -
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In a world of infinite resources, finite commodities will have value, if only for the prestige they grant. |
Jdestars
Stars Research systems Incorporation
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Posted - 2013.12.02 12:48:00 -
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they are a another reason : The irrational thought of the fantastic gainsthat gets the BP0 T2
As other BPO , T2 have limits of Monthly produc , but this BPO allows to have a fixed cost of the expenses of BP, indeed the amortization follows the rule :
CostBpoRun= BuyPriceBpo / (ProductMonth * 12*ReferalPeriodeGame)*MaxRunBpo
ProductMonth= ( indication of Time production in Bpo Attribut , you can calculate them ) ReferalPeriodeGame ( period in Year ) MaxRunBpo ( indicat in Bpo Attribut )
in This case the buyer engage all isk in Bpo and need to have some visibility and stability to recovers isk of Bpo if he/she dont want to Sell his precious
But for the BPC of invention it is more to complicate to determine the cost Certain players use the limit in the infinity of the rate of success of the function of invention but it is an errordBecause of the inherent parameter of distribution of this function check : Bernouilli distribution Binomial distribution
Limit of this function to infini = near zero , but not null (some risk to have 0 succes in ten year exist ;) Limit of engaged isk to infini = Near infinit ( function type y=aX )
for exemple with an AS if we use 1 character for invention bpo and other for Bpc T1
( with all skill at V )
NumberMaxinvention for Pos : 29 perMonth MaxNbRun = 11 lignes*29*12 = 3828 try by year
ReferalPeriodProd = 10year => 38 290 try ( not near of infinity)
%success (per try)= 39.38 %( with user manual )
but in periode product some player have 100% succes and some other have 0 success ,we need to use an average value .. so player by invention engaged 38290 * Run cost gain almost 10% of successif we calculate the distribution function
when you buy a BPO dont forget this point - use same run referal period with same run value - the Cost of BPO must be lower than the Max Engaged isk of inventor in same periode (therefore bpo stat are more efficiency)
BUT This reasoning would be valid if there was an adequacy of the market with the costs of prod with-0.01 isk rulers , first vendor rulers and trader strategy , math skill of player ... are your worst and major proble |
X ATM092
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
133
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:03:00 -
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Rainbow Dash wrote:In a world of infinite resources, finite commodities will have value, if only for the prestige they grant. Not necessarily true. For example a lot of large rigged frigates are rarer than AT hulls while having not much less combat potential. It's not enough for things to be rare, they need to be perceived as rare. |
Omituinen Poro
NanoTech Imperium
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Posted - 2013.12.02 14:40:00 -
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Thank you for the enlightening replies.
So basically in this case the commodity is perceived as ultrarare, therefore increasing its value, while it also grants a steady income all the while hoping that a "Greater fool" will buy it from you with a even more inflated price.
At least by the last two parameters this is akin to a "bubble" situation, is it not? |
X ATM092
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
134
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Posted - 2013.12.02 15:02:00 -
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Omituinen Poro wrote:Thank you for the enlightening replies.
So basically in this case the commodity is perceived as ultrarare, therefore increasing its value, while it also grants a steady income all the while hoping that a "Greater fool" will buy it from you with a even more inflated price.
At least by the last two parameters this is akin to a "bubble" situation, is it not? A bubble in a society with unlimited wealth generation and accumulation. |
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Dersk
Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
180
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Posted - 2013.12.02 23:23:00 -
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X ATM092 wrote:wealth inflation in the top 1% is increasing at a far faster rate than it is among the general population
You should spearhead a minimum wage for that poor 99%. I hear it helps with income inequality. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1271
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Posted - 2013.12.02 23:51:00 -
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X ATM092 wrote:Omituinen Poro wrote:Thank you for the enlightening replies.
So basically in this case the commodity is perceived as ultrarare, therefore increasing its value, while it also grants a steady income all the while hoping that a "Greater fool" will buy it from you with a even more inflated price.
At least by the last two parameters this is akin to a "bubble" situation, is it not? A bubble in a society with unlimited wealth generation and accumulation.
Such an environment can still have bubbles burst. I have seen it in other MMOs. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
Rainbow Dash
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.12.03 21:37:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:X ATM092 wrote:Omituinen Poro wrote:Thank you for the enlightening replies.
So basically in this case the commodity is perceived as ultrarare, therefore increasing its value, while it also grants a steady income all the while hoping that a "Greater fool" will buy it from you with a even more inflated price.
At least by the last two parameters this is akin to a "bubble" situation, is it not? A bubble in a society with unlimited wealth generation and accumulation. Such an environment can still have bubbles burst. I have seen it in other MMOs.
Sure, for items like AT ships and such a bubble burst is inevitable, but this is an item that also makes you money as you hold onto it. The price drastically falling just means the time it takes to earn back your investment falls as well.
Outside of CCP intervention, or the T2 market getting gutted, the "bubble" will probably never burst.
Also, frigs with large rigs aren't really "rare". I mean, you can't get them anymore, but there's probably thousands, if not tens of thousands, of them out there. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1278
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Posted - 2013.12.03 23:40:00 -
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Rainbow Dash wrote:
Sure, for items like AT ships and such a bubble burst is inevitable, but this is an item that also makes you money as you hold onto it. The price drastically falling just means the time it takes to earn back your investment falls as well.
Outside of CCP intervention, or the T2 market getting gutted, the "bubble" will probably never burst.
Also, frigs with large rigs aren't really "rare". I mean, you can't get them anymore, but there's probably thousands, if not tens of thousands, of them out there.
In real life, actually productive assets get into bubbles often, and they sometimes crash hard. There isn't financed purchases of BPOs in EVE creating urgent sales the way that the RL American housing market had in 2008, but all that it really takes for an individual BPO to crash in price is a metagame shift that makes the items it builds undesirable.
For instance, if you purchased a Light Neutron Blaster II BPO, and the New Order stopped operations tomorrow with no alternate organisation filling the void in highsec Catalyst ganking, your BPO will fall sharply in profitability and hence in value. (You might still be able to sell it to a sucker at a price exceeding its new value, but someone's taking a loss here).
All it takes is for word to spread of a few big losses taken on T2 BPOs to undermine investor confidence in them, and you may start to see more and more people selling out of the market. That is how a bubble bursts. This doesn't happen if the items are a sensible use of productive capital, but T2 BPOs are not even a remotely sensible investment for any purpose other than chasing capital gains. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
X ATM092
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
135
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Posted - 2013.12.03 23:55:00 -
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I doubt there is a single bantam with even one large remote rep cap use rig, nor can there ever be one now. It's up there with the golden magnate. All it lacks is the perception of value. |
joyous the
Slippery Penguin
25
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Posted - 2013.12.04 02:03:00 -
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Rainbow Dash wrote:
Sure, for items like AT ships and such a bubble burst is inevitable
I remember being laughed at for trying to sell my guardian vexor for 20b.
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joyous the
Slippery Penguin
25
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Posted - 2013.12.04 02:18:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
All it takes is for word to spread of a few big losses taken on T2 BPOs to undermine investor confidence in them, and you may start to see more and more people selling out of the market. That is how a bubble bursts. This doesn't happen if the items are a sensible use of productive capital, but T2 BPOs are not even a remotely sensible investment for any purpose other than chasing capital gains.
Ya know, outside of the fact that high-end bpos don't get panic sold and are competed for by the same people on every auction, and any low/med bpo that's undervalued gets scooped up by resellers.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1279
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Posted - 2013.12.04 04:41:00 -
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joyous the wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
All it takes is for word to spread of a few big losses taken on T2 BPOs to undermine investor confidence in them, and you may start to see more and more people selling out of the market. That is how a bubble bursts. This doesn't happen if the items are a sensible use of productive capital, but T2 BPOs are not even a remotely sensible investment for any purpose other than chasing capital gains.
Ya know, outside of the fact that high-end bpos don't get panic sold and are competed for by the same people on every auction, and any low/med bpo that's undervalued gets scooped up by resellers.
IRL, the same thing happened to residential property in Detroit in 2006. And also in 1998, long before the crash. Some properties got sold by determined or desperate sellers at low prices. Speculators bought them up ASAP, expecting capital gains.
Some of those speculators did well, others lost everything, and a few others got government bailouts.
I am not in any way claiming that the T2 BPOs will all crash any time soon, it's possible for a bubble to be sustained for a long time, but purchasing a T2 BPO under the expectation of continued capital gains is not a zero risk proposition. And purchasing one for the passive income is a very foolish decision indeed; Grendell's bonds pay quite a lot better. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
joyous the
Slippery Penguin
25
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Posted - 2013.12.04 19:26:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
IRL, the same thing happened to residential property in Detroit in 2006. And also in 1998, long before the crash. Some properties got sold by determined or desperate sellers at low prices. Speculators bought them up ASAP, expecting capital gains.
Some of those speculators did well, others lost everything, and a few others got government bailouts.
I am not in any way claiming that the T2 BPOs will all crash any time soon, it's possible for a bubble to be sustained for a long time, but purchasing a T2 BPO under the expectation of continued capital gains is not a zero risk proposition. And purchasing one for the passive income is a very foolish decision indeed; Grendell's bonds pay quite a lot better.
Property values in Detroit has been in decline for far longer than 2006. The auto industry created a large population of middle class. In 1943 the race riot happened, leading to a largely white middle class mass moving out of the city and into the suburbs. This created businesses to pop up in these areas. A mass freeway system was constructed in the mid century to accommodate mass transit from the suburbs into Detroit, so manufacturing jobs would still be viable. The poor population, however, was stuck in the city limits.
In 1967, Detroit saw another riot which destroyed large parts of the city. As the auto industry slowly moved their businesses oversees over a few decades, the growing generations of population in the suburbs started working at all the businesses that have popped up there. Leaving Detroit with buildings and infrastructure large enough to accommodate 1.8 million people at its peak yet only with 750k residents today. Many of whom are poor, which in turn means jobs are scarce.
Because large swathes of the city are abandoned, burnt, or inhabited by poor people(usually a combination) there's little tax revenue as the property values are brought down by these factors. What little tax income there is, is burdened by the large amount of pensions to be paid out to those working during the days when the city had a large population. Which leaves little to be spent on social services and infrastructure, such as police and working traffic lights. Lack of police and a desperately poor population has led to rampant crime. Coupled with corrupt and inept politicians(our previous major was sentenced to 28 years in jail for corruption 2 months ago), and you have why the property values in Detroit is trash. Speculators speculating on something they do not understand deserve what they get. Detroit will bounce back when the pensioners die, and considering they're old enough to get the pensions that isn't far off.
I wont comment on your mention of Australia's rental market though, I don't live there.
But I don't really see how the housing market in Detroit plays into t2 bpos though. Of course there's risk, there's risk in everything, why go outside when you could be hit by lightning? Every t2 bpo has appreciated in value. The rich are getting richer, and the poor are getting richer. This isn't rl, everyone grows in wealth in EVE. The ease in which t2 bpos make isk is attractive, the appreciation of value is attractive. And they're getting rarer.
You mention Grendell. An upstanding member of the community, and deserving so. Attractive rates, and a good value for your isk. Plus it's safe, because he's a trusted member of the community. Why's he trusted though? Because he hasn't stolen everyone's isk yet? What if Grendell walks outside and gets hit by lightning? You say a t2 bpo for income, which is an item in your possession, is foolish. I'd argue that trusting someone else with your isk is the foolish measure. |
Grandma Squirel
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Posted - 2013.12.05 05:25:00 -
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joyous the wrote:Rainbow Dash wrote:
Sure, for items like AT ships and such a bubble burst is inevitable
I remember being laughed at for trying to sell my guardian vexor for 20b.
AT ships get destroyed both in transport, and in combat. T2 BPOs only get destroyed in transport. Its also easier for AT ship owners to, at considerable risk, flaunt their wealth by going out and killing things. Finally, when fielding 3x AT ships might make the difference in winning another 50x AT ships, your going to be willing to pay a great deal of isk for them. All together, it means I wouldn't count on an AT ship price collapse. |
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Rainbow Dash
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.12.05 20:39:00 -
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Grandma Squirel wrote:joyous the wrote:Rainbow Dash wrote:
Sure, for items like AT ships and such a bubble burst is inevitable
I remember being laughed at for trying to sell my guardian vexor for 20b. AT ships get destroyed both in transport, and in combat. T2 BPOs only get destroyed in transport. Its also easier for AT ship owners to, at considerable risk, flaunt their wealth by going out and killing things. Finally, when fielding 3x AT ships might make the difference in winning another 50x AT ships, your going to be willing to pay a great deal of isk for them. All together, it means I wouldn't count on an AT ship price collapse.
Unless they decide to re-issue them someday, because CCP is, well, CCP. Also, as more cool AT ships come out, the earlier ones, which for the most part are garbage (looking at you mimir/freki) will probably fall in price, because why have a useless paperweight when you could have a theoretically useful paperweight. |
Slave A00073078
Northern Raven Reconnaissance Syndicate
5
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Posted - 2013.12.08 15:29:00 -
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Rainbow Dash wrote:Grandma Squirel wrote:joyous the wrote:Rainbow Dash wrote:
Sure, for items like AT ships and such a bubble burst is inevitable
I remember being laughed at for trying to sell my guardian vexor for 20b. AT ships get destroyed both in transport, and in combat. T2 BPOs only get destroyed in transport. Its also easier for AT ship owners to, at considerable risk, flaunt their wealth by going out and killing things. Finally, when fielding 3x AT ships might make the difference in winning another 50x AT ships, your going to be willing to pay a great deal of isk for them. All together, it means I wouldn't count on an AT ship price collapse. Unless they decide to re-issue them someday, because CCP is, well, CCP. Also, as more cool AT ships come out, the earlier ones, which for the most part are garbage (looking at you mimir/freki) will probably fall in price, because why have a useless paperweight when you could have a theoretically useful paperweight.
AT ships would be plenty useful. But the people who win them typically don't engage in the small gang warfare where they would shine. Also I don't know of anybody who would use the damn things in normal combat.
**** if I had one I'd ride it into to battle till 50 bil blew up and left my pod in it's place.
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Huttan Funaila
Terminal Radioactivity Spaceship Samurai
231
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Posted - 2013.12.08 17:12:00 -
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Slave A00073078 wrote: AT ships would be plenty useful. But the people who win them typically don't engage in the small gang warfare where they would shine. Also I don't know of anybody who would use the damn things in normal combat.
**** if I had one I'd ride it into to battle till 50 bil blew up and left my pod in it's place.
Some of them do get used in PvP. http://themittani.com/news/first-chremoas-destroyed-prize-ship-down https://zkillboard.com/ship/33397/
http://themittani.com/news/first-moracha-destroyed https://zkillboard.com/ship/33395/ |
Slave A00073078
Northern Raven Reconnaissance Syndicate
5
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Posted - 2013.12.08 18:17:00 -
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Would've expected more out of it then being killed by a Dramiel I guess. Also would've figure autos with barrage on the moracha, but hey, what do I know.
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joyous the
Slippery Penguin
26
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Posted - 2013.12.08 21:04:00 -
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Rainbow Dash wrote:Grandma Squirel wrote:joyous the wrote:Rainbow Dash wrote:
Sure, for items like AT ships and such a bubble burst is inevitable
I remember being laughed at for trying to sell my guardian vexor for 20b. AT ships get destroyed both in transport, and in combat. T2 BPOs only get destroyed in transport. Its also easier for AT ship owners to, at considerable risk, flaunt their wealth by going out and killing things. Finally, when fielding 3x AT ships might make the difference in winning another 50x AT ships, your going to be willing to pay a great deal of isk for them. All together, it means I wouldn't count on an AT ship price collapse. Unless they decide to re-issue them someday, because CCP is, well, CCP. Also, as more cool AT ships come out, the earlier ones, which for the most part are garbage (looking at you mimir/freki) will probably fall in price, because why have a useless paperweight when you could have a theoretically useful paperweight.
Because why have one, when you can have two, or all? That's why they're called collectors items.
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Samroski
Games Inc. The Night Crew Alliance
407
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Posted - 2013.12.09 12:19:00 -
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Rainbow Dash wrote: Unless they decide to re-issue them someday, because CCP is, well, CCP. Also, as more cool AT ships come out, the earlier ones, which for the most part are garbage (looking at you mimir/freki) will probably fall in price, because why have a useless paperweight when you could have a theoretically useful paperweight.
T2 BPOs will never be re-issued, despite CCP being what they are. At the same time they are extremely unlikely to be nerfed.
One of the great things about Eve is that a new player can compete in most things with older players reasonably well. Except where it comes to buying T2 BPOs!
For this reason alone, I'm against T2 BPOs, though I love them as well for some strange reason.
Any colour you like. |
Zoe Zen
Wormhole Nexus Union
0
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Posted - 2013.12.10 00:48:00 -
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Hey have vaguely read through all the comments, but one thing that struck me is are you guys calculating this with only one character working the BPO? I have 5 characters that could run inventions in my pos very efficiently. So lets say i get a BPO of Neutron Blaster Cannon II or whatever they are called which would with max ME/PE levels and 0 copy cost generate an estimate of 500k/hour in profit per slot. If I then have the isk and run it 24/7 with 50 slots it means that I would make the BPO cost back within 30 days. Am I missing something or?
500,000x50 = 25 000 000 / hr 25 000 000 x 24 = 600 000 000/day 600 000 000x30 = 18 000 000 000/month
Expenses would be the cost of the POS and thats it, meaning a 350ish mill a month.
I haven't looked this through much but this is just what popped in my head while reading the comments. |
Aliventi
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
595
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Posted - 2013.12.10 01:32:00 -
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Zoe Zen wrote:Hey have vaguely read through all the comments, but one thing that struck me is are you guys calculating this with only one character working the BPO? I have 5 characters that could run inventions in my pos very efficiently. So lets say i get a BPO of Neutron Blaster Cannon II or whatever they are called which would with max ME/PE levels and 0 copy cost generate an estimate of 500k/hour in profit per slot. If I then have the isk and run it 24/7 with 50 slots it means that I would make the BPO cost back within 30 days. Am I missing something or?
500,000x50 = 25 000 000 / hr 25 000 000 x 24 = 600 000 000/day 600 000 000x30 = 18 000 000 000/month
Expenses would be the cost of the POS and thats it, meaning a 350ish mill a month.
I haven't looked this through much but this is just what popped in my head while reading the comments. Copying the BPO is less efficient than producing from the BPO. In other words, it takes longer to make a run of copy than it does to simply produce from the BPO itself. "tbh most people don't care about removing local from highsec. They want it gone from nullsec. I want to be able to solo roam hunt without everyone knowing I am there without them actually seeing me jump through the gate. Effortless intel is bad." ~Me |
Zoe Zen
Wormhole Nexus Union
0
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Posted - 2013.12.10 03:20:00 -
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aight, still seems to be profitable, I can get 50 copies with 300 runs each within 14 days? those 300 runs will last me 4 weeks+ to manufacture = I can keep a steady chain of production while at the same time have 49 slots open for the research of other bpo's. This is of course all theoretical as I would not want to manufacture 300x50 guns every month as I would flood the market and never sell them off.
I am not saying anyone is wrong or right, just trying to find new possibilities to make space money! |
Rainbow Dash
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
55
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Posted - 2013.12.11 02:52:00 -
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Zoe Zen wrote:aight, still seems to be profitable, I can get 50 copies with 300 runs each within 14 days? those 300 runs will last me 4 weeks+ to manufacture = I can keep a steady chain of production while at the same time have 49 slots open for the research of other bpo's. This is of course all theoretical as I would not want to manufacture 300x50 guns every month as I would flood the market and never sell them off.
I am not saying anyone is wrong or right, just trying to find new possibilities to make space money!
Well, you can only make one 100-run BPC off that BPO every 24 days. Not sure where you got your numbers. |
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