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Tadas Estidal
Jellyneers ACE Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:02:00 -
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Soooo,not long ago i joined a null corp mostly for fleet pvp and rarely pve. Atm i can fly t2 af,cloaky frigs and t2 cruisers,only amarr tho.i was told i should train for armageddon if i want to have some income. Should i even try solo ratting without t2 drones? Do neuts work on rats? Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:22:00 -
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Tadas Estidal wrote:Soooo,not long ago i joined a null corp mostly for fleet pvp and rarely pve. Atm i can fly t2 af,cloaky frigs and t2 cruisers,only amarr tho.i was told i should train for armageddon if i want to have some income. Should i even try solo ratting without t2 drones? Do neuts work on rats? Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Since any income is better than zero income, you should try ratting without T2 drones. It sounds like you might be better off in something for which you are already skilled. What T2 cruisers can you fly? A Sacrilege can be effective in a pinch.
Neuts will not do much to rats. An Armageddon would not be my last choice for ratting, but it is far from ideal.
I assume you are in Guristas space - my advice is to train for an Ishtar if you really want to rat effectively. Until then, get T2 Heavy Drones and/or sentry drones. If you feel compelled to use your lasers, use crystals that do more thermal damage.
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Janna Windforce
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.12.10 14:24:00 -
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Just rat in bomber? Quick and safe. |
Miasmos
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.10 15:41:00 -
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Bomber is a good proposal. Armageddon is a good proposal.
It's not about isk though. If you are willing to pvp your corp or alliance will give the ships for it. Players who play mean way more than cheap pvp ships. In order to enjoy eve, focus little in isk and more in building contacts. |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.10 18:03:00 -
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You have to be picky on your targets.
My targets were bs rats. That way t1 cruisers that I flew worked fine since bs rats could barely touch me. Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
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Posted - 2013.12.10 18:06:00 -
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properly fit, an AF or t1 cruiser can belt rat effectively. So can a bomber. A HAC does it like a t1 cruiser, but obviously much faster. MWD and max dps with a few resist mods is a good way to go, you can rep while warping to the next belt. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Froggy Storm
Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.12.10 20:10:00 -
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With regards to the T1 drones the navy sentry drones can be a big help at squeezing in a bit more efficiency from lower skill characters. That being said there is every reason to max out sentries right now. Particularly with the gedon and proph hulls. |
Gh0stBust3rs
Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.12.11 04:03:00 -
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geddon+ cruise missiles can get 800-900 dps.
Sac works fine for about 400 dps
If your just belt ratting a sac with HML will rock out. Make sure you fit an eccm though |
Tadas Estidal
Jellyneers ACE Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2013.12.11 06:43:00 -
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Miasmos wrote:Bomber is a good proposal. Armageddon is a good proposal.
It's not about isk though. If you are willing to pvp your corp or alliance will give the ships for it. Players who play mean way more than cheap pvp ships. In order to enjoy eve, focus little in isk and more in building contacts.
Making isk is mostly a side activity when there's no fleets to roam with. As bad as i am at pvp,i still prefer pvp over pve
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Samuel Wess
Stain Police Happy Cartel
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Posted - 2013.12.11 20:03:00 -
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I found Ishtar really OP now, you can rat with PVP fit. Optimal range on sentries 70+km outside npc damage area, and 700 DPS applied instantly to that range, plus if you learn the tricks you don't even need to target any rats, just deploy the drones after first one locked you and wait.
Walk into the club like "What up? I got a big cockpit!" |
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Tadas Estidal
Jellyneers ACE Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2013.12.12 10:35:00 -
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I was looking at a harbinger,seems alot cheaper than a bs but im worried it might not be enough for bs rats |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.12.12 10:40:00 -
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Any battlecruiser will be more than enough to kill any belt rats (excluding officer spawns).
However belt ratting is pretty terrible income. You should definitely look into running anomalies and complexes. |
Daquaris
The Loathsome Lions
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Posted - 2013.12.13 06:09:00 -
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Tadas Estidal wrote:Miasmos wrote:Bomber is a good proposal. Armageddon is a good proposal.
It's not about isk though. If you are willing to pvp your corp or alliance will give the ships for it. Players who play mean way more than cheap pvp ships. In order to enjoy eve, focus little in isk and more in building contacts. Making isk is mostly a side activity when there's no fleets to roam with. As bad as i am at pvp,i still prefer pvp over pve
Just say you're looking to rat for isk man. You have 3 whole kills to your name AND you're in C02. Get over yourself. |
Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations CODE.
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Posted - 2013.12.13 06:17:00 -
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Harbinger is fine for belt ratting. Conflag will burn through BSes pretty fast.
This setup should work well for Blood Raiders, and countering their neuts. I'm just guessing you're in BR space because you were told to fly Amarr ships. If you're in Sansha space, add TCs or something.
[Harbinger, Rat] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Medium Armor Repairer II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Medium Nosferatu II
Medium Energy Burst Aerator I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Oh god. |
Tadas Estidal
Jellyneers ACE Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2013.12.13 06:32:00 -
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Daquaris wrote:Tadas Estidal wrote:Miasmos wrote:Bomber is a good proposal. Armageddon is a good proposal.
It's not about isk though. If you are willing to pvp your corp or alliance will give the ships for it. Players who play mean way more than cheap pvp ships. In order to enjoy eve, focus little in isk and more in building contacts. Making isk is mostly a side activity when there's no fleets to roam with. As bad as i am at pvp,i still prefer pvp over pve Just say you're looking to rat for isk man. You have 3 whole kills to your name AND you're in C02. Get over yourself.
Yup,i'm looking for steady income to pay for my losses,if i don't have income,i can lose ships. On the co2 note - i'm a low sp new pilot also new to null,so i'm proud of my kills. |
Tadas Estidal
Jellyneers ACE Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2013.12.13 06:36:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Harbinger is fine for belt ratting. Conflag will burn through BSes pretty fast.
This setup should work well for Blood Raiders, and countering their neuts. I'm just guessing you're in BR space because you were told to fly Amarr ships. If you're in Sansha space, add TCs or something.
[Harbinger, Rat] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Medium Armor Repairer II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Medium Nosferatu II
Medium Energy Burst Aerator I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Thanks,i'll have to try this fit out.
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Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations CODE.
2127
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Posted - 2013.12.13 06:41:00 -
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The cap boosters are a bit of a pain to get into null for regular use. Ideally, you should use batteries and a vampire but I had some CPU issues and didn't try to refine the fit. You can probably improve it if you mess with it. Oh god. |
Tadas Estidal
Jellyneers ACE Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2013.12.13 06:49:00 -
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Hauling them to null regularly might be a pain but since i'm not the only who's gonna use em,i hope to find a way to keep myself and my corpues supplied with some help. |
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