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MonkeyMagic Thiesant
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:40:00 -
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Curious to see the cpu load, on an i5-2500 @4ghz. I sat outside Jita, about 40km up......
No stream: 8%
1024x768 @30fps: 25% 1024x768 @60fps: 35%
1280x1024 @30fps: 35% 1280x1024 @60fps: 45%
1920x1200 @30fps: 46% 1920x1200 @60fps: 85%
Bugs:
1) A lot of problems with stream stability - it drops constantly and I have to restart. Doing anything with the client window seems to trigger this especially.
2) After some stream fails, the password field gets wiped and it won't let you logon for a while.
3) The 60fps option seems to crash the eve client frequently. Again, moving the window or doing anything seems to trigger this.
4) Minimising the window crashes the client after 10-15 seconds. A bit of a shame, because this saves a lot of cpu cycles.
Is it really streaming everything from your mike too? That needs to have an option to mute if so. |
Shinah Myst
SoT DarkSide.
22
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Posted - 2013.12.10 13:40:00 -
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Octoven wrote:CCP Rise wrote:We are restricted in what resolutions we can offer based on the twitch SDK, but you can select from a wide range of options and then you can also choose the framerate all the way up to 60fps and then we automatically adjust the bitrate to handle your framerate selection. I believe he asked you to read the thread before **** posting NOT the dev blog and if you had read it properly you would have seen the above posted on page 1 Oh really?! Then how comes that OBS CAN do 1920x1080 using the very same Twitch API? Wide range you say? I have only two options: 1024x768 and 1280x1024. Again, the client itself runs at 1920x1080 just fine. So maybe someone should test their code better after all?
As with EVE Voice yet again CCP releases underdeveloped feature that is borderline useless compared to the third party tools. What's the point? |
Oxylan
QRDELESH - Mutual Admiration Society
86
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:18:00 -
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Just testing this feature in game, lose connection with my live stream after few second, any tip or link to page where i can read about internet configuration things while streaming ? for sure is problem with internet or EvE client, because in other cases my internet works fine, also new PC so not hardware issue. If it bleed we can kill it. |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
1556
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:32:00 -
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Spying in EVE got +1 integrated instrument \o/
P. S. Guys, you've forgot to implement / distribute SoE t-shirts. And patch notes. |
Shing Thsu
hirr RAZOR Alliance
4
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:31:00 -
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CCP Gargant wrote:With the release of EVE Online: Rubicon 1.0.8 on the 10th of December, Twitch.tv integration will be added to the client! This will allow you to bypass all 3rd party programs and stream directly to Twitch.tv! CCP Rise has all of the details here. Let us know how you would like this feature to evolve in the future, and how you intend to use it. We can expect more streams to pop up in the next couple of months, and we will welcome all of them with open arms!
Hey
so tell me pls, what will happen when 500 defenders ggonna defend a system in rf, they all load grid, they all lunch sentries/fighters/bombers and start streaming, everyone just as attackers will jump into the system with for exaample 1000 members, will this make node crush ?
or 1500 defenders streaming at defending system vs 1500 attackers, will this make node crush ? or opposite, 1500 attackers with stream on will jump into enemy system while streaming, will this make node crush ? or 2500 defenders with drones out and 2500x live stream..
and yes i am interested how this eve inside streaming could be used as combat tactic, to crush node for example or never ending lag taidai fight ? is this possible ? and how pls ? some1 will find this info and use it for himself as advantage, so why not to tell everyone that "for example u need 3k dudes to crush the node anytime" |
MotherSammy
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:32:00 -
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The market stream Rise watched the other night was mine! \o/ find me most night at twitch.tv/mothersammy commencing roughly 5pm GMT |
Felicity Love
Nighthawk Exploration
1034
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:57:00 -
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Awesome job ! I'm loving it ! Well Done CCP !
Now then... technical prowess having been proven...
*** Put the JUKEBOX back in. ***
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
352
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Posted - 2013.12.10 16:26:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:Awesome job ! I'm loving it ! Well Done CCP !Now then... technical prowess having been proven... *** Put the JUKEBOX back in. ***
Nah, they'll remove this feature soon and tell us to use a 3rd Party Twitch TV app that does it better, and tell us they're going to spend the time instead working on more content.
Which will turn out to be the ability to tweet in game.
Unless your thread is limited to how 'awesum!' Eve Online is, ISD will lock the thread.-á You will find it is particularly common if CCP might have to make a public response to the thread subject, as opposed to bury it in the GM que for the forseeable future and then prohibit telling anyone what the GM said, if it's ever answered at all. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch OLD MAN GANG
609
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Posted - 2013.12.10 16:48:00 -
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unusable ****** feature, you have to use still 3th party streaming software to stream anything from EVE to do it proper way. |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
4553
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:07:00 -
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No 1680x1050 option. . |
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Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
129
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:14:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:No 1680x1050 option.
Not to mention that selecting any of the stream resolutions changes the entire game's resolution.
So I can either have a really small window of the game, a really small window of the game, or a ugly aspect ratio (1600x1024) of the game.
Which, by the way, fucks up all the window frame positions. |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:34:00 -
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Is there gonna be a hotkey to start and stop the stream?
Also my stream runs for 10secs then stops. Corpmate is having same issues anyone else? Blue-Fire Best Fire |
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CCP Maverick
C C P C C P Alliance
6
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:55:00 -
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Hi all and thanks for your continued feedback. Rest assured - we are reading.
For those of you having issues with streaming, please remember that streaming is quite an intensive process. Twitch Recommends:
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz or AMD equivalent MEMORY: 8GB DDR3 SDRAM OS: Windows 7 Home Premium So whilst your computer may meet the recommended spec for EVE Online, you may experience issues streaming to twitch. CCP Maverick | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Game of Drones |
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CCP Maverick
C C P C C P Alliance
6
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Posted - 2013.12.10 17:55:00 -
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Aquila Sagitta wrote:Is there gonna be a hotkey to start and stop the stream?
This is something we will consider but obviously we don't want people accidentally streaming when they don't want to. CCP Maverick | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Game of Drones |
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd CAStabouts
1393
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Posted - 2013.12.10 18:02:00 -
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All the people who are worried about giving away their location seem to have forgotten how info panels work.
You can already hide the system you're in. |
Phoenix Jones
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
310
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Posted - 2013.12.10 19:15:00 -
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I watched a stream of an alt watching a gatecamp, and eve didn't explode.
It's broken. :-P
FYI, 1920 x 1080 please :-) Stabbers are totally broken
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15116553
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Ikranis De'Arth
Prospero Research and Development Holdings
0
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Posted - 2013.12.10 20:39:00 -
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It's a nifty toy and can have some good use. I've been experimenting with it all day and it's not too bad for the casual streamer.
Fixes: Audio selection for stream, it likes to turn on your mic and transmit everything the sound card can do. If there were some check boxes for ( Eve Game sounds, Local Microphone, maybe a key binding to turn on the mic.?) I have a bunch of kids running around and I'm not sure everyone that could watch the stream will enjoy me telling them to STFU daddy's blabbing on the internet :)
Workarounds: Someone can see that I'm in System X: Just move your dscan window over that corner :) It's not Private: You can change that from the twitch.tv site/profile settings.
It's a cool toy and I think the BETA of it is good as a proof of concept and basic streamer. With a few small tweaks to it I think the casual streamer will enjoy.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
5762
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Posted - 2013.12.10 21:01:00 -
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CCP Maverick wrote:Aquila Sagitta wrote:Is there gonna be a hotkey to start and stop the stream? This is something we will consider but obviously we don't want people accidentally streaming when they don't want to. Don't have anything bind to it by default. If the user actively on his own binds something to it, I think you can be cleared of all reasonable responsibility concerning accidental streaming. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
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Posted - 2013.12.10 21:02:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:Spying in EVE got +1 integrated instrument \o/
P. S. Guys, you've forgot to implement / distribute SoE t-shirts. And patch notes.
And a jukebox so we can listen to EVE music without 3rd party apps... again. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
Sinooko
Gespenster Kompanie Villore Accords
56
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Posted - 2013.12.10 22:00:00 -
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The fact that i have to alter resolutions kinda screwed up my carefully laid out UI and I almost had a seizure...
I love the idea but it needs some more basic functionality before I use it myself. Long Live Eve Online! |
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teh penguins
Honestly We didnt know Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.12.10 23:32:00 -
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These are the things we need this twitch app to do.
1. Private/Passworded Streams 2. Delay ( or private stream ) 3. Blocking of Systems
I stream to twitch cause I don't want to use my hard drive space, so I do private streams that I then highlight/make public. I hide my location because I don't want people figuring out how I get to the places I goto for PVP, I don't need them waiting for me somewhere or trying to find me.
Sure this is eve, but I doubt anyone who currently streams will use this function. especially since the majority of them use webcams in their stream, even mr Rise did. |
Bambi
Abh Academy Abh Alliance
1
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Posted - 2013.12.10 23:33:00 -
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Why do people always assume they will be given the prefect solution at the first implementation. Its one less program to install and load for the casual streamer, and it works out of the box. If you want more use a dedicated app, notepad - Word
I can see people putting this to some very inventive uses in the future, as EVE players always seem to be able to do.
Still coming on strong ten years on *big hug* |
Lonli Lonki
Fo Min
31
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Posted - 2013.12.10 23:49:00 -
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1. Please 1920 x 1080 2. If you cant do 1080p, then please do like other softwares - game is full HD but stream in converted to lower rez. At this moment for my screen is impossible to play/ 3. HUD, for chat from twich (so all people can read the chat IN the video), this is an important feature for recording). And make blank/hidden some parts of the screen (chat, wallet, systems, overview, name). 4. Local storage recording. 5. Hotkeys for stream and sounds. For instance, i want to have an option to keep talking into TeamSpeak but not to steam.
Since that is inside your game client i pretty sure, you can add a checkbox like "do not display character sheet even if i opened it"
but 1. most important. |
Rammix
TheMurk
177
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Posted - 2013.12.11 00:23:00 -
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Shinah Myst wrote:As with EVE Voice yet again CCP releases underdeveloped feature that is borderline useless compared to the third party tools. What's the point? This. There are other similar things ccp did improperly: eve voice, ingame browser, jukebox (now deleted, heh). They should either delete eve voice and the browser, or improve them at last. Otherwise new similar features like streaming are pointless.
p.s. Open The Door.
Where is the high resolution texture pack? OpenSUSE 13.1, wine 1.7 Covert cyno in highsec: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=296129&find=unread |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
445
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Posted - 2013.12.11 00:38:00 -
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Rammix wrote:Shinah Myst wrote:As with EVE Voice yet again CCP releases underdeveloped feature that is borderline useless compared to the third party tools. What's the point? This. There are other similar things ccp did improperly: eve voice, ingame browser, jukebox (now deleted, heh). They should either delete eve voice and the browser, or improve them at last. Otherwise new similar features like streaming are pointless. p.s. Open The Door. Where is the high resolution texture pack?
Ingame browser is ok, they need to upgrade it before EVE Online gets a CVE notification. Right now an attacker can compromise a user's computer via just jita spam of a website url because the browser engine is outdated severely.
EVE Voice is useless because it's locked down to channels and fleet which is stupid because people can't invite more than 250 to fleet(and what if you disconnect?) and the management controls are completely poor compared to a real voice server setup in 5 seconds. There's no way people will invite users to a chat channel because there's no way to see the full user list in real time. Meta gaming is serious business in EVE Voice and CCP didn't do jack **** to handle that "concern".
The Twitch feature however is cool and possibly a great direction to go in but holy fudge is it unfinished and missing all the options that matter (resolution, delay, hot keys). Point proven is there are right now 0 streams for EVE Online on twitch as of this post. |
MacQueen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.12.11 03:40:00 -
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The resolution options make this pretty unappealing for me over something like OBS, or another 3rd party streaming program.
I've played things like Planetside and Path of Exile, and they do not appear to be limited to these resolutions, as far as I could tell. Is the SDK limitation specific to it's implementation into EVE?
I love the idea of integrated Twitch streaming, but I feel the true power of this feature would really shine with a feature to obfuscate intel information like system names, etc. Though, I can see how something like that would require a lot of work. Please continue working on and improving this feature, as I believe it's a great addition to the game for introducing other players to EVE. |
Logicycle
Terra Incognita Insidious Empire
86
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Posted - 2013.12.11 04:59:00 -
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Very cool idea. |
Rune Jairos
Lumodynamics Power Control Corp Panda Cave
0
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Posted - 2013.12.11 07:44:00 -
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Tam Althor wrote:This seems like a real waste of development resources. Putting time into making something that is substandard to any of the 3rd party programs that people already use. Really what is the % of the player base that's even going to bother with this non space game toy?
I think you're missing the point. CCP isn't a A/V streaming company - it's a gaming company. This is a partnership to enable more people to use streaming... not a tool with all the bells and whistles and the MOST features to be the BEST tool on the market.
Take a breath, get some perspective, and enjoy that CCP is investing in long-term enhancements to their game by giving it community-focused tools that other games DON'T have. |
Steven Hackett
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
9
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Posted - 2013.12.11 08:02:00 -
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Rune Jairos wrote: I think you're missing the point. CCP isn't a A/V streaming company - it's a gaming company. This is a partnership to enable more people to use streaming... not a tool with all the bells and whistles and the MOST features to be the BEST tool on the market. .
Pretty ****** partnership if the result is worse-than-average features, isn't it? - maybe twitch will make us a new Ogame and call it a twitch feature Or maybe the twitch partnership will end like the 0wned one and we will have another broken "feature" in our client..
Nah.. 1/5 for the idea, 1/5 for the implementation and 1/5 for making half-assed features(is this becomming a CCP trend again?) |
Meleric
Verteidiger des wahren Bloedsinns Universal Constant Alliance
17
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Posted - 2013.12.11 08:54:00 -
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Funny thing here: Login complains, that my password is not correct ... changed it a few time and it's still the same thing. Is streaming with Windows XP maybe not possible? |
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