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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
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Posted - 2013.12.03 00:20:00 -
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Twitch TV integration testing.
Anyone tried it out.
Feedback? |
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CCP RubberBAND
CCP Engineering Corp CCP Engineering Alliance
258
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Posted - 2013.12.03 09:43:00 -
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Should be working, appears we have a defect.
For some reason it's failing to get the authentication token. Investigating now. Feel free to poke me on: Twitter |
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Darkblad
Hilfe is like Free Entertainment
57
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Posted - 2013.12.03 10:17:00 -
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next to the login issue, there's something else:
When I drag the Twitch button from the Social folder right to the Neocom, it gets removed from there once I close the twitch login window. EvE Infolinks-áGÇô Umfangreiche Sammlung von Links mit informationen ++ber EvE, inklusive Guides und Infos von mir selbst |
JetCord
People of Random Nature
28
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Posted - 2013.12.03 10:43:00 -
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was gonna test the stream on twitch by using obs and xsplit but TQ was down
do we need the stream key to be associated with our eve account? |
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CCP RubberBAND
CCP Engineering Corp CCP Engineering Alliance
258
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Posted - 2013.12.04 17:11:00 -
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Okay Twitch is on the test servers guys and appears to work. Have at it and give us your feedback.
Please note that this is a fairly basic implementation, we want to see how useful this is to you all and if this is something you want us to pursue. Feel free to poke me on: Twitter |
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DeeJ1
BetaMax Beta
3
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Posted - 2013.12.04 17:58:00 -
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CCP RubberBAND wrote:Okay Twitch is on the test servers guys and appears to work. Have at it and give us your feedback.
Please note that this is a fairly basic implementation, we want to see how useful this is to you all and if this is something you want us to pursue. Stream stops after a few seconds with: Twitch: error submitting frame data: TTV_EC_FRAME_QUEUE_TOO_LONG. Streaming stopped.
Resolution 1920x1200
Also switching back and forth between two the same resolutions doesn't result in a countdown dialog on subsequent switches - only the first switch has a dialog. |
Josh Koendrik
Hejaz Industries Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2013.12.04 18:53:00 -
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I tested it and it worked as advertised, however, in order to stream the window is resized to a resolution. and I can't use the resolution I'm using normally. This affects my gameplay to much. pls add more resolution options before implementing it on tranq :D
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Marcio Miranda
Exploradores do Novo Eden
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Posted - 2013.12.05 01:02:00 -
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Josh Koendrik wrote:I tested it and it worked as advertised, however, in order to stream the window is resized to a resolution. and I can't use the resolution I'm using normally. This affects my gameplay to much. pls add more resolution options before implementing it on tranq :D
Same here. I do run EVE in fixed window mode at 1920x1080, but that resolution is not available on TwitchTV settings.
Anyway, unless a lot of features are planned for it it will be very hard to use it instead of a full featured - highly configurable third party software like Open Broadcaster and many others. |
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CCP Optimal
C C P C C P Alliance
261
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Posted - 2013.12.05 10:37:00 -
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The resolution constraints come from twitch.tv, so sadly there isn't much we can do about that. |
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Josh Koendrik
Hejaz Industries Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2013.12.05 11:46:00 -
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hmm then I honestly think it will only be used for scouting purposes, and not many people will use it to show off their OP skills. |
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CCP RubberBAND
CCP Engineering Corp CCP Engineering Alliance
258
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Posted - 2013.12.05 11:54:00 -
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Marcio Miranda wrote:
Same here. I do run EVE in fixed window mode at 1920x1080, but that resolution is not available on TwitchTV settings.
Anyway, unless a lot of features are planned for it it will be very hard to use it instead of a full featured - highly configurable third party software like Open Broadcaster and many others.
We are not looking to compete with out of client broadcasting tools, but rather give people a taste. We want to see what kind of interest there is in the feature and then build on that.
We would like to allow players to stream a resolution independently of their clients resolution, but as a first implementation this was scoped out.
You can expect more details in a Dev Blog which should be out soon. Feel free to poke me on: Twitter |
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Phoenix Jones
The Scope Gallente Federation
300
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Posted - 2013.12.05 12:04:00 -
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... Except that much of the player base uses 1920x1080 (that's basic high definition resolution).
First tried shadow play (nvidia), required full screen to be set (I use fixed window :-/)
Now eves interation can't support hd (not being negative as have yet to try it). I'd be disappointed if it doesn't support some basic resolutions. Stabbers are totally broken
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15116553
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GeeShizzle MacCloud
411
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Posted - 2013.12.05 13:47:00 -
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Heyy trialed my streaming from the client today and looks alright so far... didnt seem to affect my loading and game performance much at all which was a surprise.
The issue i have is that my stream only stays up for 7 seconds then cuts out. regardless of resolution etc...
Also i know its initial implementation and due to that its all about getting it functional and stable first, but when u get round to it, some resolution downscaling between eve and the pipe to twitch tv would be cool so we can keep our own preferred resolution and downscale it to keep twitch tv happy
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2013.12.05 14:02:00 -
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I tried it and it failed totally. After entering in a name and password and pressing Start stream, the window shrank to a a smaller size and was filled with multicolored tiled mish mash. The client froze for about a minute then displayed
"Unhandeled page fault on read access to 0x0000140c at address 0x741c0b2b5"
I also tried telling it to use the same resolution as my screen. The window stayed the same size, but it still went weird, froze and had the exception. Even entering in a incorrect name and password cases the failure.
Macbook Pro 17-inch, Mid 2010 Processor 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7 Memory 8 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M 512 MB OSX 10.7.5 http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
JetCord
People of Random Nature
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Posted - 2013.12.05 14:14:00 -
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CCP RubberBAND wrote:Marcio Miranda wrote:
Same here. I do run EVE in fixed window mode at 1920x1080, but that resolution is not available on TwitchTV settings.
Anyway, unless a lot of features are planned for it it will be very hard to use it instead of a full featured - highly configurable third party software like Open Broadcaster and many others.
We are not looking to compete with out of client broadcasting tools, but rather give people a taste. We want to see what kind of interest there is in the feature and then build on that. We would like to allow players to stream a resolution independently of their clients resolution, but as a first implementation this was scoped out. You can expect more details in a Dev Blog which should be out soon.
the thing is most of us broadcast in those resolution with out compromising our game play resolution. So if by streaming using the integrated feature affect our screen res and our gameplay none of us will be using it to stream and i dont think that would be good to build interest .
i think you have a catch 22 problem here |
Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2013.12.05 18:11:00 -
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Tried this out last night, everything worked fine from a technical standpoint, but the frame rate/stream quality was a bit of a disappointment from what I hoped for. Frame rate dropped significantly every time I rotated the camera. I haven't played with the third party streaming tools so I dont really have any means of comparison though. I'll post system specs but I dont really think that was an issue.
i7 920 @ 4.0GHz 2x GTX 460 in SLI 12GB 1600MHz memory Windows 8.1 Pro x64 1 client at 1920x1200 in fixed window mode, second screen showing desktop Internet is 100Mb/100Mb so I can't imagine that's a bottleneck on my end |
Legion40k
Boris Johnson's Love Children
55
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Posted - 2013.12.08 15:44:00 -
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tried testing this thing out multiple times - it can only steam for a couple of seconds before failing.
I'm trying different resolutions (all weird, cant do 1920x1080) but it just seems to log me out. I've tried making a new user account that correlates to the character being used but the username is already taken so no joy there
I was looking forward to this, even if its just for a giggle |
Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.12.09 03:35:00 -
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about the resolutions: this is a good opportunity to build some forward-capability into this thing. leaving maximum resolution open-ended would be great, rather than setting 1080p as a goal--I'm currently using 2048x1536 per client, and what could be called 'mainstream' in terms of monitor resolution is beginning to move forward in a big way. this twitch integration could be dead out-of-the-box if you allow it to be limited at 1080p. Rainfleet on Twitch |
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CCP Maverick
C C P C C P Alliance
6
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:30:00 -
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The Dev Blog is out! CCP Maverick | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Game of Drones |
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CCP Maverick
C C P C C P Alliance
6
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:32:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I tried it and it failed totally. After entering in a name and password and pressing Start stream, the window shrank to a a smaller size and was filled with multicolored tiled mish mash. The client froze for about a minute then displayed
"Unhandeled page fault on read access to 0x0000140c at address 0x741c0b2b5"
I also tried telling it to use the same resolution as my screen. The window stayed the same size, but it still went weird, froze and had the exception. Even entering in a incorrect name and password cases the failure.
Macbook Pro 17-inch, Mid 2010 Processor 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7 Memory 8 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M 512 MB OSX 10.7.5
Thanks for your detailed information. Unfortunately we have had to disable twitch.tv streaming on the Mac due a technical blocker relating to how we emulate EVE on Macs. But we're looking into it. CCP Maverick | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Game of Drones |
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CCP Maverick
C C P C C P Alliance
6
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:36:00 -
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Destoya wrote:Tried this out last night, everything worked fine from a technical standpoint, but the frame rate/stream quality was a bit of a disappointment from what I hoped for. Frame rate dropped significantly every time I rotated the camera. I haven't played with the third party streaming tools so I dont really have any means of comparison though. I'll post system specs but I dont really think that was an issue.
i7 920 @ 4.0GHz 2x GTX 460 in SLI 12GB 1600MHz memory Windows 8.1 Pro x64 1 client at 1920x1200 in fixed window mode, second screen showing desktop Internet is 100Mb/100Mb so I can't imagine that's a bottleneck on my end
We've added a framerate selection box so you can now tailor your stream even more. CCP Maverick | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Game of Drones |
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CCP Maverick
C C P C C P Alliance
6
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:39:00 -
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Legion40k wrote:tried testing this thing out multiple times - it can only stream for a couple of seconds before failing.
I'm trying different resolutions (all weird, cant do 1920x1080) but it just seems to log me out. I've tried making a new user account that correlates to the character being used but the username is already taken so no joy there
I was looking forward to this, even if its just for a giggle
System Specs 8GB DDR3 2100Mhz i5 3570 nvidia GTX 560Ti Windows 7 64
Screens 2x 23.5" Viewsonic 2365-LED 1920x1080
I hope this is fixable anyways, I know twitch can be a bit unstable in some parts of the UK though
If you were changing resolution as you were stream you would have been logged out automatically. And I can feel your pain at having your twitch.tv user name taken - Maverick is quite popular it would seem! CCP Maverick | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Game of Drones |
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Marcio Miranda
Exploradores do Novo Eden
3
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Posted - 2013.12.09 18:04:00 -
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CCP Optimal wrote:The resolution constraints come from twitch.tv, so sadly there isn't much we can do about that.
So you're saying that TwitchTV constraints the resolution for CCP/EVE but not third party softwares? That's weird.
CCP RubberBAND wrote: We are not looking to compete with out of client broadcasting tools, but rather give people a taste. We want to see what kind of interest there is in the feature and then build on that.
We would like to allow players to stream a resolution independently of their clients resolution, but as a first implementation this was scoped out.
You can expect more details in a Dev Blog which should be out soon.
On a second thought it could be a really useful tool when you need some fast broadcasting for your corp and/or gang, specialy when you want to teach something hard to understand without visuals.
But the resolution thing should really be sorted out. The problem is... our UI settings rely on our resolution. When the resolution changes our windows positions/organization goes down the toilet. Reorganizing everything for broadcast, then reverting it back afterwards isn't something people will want to do. And today most gamers are using 1080p, but of course that shouldn't be the only res taken care of.
And again... weird TwitchTV restricting 1080p resolution setting for CCP/EVE when we can set out a third party one (including freeware) the said resolution with no problem. |
Phoenix Jones
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
308
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Posted - 2013.12.09 19:22:00 -
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Marcio Miranda wrote:CCP Optimal wrote:The resolution constraints come from twitch.tv, so sadly there isn't much we can do about that. So you're saying that TwitchTV constraints the resolution for CCP/EVE but not third party softwares? That's weird. CCP RubberBAND wrote: We are not looking to compete with out of client broadcasting tools, but rather give people a taste. We want to see what kind of interest there is in the feature and then build on that.
We would like to allow players to stream a resolution independently of their clients resolution, but as a first implementation this was scoped out.
You can expect more details in a Dev Blog which should be out soon.
On a second thought it could be a really useful tool when you need some fast broadcasting for your corp and/or gang, specialy when you want to teach something hard to understand without visuals. But the resolution thing should really be sorted out. The problem is... our UI settings rely on our resolution. When the resolution changes our windows positions/organization goes down the toilet. Reorganizing everything for broadcast, then reverting it back afterwards isn't something people will want to do. And today most gamers are using 1080p, but of course that shouldn't be the only res taken care of. And again... weird TwitchTV restricting 1080p resolution setting for CCP/EVE when we can set out a third party one (including freeware) the said resolution with no problem.
My only guess is that Eve's intergrated Twitch is a direct feed, no processing/storage/cache in the local client as that would change the possible spec requirements of eve (Its a direct pipeline feed from your PC to Twitch, avoiding Eve's servers entirely.
The 3rd party programs do a good deal of initial processing on your pc before sending it over to twitch (such as recompression, changing audio codec's, etc).
That is just a guess though. The lack of high definition support is an oddity, but one I believe could be relatively easily rectified on Twitch's side, though I suspect the pipeline streaming requirement would go up (more upload bandwidth needed by the person). Stabbers are totally broken
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15116553
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Phoenix Jones
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
308
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Posted - 2013.12.10 00:57:00 -
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Ok a few notes regarding this (was goofing around with it for a few minutes). Copied from the dev blog post.
1) the 1920 by 1080 is an issue. I maxed it out at 1600, it window mode the game (did not mess with the PC resolution, which is good).
2) it does not stream whats in the background of your stream (it windowed the view, but I had a 2nd instance of eve running in the background, it did not bleed through.
3) The quality is a little unexpected, but its probably just my pipe, as I don't have a 100 upload (I believe this connection is only a 5 up), oddly enough it works ok.
4) The lag time from ingame doing, to what is shown, is roughly 5 to 7 seconds. There is no noticeable ingame lag.
For showing your friends, or just doing some quick stream for the heck of it (ingame blob fight and you decided to just fly in and blow people up is good).
Text is legible. Quality is ok. There was no noticeable ingame lag. Resolution can be an issue (my only real gripe).
Unless you want people reading your messages ingame, you'll have to minimize the menu. Then again if you are about to do a intel sensitive operation, why the hell are you live streaming instead of recording?
Please change the following.
1) When you login to twitch from the ingame option, please instantly minimize the twitch login screen, as it shows your twitch username (realistically not an issue, but it also shows the length of your password).
2) When minimized in the rightside menu, could you permit a rightclick of it, and a small dropdown menu saying "Disconnect?". It would help protect possible attempts of hacking from people's possible password leaks (its Minor, but helpful).
3) Really try to get 1920 by 1080 working in twitch, it is Uncomfortable running the game at a lower resolution on the monitors some of us run.
If you are concerned about a few things (such as where you are/where your going, I would suggest ccp initiate some method of blacking out parts of text from twitch (that would probably take more resources than necessary)). This is meant to be a way to stream cool interesting things, not a method for becoming a professional broadcaster. With that in mind.
1) Minimize the twitch login screen once logged in 2) Rightclick/Disconnect from twitch without bringing up the login menu 3) Attempt to get 1920 by 1080 working.
Other than that, it works (least for me).
In addition, why does twitch.tv switch over to Justin.tv whenever I try to stream (I put in the username, and it swaps over to justin.tv) and streams there. Stabbers are totally broken
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15116553
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CCP Maverick
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 11:02:00 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:
1) Minimize the twitch login screen once logged in 2) Rightclick/Disconnect from twitch without bringing up the login menu 3) Attempt to get 1920 by 1080 working.
Other than that, it works (least for me).
Thanks for the detailed feedback! We shall take it all on board. CCP Maverick | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Game of Drones |
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Circumstantial Evidence
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Posted - 2013.12.10 11:11:00 -
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I fail to log in and start streaming - when my password has "%" in it. Just tried on test server. I don't have a problem logging in / streaming when password does not contain "%". Other non-alphanumeric characters may be affected. |
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CCP Maverick
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 11:30:00 -
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Circumstantial Evidence wrote:I fail to log in and start streaming - when my password has "%" in it. Just tried on test server. I don't have a problem logging in / streaming when password does not contain "%". Other non-alphanumeric characters may be affected.
I will have a look into this thanks. CCP Maverick | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Game of Drones |
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Rio Bravo
Gold State Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:11:00 -
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I need help! What would I use streaming for? Convince me to become a user! D: GÇ£You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig.-áI dig.GÇ¥ -á- Clint Eastwood, misquote. |
Phoenix Jones
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
309
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:17:00 -
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If you did not before, you won't now. Its a easy fun program to use, with 0 requirements.
Enjoy it its not mandatory. Stabbers are totally broken
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15116553
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