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Capt Under
Starlight Holdings Starlight Inception.
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Posted - 2013.12.02 19:29:00 -
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Use Titans to terraform and colonize planets in Worm hole space/new star clusters or something similar to the movie Titan A.E. Need one titan for each new planet. Once deployed the titan become space junk and can never be used again. Go watch the movie Titan A.E. for some inspiration what the new Titan role could be like: Titan A.E. Trailer
This new colonized planet then give you enough PI materials from which you can build alliance and/or faction owned mobile refinery, factory, cloning and warp gate structures around the planet. The mobile warp gate can only connect to other WH systems within that star cluster (not new eden). These "new" alliance/faction owned structures cost the same as an outpost but can be destroyed..
To conquer one of these colonized planets you need to use dust514 mercs and then another titan to claim it. Rince and repeat. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd CAStabouts
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:00:00 -
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So tell me: how do you propose to get a titan into a wormhole? |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:12:00 -
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Stealth "let me bring supers into WHs" thread. |
HiddenPorpoise
BG-1 The Craniac
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:48:00 -
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Look at the fiction to see what happens when a titan points at a planet. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:10:00 -
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Because they are named exactly the same, a ship designed specifically to vaporize fleets/small-moon-sized ships with anti-matter shells/plasma beams/fusion warheads can also perform the delicate tasks of landing on a gravitationally suitable planet (where a ship of such size and mass would literally collapse under it's own weight), filter/provide a planet's atmosphere (which realistically takes years, even centuries to complete), and can instantly genetically engineer entire species of fauna and animals.
*steps on OP's dreams*
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:54:00 -
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I'd be ok with a modified big industrial being used for this, though there would have to be some in game benefit to terraforming planets, like improvements in PI etc. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Mascha Tzash
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.02 22:12:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:So tell me: how do you propose to get a titan into a wormhole?
Wormhole laceration? |
shredder5
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Posted - 2013.12.02 22:20:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:I'd be ok with a modified big industrial being used for this, though there would have to be some in game benefit to terraforming planets, like improvements in PI etc.
That's a dumb idea and you should feel bad O-ne B-ig A-ss M-istake A-merica |
Capt Under
Starlight Holdings Starlight Inception.
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Posted - 2013.12.02 23:25:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:So tell me: how do you propose to get a titan into a wormhole? The same way thousands of ships came from Earth to New Eden through a "stable" wormhole (EVE).
With thousands of Titans ingame CCP will be desperate to find a new role for them. With CCPs new vision for space colonization it seems like a win-win deal for CCP to use Titans for terraforming planets without having to make a new ship for it.
If not Titan, what ship do you propose to be used for terraforming planets that fit into CCP vision for space colonization?
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Eli Green
The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2013.12.02 23:37:00 -
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Capt Under wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:So tell me: how do you propose to get a titan into a wormhole? The same way thousands of ships came from Earth to New Eden through a " stable" wormhole (EVE).With thousands of Titans ingame CCP will be desperate to find a new role for them. With CCPs new vision for space colonization it seems like a win-win deal for CCP to use Titans for terraforming planets without having to make a new ship for it. If not Titan, what ship do you propose to be used for terraforming planets that fit into CCP vision for space colonization?
If you are using lore as your ground, I hope you realize they didn't bring any titans through the EVE gate in the first place. also no, titans have no purpose existing within w-space. They wouldn't even be able to bridge.
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd CAStabouts
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Posted - 2013.12.02 23:45:00 -
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Capt Under wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:So tell me: how do you propose to get a titan into a wormhole? The same way thousands of ships came from Earth to New Eden through a " stable" wormhole (EVE).With thousands of Titans ingame CCP will be desperate to find a new role for them. With CCPs new vision for space colonization it seems like a win-win deal for CCP to use Titans for terraforming planets without having to make a new ship for it. If not Titan, what ship do you propose to be used for terraforming planets that fit into CCP vision for space colonization?
Why do I need to propose a ship - or anything at all - to use for terraforming? Has CCP said something about there being terraforming? Space colonization doesn't need to involve planets.
So I don't propose anything for terraforming, nor do I propose terraforming in the first place. |
Capt Under
Starlight Holdings Starlight Inception.
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Posted - 2013.12.02 23:52:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:I'd be ok with a modified big industrial being used for this, though there would have to be some in game benefit to terraforming planets, like improvements in PI etc. I agree but the primary benefit will be to alliance owned WH space and giving alliances 100% control over all the infrastructure in WH space. Once the infrastructure (all mobile structures to begin with) are in place alliances can make hundres of billions from renting out space. In CCPs vision for new space colonization they also mention the possibility to build new factions. Imagine giving FW players the ability to create new highsec and lowsec within WH space.
There are plenty of possibilities to use Titans to claim space instead of stupid POS warfare. Use your imagination. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
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Posted - 2013.12.03 00:03:00 -
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Eli Green wrote:Capt Under wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:probablyme: how do you propose to get a titan into a wormhole? The same way thousands of ships came from Earth to New Eden through a " stable" wormhole (EVE).With thousands of Titans ingame CCP will be desperate to find a new role for them. With CCPs new vision for space colonization it seems like a win-win deal for CCP to use Titans for terraforming planets without having to make a new ship for it. If not Titan, what ship do you propose to be used for terraforming planets that fit into CCP vision for space colonization? If you are using lore as your ground, I hope you realize they didn't bring any titans through the EVE gate in the first place. also no, titans have no purpose existing within w-space. They wouldn't even be able to bridge.
The ships that came through the eve gate were huge though, probably on the same scale as titans, so size wasn't an issue. Indeed the eve gate may have collapsed due to the systained effects of such large masses going through it I surmise, although the lore doesn't explicitly say so. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Capt Under
Starlight Holdings Starlight Inception.
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Posted - 2013.12.03 00:04:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Capt Under wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:So tell me: how do you propose to get a titan into a wormhole? The same way thousands of ships came from Earth to New Eden through a " stable" wormhole (EVE).With thousands of Titans ingame CCP will be desperate to find a new role for them. With CCPs new vision for space colonization it seems like a win-win deal for CCP to use Titans for terraforming planets without having to make a new ship for it. If not Titan, what ship do you propose to be used for terraforming planets that fit into CCP vision for space colonization? Why do I need to propose a ship - or anything at all - to use for terraforming? Has CCP said something about there being terraforming? Space colonization doesn't need to involve planets. With Dust514 you can be 100% certain CCP will try to incorporate planets into a new vision for space colonization. It's not a question of if but how will they do it. All mobile structures also need PI materials and that should give you a clue. So yes there will most likely be terraforming which fit into the sandbox game, giving players more control over their environment.
So I ask again, what do you propose for terraforming planets or you have no imagination? |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd CAStabouts
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Posted - 2013.12.03 00:39:00 -
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I still don't propose anything for terraforming planets. There are more temperate planets for DUST to use than anyone knows what to do with. Also, I cannot be "100% sure" that CCP will do anything until they say they're going to do it - and even then, not until they actually do it.
It's not a lack of imagination. It's that I don't see a need or useful reason. |
Vizvig
Savage Blizzard Bright Side of Death
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Posted - 2013.12.03 01:04:00 -
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.03 01:38:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:So tell me: how do you propose to get a titan into a wormhole?
why Lube! of course ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative
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Posted - 2013.12.03 05:03:00 -
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Capt Under wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:I'd be ok with a modified big industrial being used for this, though there would have to be some in game benefit to terraforming planets, like improvements in PI etc. I agree but the primary benefit will be to alliance owned WH space and giving alliances 100% control over all the infrastructure in WH space. Once the infrastructure (all mobile structures to begin with) are in place alliances can make hundres of billions from renting out space. In CCPs vision for new space colonization they also mention the possibility to build new factions. Imagine giving FW players the ability to create new highsec and lowsec within WH space. There are plenty of possibilities to use Titans to claim space instead of stupid POS warfare. Use your imagination. you DO realize that no self-respecting member of WH space (outside some C1 or 2 daytrippers) has or would EVER want this.
In fact, i remember when i was in SYJ and we'd evict people for that line of thinking.
wormholes are designed adn SUPPOED to be "hard to survive in", what your proposing is "lets let goons have SOV in WH space".
If CCP wants to make colonizable sapce, they can damn well do it in a new region, no one in WH space wants that. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd CAStabouts
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Posted - 2013.12.03 05:07:00 -
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Wait. What. This guy wants to give control of Anoikis to the nullsec coalitions?
This game is already Nullsec Coalitions Online without them having control of wormholes too.
What kind of drugs are people on lately? It's one terribad shiptoasted idea after another around here the last couple of weeks. |
Zvaarian the Red
Evil Leprechaun Brigade
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Posted - 2013.12.03 05:13:00 -
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Capt Under wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:I'd be ok with a modified big industrial being used for this, though there would have to be some in game benefit to terraforming planets, like improvements in PI etc. I agree but the primary benefit will be to alliance owned WH space and giving alliances 100% control over all the infrastructure in WH space. Once the infrastructure (all mobile structures to begin with) are in place alliances can make hundres of billions from renting out space. In CCPs vision for new space colonization they also mention the possibility to build new factions. Imagine giving FW players the ability to create new highsec and lowsec within WH space. There are plenty of possibilities to use Titans to claim space instead of stupid POS warfare. Use your imagination.
Oh hell no... |
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Astroniomix
Cryptic Meta-4
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Posted - 2013.12.03 05:17:00 -
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Explain to me why we need more space for alliances to make "hundreds of billions of isk". |
Owen Levanth
Federated Deep Space Explorations
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Posted - 2013.12.03 07:12:00 -
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To be honest, Titans should have as much to do with colonization as any other dedicated warship: Absolutely nothing. If I play along with your mad idea, maybe CCP could make a new dedicated ship, maybe even as large as a capital, to do this ****.
Caldari-Command: "Captain, you have orders to colonize J34232 III!"
Ten minutes later...
Caldarian Captain: "Sir, did you order me to colonize or to vaporize?"
Caldari-Command: "To colonize of course!"
Caldarian Captain: "Oops!" |
Sh0plifter
Underworld Initiative
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Posted - 2013.12.03 07:46:00 -
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For a titan to be useful in wormhole space in any setup. You would have to bring back blap/track titans. You would have to completely change the role of the titan. Because outside of DDing your enemies capitals. It will be utterly useless.
Though, it would be entertaining seeing people try to use glass cannon titans for sites in wormholes. Go in ,bubble, cloak. Wait 30 seconds, bubble, cloak. Wait 30 seconds bubble cloak. And just repeat til the sleepers kill it or a backup fleet comes to save the titan from your loan dictor. |
Kane Fenris
NWP
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Posted - 2013.12.03 11:47:00 -
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why all that idea bashing?
with all that CCP space elevator and planet stuff supposed to coming up terraforming in general (or in wh's specifical) sounds like a idea with potential to be fun.
why would you build stargates if you havn't even colonized all suitable planets in your reach? i think ccp should incorperate terraforing in their long time space colonization theme. |
Radhe Amatin
Shadow State Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.12.03 12:08:00 -
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Correct me if i`m wrong but from eve lore aren't titans to dangerous to be around planets cause i remember reading somewhere when they jumped the titan in to orbit catastrophic evens started to happen on the planet below? |
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