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Fooma
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Posted - 2006.03.03 09:40:00 -
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ok so lets say corp Barbi is a mining/production corp. Most are newbs, they dont pvp at all, and they dont even mine 0.0. About 20 members, 15 active, very quiet.. a very new corp.
Corp Cellphone declares war without giving a reason, and even before the war starts jumps a mining barge and a hauler at a gate, killing and PODkilling the pilots. They say its just Merc practice between friends.. and then say its a contract, blahblahblah. So they gate camp the Barbie corp(most pilots in Barbie can only fly frigates). And say they are getting ISK to do this, that they regret it, blahblah, yet they keep camping and pod killing. When Barbie DOES fight back the Cellphone members run and hide inside stations and dont come out.
Is this typical EVE quality, or is Cellphone corp just REALLY freaking retarded?
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Drunken Claptrap
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Posted - 2006.03.03 09:42:00 -
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Fit Warp Stabs and Jammers and you'll escape. Move regions for a while so they get bored. Fly in Frig gangs. They'll soon get bored.
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Fooma
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Posted - 2006.03.03 09:45:00 -
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Edited by: Fooma on 03/03/2006 09:45:21 Edited by: Fooma on 03/03/2006 09:44:56 Barbie has moved up to 2 regions away.. 20 jumps sometimes. Cellphone went as far as 11 jumps just to kill and podkill a level 1 mining barge.
and the question was is this griefing, or typical EVE quality players?
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Professor McFly
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Posted - 2006.03.03 09:47:00 -
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It's not griefing. __________________ Retard's handbook |
Stratosfear
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Posted - 2006.03.03 09:47:00 -
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Par for the course, it's been like that for ages. Nothing new to see here.
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Adjodlo
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Posted - 2006.03.03 09:52:00 -
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If you cant figure out how to work around this type of thing you shouldn't be playing a pvp game.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.03.03 09:54:00 -
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Corps need to be albe to defend themselfs. War is part of EVE, and no matter how much of a newbie carebear you are, war can and will find you. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
Sherkaner
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Posted - 2006.03.03 10:01:00 -
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Well, it's certainly griefing in the sense that poor Fooma feels griefed right now
But yes, the other players are right, although it's certainly not nice, it's valid gameplay in EVE. There are a few ways to get around such griefing, though. For example, you and your friends could join a large corporation with experienced players, that is willing and able to defend new members from such attacks. Or you could stay in an NPC corporation until you are able to defend yourself.
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Fooma
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Posted - 2006.03.03 10:04:00 -
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I am not in the Barbie corp=] a friend is, I thought it was kinda BS that mercs get their jollies off of killing newbs.
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Nicholai Pestot
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Posted - 2006.03.03 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Fooma Edited by: Fooma on 03/03/2006 09:45:21 Edited by: Fooma on 03/03/2006 09:44:56 Barbie has moved up to 2 regions away.. 20 jumps sometimes. Cellphone went as far as 11 jumps just to kill and podkill a level 1 mining barge.
and the question was is this griefing, or typical EVE quality players?
You should not form a corp unless you have the ability to defend yourself.
The corp that declaired on you has seen a week target and exploited this.
If you do not like this 'survival of the fittest' outlook then you may have to consider the fact that Eve is not for you.
Your options are:- (in order of effectivness)
A: Fold the corp, have everyone leave. Try to, as a group, find a larger,stronger corp that you can integrate into untill you are strong enough to defend yourselves.
B:Find an alliance and try an join them. This group will then have to war dec the entire alliance in order to war dec your corp-Good luck finding a group willing to take you on though
C:Contact the CEO of the corp attacking you and ask for terms of surrender-The answer to this will give you an idea of the cause of the war dec (ie a reasonable request means this is just business. An un-reasonable request means this is just for kicks.No request means one of the newbies in your corp have ****ed someone off enough to warrent a merc attack)
D: Invest in some Merc protection. This is normally out of the price range of a start up corp, but sometimes the people attacking you will have enemies....it bears looking into.
The fact that you were caught even after you relocated means you may have a spy in the corp-look into that too.
Eve does not pander to the weak or stupid. Endevour to be neither. ________________ What you do is you store up the rage, let it fester while you gain strength, then use it to gank those weaker than you... and so the circle of life is complete |
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Guntaro
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Posted - 2006.03.03 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: Fooma Is this typical EVE quality, or is Cellphone corp just REALLY freaking retarded?
No and No.
While not 'typical' it is not uncommon in Eve gameplay, and while I don't think that corp is freaking retarded, they may be slightly retarded.
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Tar om
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Posted - 2006.03.03 10:33:00 -
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This is why politics are important in EVE. If you live on your own and don't have any friends, there's noone to help you when the bad guys kick down your front door. If you have friends, you can beat up the bad guys.
You probably find that the "mercs" are just noobs themselves, maybe no older than your but with different specialisation. An established corp could almost certainly crucify them just for fun. -- We are the Octavian Vanguard www.octavianvanguard.net
"The belief in the possibility of a short decisive war appears to be one of the most ancient and dangerous of human illusions." |
hired goon
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Posted - 2006.03.03 11:00:00 -
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The classic - leave your corp and start a new one. If they figure it out and dec again... rince and repeat! -omg-
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SinBin
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Posted - 2006.03.03 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Fooma I am not in the Barbie corp=] a friend is, I thought it was kinda BS that mercs get their jollies off of killing newbs.
There lame mate not mercs, counter it with another lame move. all drop to newbie corp & carry on working right under there nosses.
Wait 24hours after switching corp tho, leave a alt holding the corp & rejion once there bored/gone.
I cant recall if its allowed but its not provable & everyones happy with the grifer lamos so do what ya must, you all left cos the war & ya noob status & later ya reformed when ya felt stronger. _______________________________________
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Rellik B00n
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Posted - 2006.03.03 11:16:00 -
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call the A-team
the advice about rejoining the n00by corp and leaving an alt in charge sounds like a good plan B
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2006.03.03 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: hired goon The classic - leave your corp and start a new one. If they figure it out and dec again... rince and repeat!
I think that's technically an exploit, or was at least discussed as a potential one.
I would avise Barbie corp to 'sieze the day', buy some combat ships, but some stabs and scramblers, and start mining with an escort. Sure, your profits will decrease, but you will get some valuable combat experience.
Besides, if this so called 'merc' corp I hiding in a station every time you try to engage them, then I suspect their employer would like a word.
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Psyrex
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Posted - 2006.03.03 11:22:00 -
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Edited by: Psyrex on 03/03/2006 11:23:20 another suggestion is to get the barbi corp on the other side of a camped system so that everytime the cellphone corp wants to attack they will have to fight their way through the camped system, thus losing half thier fleet.
It will be hard to move the corp to the other side but if you plan it well, it can be done. Or pay off the corp guarding the system to let barbi through just that once.
make sure that its a bottle-neck system, anotherwords....Cellphone HAVE to go through that system to get to barbi.
Then barbi can work freely on the other side of the system, but pick your system well, the last thing you want is to lose Cellphone and then get a whole new set of people on your tail. --------------------------------------------- The world is a battle field, pass me my gun!
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Taliac
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Posted - 2006.03.03 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nicholai Pestot
The fact that you were caught even after you relocated means you may have a spy in the corp-look into that too.
They could have used an agent to find a corp member.
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Karn Mithralia
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Posted - 2006.03.03 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Fooma ... and the question was is this griefing, or typical EVE quality players?
No its not griefing, no its not typical EVE quality players. No 'or' about it.
People do play EVE like that, its legitimate play, but most people get bored real quick. Your typical EVE player does not choose that style of play. -----------------------------------------
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Tonkin
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Posted - 2006.03.03 11:45:00 -
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you get some peeps that cant pvp against people with bigger sp than them
will kill anythin for the right price |
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Eddie Elch
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Posted - 2006.03.03 11:51:00 -
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I think fighting back is the answer. Just get yourself a stock pile of cheap frigs, Kesterals or what not, load them up as suicide birds, then attack them in groups. Focus your fire power on only one target at a time. Rinse and repeat.
If you are at war. Go everywhere with an escort.
Mining can be a solitary pursuit and I guess that's what these guys count on. The only weapon you really have is team play and intelligence. Sure you will take loses, but sooner or later, picking on you won't be as much fun as it was and they will move on...
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.03.03 11:57:00 -
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You're mining/production?
Cool.
Produce a load of tacklers and T1 combat frigates.
Jump on an enemy ship or group of ships, kill ONE ship, run away, and log off.
Or log on, find them, and get them to chase you to a station. Dock in the station, and then leave your computer while you go off to do whatever else you do. Let them camp the station while you're not even playing.
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W0LFMAN
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Posted - 2006.03.03 12:01:00 -
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(This is Out of charactor)
I had this happen to me few years ago when i started...I feels horrible.. Most likly sounds like a spy...
What we did was ask for help in local. Eve was much different then.. only 2000 people online durning the week... Luckly a Uber player was listening and brough his friends round in BS's and super ganked the Merc corp that was on us.. They did it with Pure Style and Panash!! Made up for all my loses and showed the bullies what colour they were readly made from...One day Ill help a small corp like that again...
"Circle of Eve"
Regards W0LFMAN Lt-Commander
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Sevdah
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Posted - 2006.03.03 12:06:00 -
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hey fooma,
when i started playin eve, the corp i was in at that time had the same problem. some 3 year old players tried to extort easy ISK from us. same blahblahblah about contract and stuff. of course untrue. well we all just left the corp back to NPC one for few weeks. i say put the corp into alt hands for a while till those terrorist get bored and eventually end the war. it worked for us. and forget all that crap about ("survival of the fittest" LOLs) contacting the CEO, surrendering or investing in some merc protection. its not worth the effort. k for now i wish barbi all the best.
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Shidhe
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Posted - 2006.03.03 12:18:00 -
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Join an alliance - my guess is that your enemy arent that good if they havent got anything better to do, so you shouldnt have too much trouble finding a alliance to take you on.
I also like the massed frigate squads, if you can get organised enough.
Get someone who knows about PvP to give you a few lessons - you can sometimes hire individuals from merc corps to join your corp for a few days.
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000Hunter000
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Posted - 2006.03.03 12:46:00 -
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Yeah, no matter what people say, the fact a big corp can wardec a small corp just for the heck of is is the sux0rs!
Survival of the fittest.. blah! we have concord, so concord should decide of a war is valid or not, and 'just because i am a retard and feel powerless in RL so i wardec newbs ingame' should not be a valid reason for a war imo.
Having ranted the above, i must say... CCP won't change it (sadly), so do as some of the posters mentioned, return to alt corps and/or move for a while, the morons will get bored eventually.
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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2006.03.03 13:11:00 -
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we are a new corp, and we stay in 0.5 and above, usually 0.7
We won't move to lower space until we are able to defend ourselves with a good fleet and exp, and also enter our corp into a good Alliance.
Of course we could make ISK faster by mining 0.0-0.4, but we'd get picked off and evn as new players know this. So instead we stick with CONCORD protection, make minimal money, run complexes, and take our time so when we are ready to move into low sec space we won't have as much as a problem as having to disband and move.
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Tommy TenKreds
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Posted - 2006.03.03 13:22:00 -
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"Wisdom is a defence, and money is a defence: but the excellence of knowledge is that wisdom gives life to those who have it." (Ecclesiastes 7, 12)
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inSpirAcy
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Posted - 2006.03.03 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Gaines Of course we could make ISK faster by mining 0.0-0.4, but we'd get picked off and evn as new players know this. So instead we stick with CONCORD protection, make minimal money, run complexes, and take our time so when we are ready to move into low sec space we won't have as much as a problem as having to disband and move.
You have no protection from CONCORD with a warring corp.
Yes, they'll stand by and laugh at you. Even in Jita.
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Luther Kincaid
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Posted - 2006.03.03 13:26:00 -
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here's a nice one to annoy them.. sit outside station in tanked ship.. let them shoot you until you're into half armour. dock.. repair.. launch.. rinse and repeat
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