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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3799
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Posted - 2013.12.13 18:22:00 -
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Markku Laaksonen wrote:Aiden Terona wrote:Jesus is still a thing? I feel no need to elaborate on any personal religious beliefs or lack thereof, but... You being a douche is still a thing?
What people fail to realize is that this time of "Christmas" actually falls on a time when the sun is at the lowest and the days at the shortest and for several days, nothing changes, which is abnormal in the solar "calendar".
For this, just about every civilization finds this yearly time period or cycle to be remarkable, and so religion or not, or other religions, and not having much in the way of science in the days of Olde, much activity is built around it.
Also, a lot of the traditions of this cycle is based on..... food storage. This is especially the case for the more northern climates.
Yeah, food storage.
So by this time, the cheeses are ripe, even the dried fruits are getting to that turning point, and even a well-cured pumpkin has roughly a month left ( I used to raise crops of pumpkins trust me I did tests). Cured animal produce still has a shelf life since they did not have the same recipe of caustic chemicals that Slim Jims have that lets them last for a year, and they didn't have Twinkies either.
Even eggs, which have a long shelf life, don't last forever and chickens in an age without electric lights don't lay much in the darkest days of winter (I also have chickens )
So a lot of tradition and festivals occurred on these times, and something significant was lent to the remarkable solar "death" that occurs from 21-24 December, and they had to eat up that food before the long cold winter too.
Edit: today people complain about putting on weight at this time. Our ancestors did this on purpose because it was necessary to get through winter. Ever go hungry in the winter AFTER already being too thin for lack of food? I have. And believe me when I tell you, you will get sick and actually feel the cold of the grave in your bones. It's not a good feeling.
When the Romans showed up, and the Vikings went Christian, rather than the globalist/bankster driven modern methods of forcing invaded societies to adopt fake democracy and central banking and then try to centralize their entertainment and culture to some Madison Avenue Hollywood driven tripe, the Romans and Vikings pretty much just planted flags and let people be, so a lot of the pagan and Celtic traditions were maintained and adopted into this religious holiday.
For this reason, when the atheists go on their rants against religion (while ironically drawing on a religion called "statism" to get nativities removed from public displays and displaying their own hypocrisy in the process) I like to remind them that in fact much of these "Christian" stuff is not purely so, and was merely people in the past doing something that both modern Christians AND anti-religionists themselves horribly fail at: adapting their own ideals and traditions without foisting on anybody else and everybody having a good time anyway. |
Rio Bravo
Gold State Sanctuary Pact
21
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Posted - 2013.12.13 19:34:00 -
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Who are those dirty little creatures? Space is clean! I was hoping CCP wouldn't get into holiday stuff...frankly. So we have gobliny elfish humanoids giving modules away...I hope this doesn't turn into dragons, and rainbow palaces with unicorns! Yaaar! weilding my Battle-axe +4 in station! Magic is gross...ew! GÇ£You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig.-áI dig.GÇ¥ -á- Clint Eastwood, misquote. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
82837
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:32:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: and was merely people in the past doing something that both modern Christians AND anti-religionists themselves horribly fail at: adapting their own ideals and traditions without foisting on anybody else and everybody having a good time anyway.
Why would these anti-religionists (they are called Athiests, btw) even want to "adapt" traditions to anything, much less towards another altered tradition ? This makes no sense.
Also, God has a really huge problem booking a birthday venue for his Son, because it falls on Christmas. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
682
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Posted - 2013.12.14 00:22:00 -
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Rio Bravo wrote:Who are those dirty little creatures? Space is clean! I was hoping CCP wouldn't get indrinkiday stuff...frankly. So we have gobliny elfish humanoids giving modules away...I hope this doesn't turn into dragons, and rainbow palaces with unicorns! Yaaar! weilding my Battle-axe +4 in station! Magic is gross...ew!
Relax man, it's just a bit of out of game fun. No one is turning eve into wow. join the party, have a drink, feels good doesn't it? Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3800
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Posted - 2013.12.14 00:36:00 -
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BTW,
This being Eve, will CCP to put the Festivus pole in EC-P8R?
Would feel like the right thing to do. Look at how Festivus is supposed to end.
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Jessica Danikov
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
157
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Posted - 2013.12.14 08:27:00 -
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CCP Doom wrote: Yep this is right, you don't have to log in every day to get the gifts. You could log in at any time and collect all those that are available.
And just to confirm the calendar will be available until the end of January although if you have already claimed all of the gifts these will always be in your in-game redeeming system until you allocate them to your character.
Good, I was worried I was going to have to change my travel arrangements so I could log into EVE on the 24th...
... then I realised you can collect the items via account management and all you need is a browser and internet connection, so even if that weren't the case, it isn't an issue. |
Jita Joe2 Jones
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2013.12.14 09:44:00 -
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why are the gifts such a pain in the ass to get ? internal server errors and website crashes to get a t1 item its more misery than its worth . If you are going to give me something just give it to me and be done. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
331
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Posted - 2013.12.14 09:57:00 -
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When the ROMANS!!!!!
Why are these gifts so terrible? Why in God's name would anyone get a 100MN MWD as a gift?
Jita Joe2 Jones wrote:why are the gifts such a pain in the ass to get ? internal server errors and website crashes to get a t1 item its more misery than its worth . If you are going to give me something just give it to me and be done. That would be too easy. When CCP gives you a gift, they make sure you are good and miserable until you receive it, and then realize it is a Prototype Cloaking Device. No blues. Kill everything.
In-game channel - Join Sniggwaffe |
Qaidan Alenko
Eezo-Lution Inc.
12722
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Posted - 2013.12.14 10:20:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:When the ROMANS!!!!!
Why are these gifts so terrible? Why in God's name would anyone get a 100MN MWD as a gift? Really, just why would anyone get a Barry Manilow Christmas album or a tow rope with a nipple from a livestock baby bottle..
Oh wait, I get it... gag gifts... Go ahead... Get your-áWham on!!! |
Ramona McCandless
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
1432
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Posted - 2013.12.14 13:25:00 -
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Koban Agalder wrote: I would say that probably people who celebrate the anniversary of birth of Jesus ?
Shame they dont know when it is Non omnis moriar |
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Rain6638
Team Evil
1087
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Posted - 2013.12.14 15:03:00 -
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CCP Doom wrote:In Iceland Christmas is celebrated with presents and dinner on the evening of December 24, the same as the rest of the Nordics and other European countries. Christmas Day itself is a day of recovery and for family and friends and this year, for watching 47 Ronin [ 2013.06.21 09:52:05 ] (notify) For initiating combat your security status has been adjusted by -0.1337 |
Toshiro Ozuwara
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
332
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Posted - 2013.12.14 18:12:00 -
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Qaidan Alenko wrote:Oh wait, I get it... gag gifts... They aren't even gag gifts. They are just terrible and pointless. No blues. Kill everything.
In-game channel - Join Sniggwaffe |
bongpacks
Mudbug Acquisition Of Empire
57
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Posted - 2013.12.22 21:47:00 -
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Hope the last two gifts are awesome because so far it's all crap, could have made more isk just playing the game in the time it took to log into account management, click each stupid yule lad and then redeem in game. The men's coat looks like a dress TBH and the only unique thing is a Fedo, a worthless make believe potato thing...awesome. |
bongpacks
Mudbug Acquisition Of Empire
57
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Posted - 2013.12.22 21:48:00 -
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Also: BAH HUMBUG! |
Noboru Tahvo Toivonen
State Protectorate Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2013.12.22 21:56:00 -
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bongpacks wrote:BAAAAAAW. WAAAAAH. *sniff* WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Translated your post.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2013.12.22 22:12:00 -
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Lors Dornick wrote:[quote=Vera Algaert] There's also the slight cynical idea that since there's wasn't any obvious date to celebrate the birth of Christ the church of that time (300 AD ish) decided that putting it at the same time as several pagan festivals was a good idea.
They didn't have to tell people to stop having a party, they just tweaked the reason.
It was actually an administrative convenience for the government of the time.
When Constantine for pragmatic purposes decided to take control of the christian movement by making it the official Roman religion:
- the Jewish festival of passover and the Jewish sabbath inconveniently mismatched existing Roman holidays - furthermore there was no mid winter eve festival at all which would have caused a riot if that holiday was cancelled
The solution:
- move the sabbath from the Jewish Saturday to the more convenient Sunday which was already a Roman religious holiday - move passover (Easter) to the existing fertility god holiday that was around the same time of year - invent a reason to keep mid winters eve as a holiday
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Omega Sunset
Caldari Roughnecks
100
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Posted - 2013.12.23 01:40:00 -
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Ayx Shewma wrote:The 'x days' until Christmas actually begins on Christmas day, not before. Seems CCP has fallen for the same 'get it done early so you can get it over with' mentality as with all other big corporations. Don't see why it matters, Christmas is in September. It was a time of harvest, no room at the inn etc. That's September-October. Anyway, watch the video, they are at war with Santa, so I don't see the problem with the lads doing it early to move in on Santa's territory.
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