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Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:50:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:It's time for my semianual "Yiffing in stations" post. I can't wait till the walls of every station resemble a slasher film where all of the blood has been replaced with spooge.
Kind of like Second Life.
Only if all goonswarm members have their avatars become furries.
Kind of like Second Life.
Miasmos wrote:mature content in station please
with aurum unlocking bigger member and stuff
Would give new meaning to 'implants' in game, that's for sure.
I am the Walrus. |
Mekkimaru
Abraxsys Get Off My Lawn
36
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Posted - 2013.12.07 00:51:00 -
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pretty sure it was mentioned but i dont wanna look into the pages, but didn't (CCP Fozzie?) say at eve down under that, while there was no work currently being done on it, that it did not mean they would stop and were just "waiting"
i remember because the crown applauded when he said it was a pvp game, then he suddenly said but that doesnt mean its gone forever, and then the clapping stopped? made me lol
if it does eventually come though, it should be a button thing, like cq, so if people dont wanna use it, just dont hit the button
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Would give new meaning to 'implants' in game, that's for sure. I want deadspace boobs, or gallante Navy faction ones.
inb4 boob implant skill
[Breast Augmentation] (x100)
Increases breast size, regardless of gender, by 20% per skill level.
"What you don't get is that EvE is the most handholding, casual game ever. It is like farmville. No competition for people that want to put time in it. EvE is the most casual game of all times." - Caesarion Prime 2013 |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
627
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Posted - 2013.12.07 01:06:00 -
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Cindy Marco wrote:One of the biggest issues was the speed of progress. Incarna took almost a year and was released with just one interior complete. It took them another expansion to get the other races done.
Then you must consider the fact that Incarna as it was delivered is unusable for its original design. Its simply too resource intensive for the majority of people to use if other people will be interacting on screen.
It was poorly conceived and executed. It would really be have to remade from scratch and I (along with many others) don't want to lose a another year to Barbie Dress-up in Space.
For someone who doesn't like barbie dress up, you've done a good job of dressing up your avatar. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
320
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Posted - 2013.12.07 01:13:00 -
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Mekkimaru wrote:
inb4 boob implant skill
[Breast Augmentation] (x100)
Increases breast size, regardless of gender, by 20% per skill level.
Cosmetic Surgery Skill (x5) Able to use cosmetic implants. Prerequisites: Science 3
I am the Walrus. |
SpaceSaft
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
28
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Posted - 2013.12.07 01:42:00 -
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I think WIS as an idea won't die. They probably have backups of the stuff they worked on archived. I think CCP has a lot up their sleive they thought about and put on hold or develop without anyone telling. See the EVA prototype. See Valkyrie, which people like. See Dust which people like in theory as well. What went wrong is hard to say without inside info. They probably thought they could approach this like they approach the second decade right now and phase things in slowly. The decline in subscriptions got in the way and they put that on hold. Maybe they told the players too early. I mean if we look at Retribution and Odyssey, well... Is it so hard to believe that Rubicon is not just in the works since the summer? 6 months seem like a pretty short period to plan the next... 5 years? On the other hand WIS was a big change so it's probably fair they told the players.
To the people who say "don't waste my eve dev time". It's not yours. It's not mine. Just take a break. Go start a balancing thread.
Props to the guys who actually have arguments.
P.S.: Fittings are like spaceship dress ups.
Besides that I also hold the opinion that CCP should make a PC version for Dust 514. |
Sointu Luonnotar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2013.12.07 01:55:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Mekkimaru wrote:
inb4 boob implant skill
[Breast Augmentation] (x100)
Increases breast size, regardless of gender, by 20% per skill level.
Cosmetic Surgery Skill (x5) Able to use cosmetic implants. Prerequisites: Science 3
I'd actually pay for a breast reduction on my character. Not everyone wants giant boobs and the smallest ones you can make are still quite large. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
627
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Posted - 2013.12.07 01:56:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Ila Dace wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote: The players did , whith their massive revotls, riots and demands that CCP scrapped the focus on incarna in favor of SPACE. CCP lost a LOT of costumers and only started gettign them back after they complied.
THey leaarned a lesson. Do not expect anything incarna related soon.
I really hate revisionist history. The statue shooting and unsubscribing was over the NeX, Pay-to-Win, and because Incarna didn't deliver enough avatar gameplay for the time it took to develop it. WiS types are delusional (as evidenced by you people still harping on this 2 years after it's all been decided). Do you think we all just made up our memories of US screaming "it's a space ship game" to CCP and our CSM reps?
Yes sir I do. I was there on my old toon, the one I biomassed in protest at the nex store, the gold ammo and pay to win, plus I spoke to people shooting the statue and joined in protests in every trade hub, they all said the same, they didn't want pay to win in eve. I also remember incarna being really well received then the 'greed is good' **** storm broke and the emergency csm meeting as CCP were worried that their cash cow was about to die.
It was at this time the csm convinced CCP that the rage was about avatars and that eve should be fis, because they primarily were only interested in fis development and wanted sov fixed, but that's what you get when the csm only represents null sec vested interests. In game politicians hijacked community anger to further their own ends forgetting that they represented the whole community even the ones that didn't vote for them. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Oxylan
QRDELESH - Mutual Admiration Society
86
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Posted - 2013.12.07 02:04:00 -
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Hi OP, Your topic in short video verision. If it bleed we can kill it. |
Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
772
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Posted - 2013.12.07 02:07:00 -
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Funny how they never got WiS and never fixed SOV.
Well, you'll get WiS soon enough when it comes out in Star Citizen.
But by that I mean you'll be playing Star Citizen... "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. Captain Tardbar: The official grumpy cat of General Discussion. |
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
322
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Posted - 2013.12.07 02:10:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote: It was at this time the csm convinced CCP that the rage was about avatars and that eve should be fis, because they primarily were only interested in fis development and wanted sov fixed, but that's what you get when the csm only represents null sec vested interests. In game politicians hijacked community anger to further their own ends forgetting that they represented the whole community even the ones that didn't vote for them.
Yeah, that was an impressive highjack, and shows that PvP isn't just limited to fis.
CCP had never really broached the idea of pay to win, but the nice thing about eve is they're willing to believe the worst, so a quick slippery slope fallacy and casting the leaked CCP documents in the worst possible light and people were getting ready to light bonfires under Hellmar.
In retrospect, it was the greatest con ever pulled on the EvE Community, And there are still rubes who believe it to this day.
I am the Walrus. |
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Vardec Crom
Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
6
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Posted - 2013.12.07 02:41:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:Baroness Vulna wrote:So it has been over two years since the fateful walking in stations expansion Incarna. I am wondering if it ever came out; who at CCP messed up the whole walking in stations idea that badly?
I think many of us remember back in 2007 the ten ton hammer video of CCP showing us a glimpse of walking in stations, it was gorgeous and we waited anxiously for 4 years to see this come out. What we got was completely different from what was shown to us before. It was not anything like we expected or was advertised, a total let down.
So who made the big decision to scrap the good walking in stations for what we have now? Why did CCP drop development of walking in stations when all they had to do was come out with what everyone was looking forward to...walking around a station. Being able to walk up to your ship and zoom out to see the awesome size comparison.
Do you know there are sci fi games coming out that are in beta right now that allow you to walk up to your ship? After ten years of EVE and two years of incarna, why cant the biggest sci fi game in the world still not let players walk up to their awesome ships? What are you doing wrong CCP?
Concerned customer. The players did , whith their massive revotls, riots and demands that CCP scrapped the focus on incarna in favor of SPACE. CCP lost a LOT of costumers and only started gettign them back after they complied. THey leaarned a lesson. Do not expect anything incarna related soon. Not true actually, they demanded that ccp scrap the focus on micro transactions in that nex store, this anger was hijacked by a minority of fis enthusiasts some of which sat on the csm at the time who managed to convince ccp that everyone hated non fis development when clearly that is not the case. None of the above would have happened had there not been a leaked memo from CCP entitled 'GREED IS GOOD' which outlined ideas of pay to win products for sale in the nex store.
It really wasn't just the vocal minority. It was combination of extremely bad press and very troubling trends in the subscriber base, as in absolutely no post-expansion spike which is a bad, bad sign. For the amount of development resources needed to make wis and by extension micro-transactions viable, it was simply unsustainable at the projected rate of subscriber loss. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
608
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Posted - 2013.12.07 04:03:00 -
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I have removed a lot of rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The rules: 3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
19. All posts must be related to EVE Online.
Posts regarding other companies and products or services are prohibited and any content of this nature will be removed. Posts regarding other games are however permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum for the purposes of discussion only.
22. Post constructively.
Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.
26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued.
30. Abuse of CCP employees and ISD volunteers is prohibited.
CCP operate a zero tolerance policy on abuse of CCP employees and ISD volunteers. This includes but is not limited to personal attacks, trolling, GÇ£outingGÇ¥ of CCP employee or ISD volunteer player identities, and the use of any former player identities when referring to the aforementioned parties. Our forums are designed to be a place where players and developers can exchange ideas in a polite and friendly manner for the betterment of EVE Online. Players who attack or abuse employees of CCP, or ISD volunteers, will be permanently banned from the EVE Online forums across all their accounts with no recourse, and may also be subject to action against their game accounts.
31. Rumor mongering is prohibited.
Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual solid information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. These kinds of threads and posts are detrimental to the well being and spirit of the EVE Online Community, and can create undue panic among forum users, as well as adding to the workload of our moderators.
ISD Ezwal Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Flamespar
Woof Club
944
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Posted - 2013.12.07 05:15:00 -
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Ignore the idiots afraid of change.
EVE's executive group have said they will look at avatar gameplay when they have the resources to implement it in such a way that it is fun and doesn't result in the neglect of space gameplay. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
774
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Posted - 2013.12.07 05:29:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Captain IQ wrote:EVE is dying I can't quite communicate the feel I get from seeing posts saying this after having spent nearly a decade seeing posts saying this. Some people can't separate (in their minds) themselves from everyone else, so they think that if THEY are starting to dislike something, every one else is too, therefore EVE must be dying....when in fact, EVE is only dying for THEM. Funnily enough, in the General Discussion forum, people who can't understand the concept described above tend to have the word "Captain" in their screen names
I see what you did there.
Its ok. One does not really believe EVE is dying. One says it is so simply for the provocation.
For all you know I might be in Null sec ratting now enjoying this glorious game.
Though I'm pretty sure somone else will have walking in stations before this game does. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. Captain Tardbar: The official grumpy cat of General Discussion. |
marVLs
523
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Posted - 2013.12.07 08:52:00 -
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Those presentations linked here were awesome, don't see them before but srly whole WiS idea was incredible cool with those rental pockets on stations with own customization
Who decide to abandon this?! There was so much content, really good content throwed away for single room with looong corridor...
CCP don't be afraid of WiS, that first idea showed on those presentations were just enought to be succes, please understand that WiS don't need to be useful in every aspect, players expect from it to more more relaxing, personal space system with social environment. Players just want to hang out in bar, play minigames, furniture own space, have own busines on station like medical room, drug store, bar, casino, disco etc.
Don't try to give everything on one time. Do it in "EVE style" that means give us some core gameplay/elements, maybe even with not much content but that core would be fundation for everything later, so on start we will get opened door but in every next expansions something will be added just like now with many eve elements (graphic updates, ships rebalance, new ships, new modules etc). So with launch of WiS we will get only few areas, few furniture options but every another expansion will add someting like new minigame, smuggling element for WiS, new rooms etc. GIVE US AT LEAST THOSE FUNDATIONS (like now deployable structures are fundations for new POS system. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2680
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Posted - 2013.12.07 09:24:00 -
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Whoaa, this thread has been sanitized into obliteration...
Anyone interested to keep discussing the matter, can go to the "official" thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2023393#post2023393
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
628
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Posted - 2013.12.07 09:35:00 -
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Wtf, went to bed last night with 13 pages of discussion woke up with 7... Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Captain IQ
Innocent Traders Ltd
53
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Posted - 2013.12.07 11:43:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Captain IQ wrote:EVE is dying I can't quite communicate the feel I get from seeing posts saying this after having spent nearly a decade seeing posts saying this. Some people can't separate (in their minds) themselves from everyone else, so they think that if THEY are starting to dislike something, every one else is too, therefore EVE must be dying....when in fact, EVE is only dying for THEM. Funnily enough, in the General Discussion forum, people who can't understand the concept described above tend to have the word "Captain" in their screen names I see what you did there. Its ok. One does not really believe EVE is dying. One says it is so simply for the provocation. For all you know I might be in Null sec ratting now enjoying this glorious game. Though I'm pretty sure somone else will have walking in stations before this game does.
Dying isn't always instant fyi, yes it's been said for a long time I use to hate reading those posts too but now I'm really starting to believe it.
"Some people can't separate (in their minds) themselves from everyone else, so they think that if THEY are starting to dislike something, every one else is too, therefore EVE must be dying....when in fact, EVE is only dying for THEM."
And this is gobbledegook but if you mean I think everyone feels the same as I do then ofc I don't that would be daft but the plain fact is every time this subject comes up the discussion runs to many pages so deny it if you like but a lot of people feel strongly and hold an opposing view to you, deal with it rather than single one person out in the discussion just because you don't like the name Captain.
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Cindy Marco
Expanse Security
138
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Posted - 2013.12.07 12:06:00 -
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I find it strange that a comment I made about CCP dropping the ball so badly on an expansion that forced them to fire 20% of their workforce so they could pay their bills was a personal attack.
Seems more like truth than a personal attack.
I guess someone can't handle the truth. |
Anomaly One
106
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Posted - 2013.12.07 12:17:00 -
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Cindy Marco wrote:I find it strange that a comment I made about CCP dropping the ball so badly on an expansion that forced them to fire 20% of their workforce so they could pay their bills was a personal attack. Seems more like truth than a personal attack. I guess someone can't handle the truth.
truth always is a personal attack, for the person involved! depends on how you say it..
Never forget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_ZjVyRxx4
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2682
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Posted - 2013.12.07 12:20:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Wtf, went to bed last night with 13 pages of discussion woke up with 7...
I can't believe that 50% of posts were rule breaking, I know for a fact that mine were not.
And my list of reasons why WiS would be good for EVE was killed twice... fortunately I reposted it at the blue-badged thread, out of economy rather than intuition. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
Felicity Love
Nighthawk Exploration
1026
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Posted - 2013.12.07 12:25:00 -
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Repeat after me... "DUST killed WIS".
Just what the world needed... yet another "shooter" for yet another console... the pure dream of EVE and WIS -- "There was never much hope. Just a fool's hope."
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Davon Mandra'thin
Rotten Legion Ops
270
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Posted - 2013.12.07 12:41:00 -
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It suffices to say that WiS has a great deal of support. On Reddit someone posted a fan made picture of Avatar walking around a war room photo-shopped from the dust war room images, and it received more attention in it's limited time than the pictures of the new SoE Battleship posted on the same day.
On a great many of CCPs recent facebook posts, the top comments have been people asking what happened to walking in stations. A very high proportion of posters in the forums are PvPers, null sec players, lowsec pirates, very high end traders and community site creators etc etc. But the vast vast majority of players are high sec players sat in mostly PvE and Industry corporations doing nothing particularly spectacular. You think they wouldn't want WiS? Even on the forums, PvPers etc are generally in support of the idea. Here on the forums it looks maybe 70/30 in favour of WiS, but in game I would say 90% or more would be in favour. A great many of those people never even knew it had been planned. Blissfully ignorant of the promises CCP made.
Felicity Love wrote:Repeat after me... "DUST killed WIS". There are so many people saying that CCP's idea for WiS was what killed it, and that it never would have worked etc. But frankly this is much much closer to the truth. They took on more than they could handle, so when it came time to deliver, they had nothing to show for it. |
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
331
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Posted - 2013.12.07 12:51:00 -
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It's nice that ISD thinks that accusing the previous CSM of misleading CCP is 'rumor mongering' despite the fact they made no bones about what they did, and have in fact been quite proud of it. It's not a 'rumor' when the people involved admit that it's true.
I am the Walrus. |
Mr Pragmatic
770
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Posted - 2013.12.07 13:16:00 -
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They should do an official silent vote when all characters log in if they are in favor for more Wis Content. Settle this once and for all. Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness. -á-Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling. |
Baroness Vulna
Armada vi Vulnezia
115
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Posted - 2013.12.07 14:14:00 -
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Mr Pragmatic wrote:They should do an official silent vote when all characters log in if they are in favor for more Wis Content. Settle this once and for all.
Thats a neat idea, i wonder if they could do that. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2682
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Posted - 2013.12.07 14:47:00 -
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Mr Pragmatic wrote:They should do an official silent vote when all characters log in if they are in favor for more Wis Content. Settle this once and for all.
If possible, never do a voting whose result may inconvenience you... The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
501
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Posted - 2013.12.07 14:54:00 -
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Mr Pragmatic wrote:They should do an official silent vote when all characters log in if they are in favor for more Wis Content. Settle this once and for all.
That vote already happened when so many people cancelled their accounts over Incarna CCP had to fly in the CSM for an emergency summit.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
Davon Mandra'thin
Rotten Legion Ops
272
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Posted - 2013.12.07 14:56:00 -
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Rhes wrote:Mr Pragmatic wrote:They should do an official silent vote when all characters log in if they are in favor for more Wis Content. Settle this once and for all. That vote already happened when so many people cancelled their accounts over Incarna CCP had to fly in the CSM for an emergency summit.
We've covered this Rhes, people didn't cancel their subs because of the idea of Walking in Stations. |
Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
501
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Posted - 2013.12.07 14:57:00 -
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Davon Mandra'thin wrote:Rhes wrote:Mr Pragmatic wrote:They should do an official silent vote when all characters log in if they are in favor for more Wis Content. Settle this once and for all. That vote already happened when so many people cancelled their accounts over Incarna CCP had to fly in the CSM for an emergency summit. We've covered this Rhes, people didn't cancel their subs because of the idea of Walking in Stations.
Well, technically they cancelled because real Eve content was ignored for two years while CCP worked on WiS.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
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