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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:09:00 -
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Bringing new blood into EVE Online is important. As our older capsuleers move on to new pastures (even though we know they'll be coming back. No one ever 'quits' EVE Online!), the new players come in, energize things, and add their own uniqueness to the EVE Universe. The experiences of new players is something everyone is familiar with, but it's very rarely something that's been recorded.
But one new player (still under a month old right now!) has been recording his experiences in EVE Online over his first 30 days. His video series is the topic of this week's Community Spotlight! EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
10369
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:29:00 -
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Cool!
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Daedra Blue
Shadow Legion X Li3 Federation
58
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:33:00 -
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"But veterans of EVE, so often referred to as bitter by themselves in grim sarcasm, rarely get a chance to experience those feelings of wonder again."
Yeah because if i want to go fly awesome frig fights with newbies i have to pay 20M a clone when i actually fly a 500k is ship. To make matters worse we need to roll a new char to even be able to give it a decent shot right? Right! Remember a new account costs a plex a month? Yeah so its 20M+ per pod and ~600M a month to have fun with the newcomers. So when you ask yourself where all the high SP chars are and how your end game looks like when you are big a powerful.
It looks like being permanently stuck in a capital ship looking at POS shields all the time. It's as boring as it gets.
How about you revise the clone mechanic into a monthly fee and not a /per clone level or something that lets us have fun too. |
Annie Getyourgun
Snow Leopard Situs
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Posted - 2013.12.13 17:57:00 -
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Daedra Blue wrote:"But veterans of EVE, so often referred to as bitter by themselves in grim sarcasm, rarely get a chance to experience those feelings of wonder again."
Yeah because if i want to go fly awesome frig fights with newbies i have to pay 20M a clone when i actually fly a 500k is ship. To make matters worse we need to roll a new char to even be able to give it a decent shot right? Right! Remember a new account costs a plex a month? Yeah so its 20M+ per pod and ~600M a month to have fun with the newcomers. So when you ask yourself where all the high SP chars are and how your end game looks like when you are big a powerful.
It looks like being permanently stuck in a capital ship looking at POS shields all the time. It's as boring as it gets.
How about you revise the clone mechanic into a monthly fee and not a /per clone level or something that lets us have fun too.
I hear* you have three character slots per account, and can use one of those slots without paying for a second account. Yes, you can only train one character at a time, but since your veteran character with the 20M clone has all the skills trained, a month or two won't hurt while you train up this second character. You can even stop the training at a set time, in order to keep the cost of the clone on this frigate alt inexpensive (or even free!). Then once you have this character trained with adequate skills, you can go out and have fun flying awesome frigate fights with newbies, and don't have to worry about the cost of the clone. Heck, you can do with without hassling your capital ship pilot to ever leave the POS.
Sadly the only drawback is you cannot sit in your capital ship looking out the shields at the same time as having loads of inexpensive fun in frigates :(
*I am far to inexperienced to consider myself a bittervet, so any opinions or knowledge I might appear to be sharing should be weighted accordingly, and independently verified. |
Daedra Blue
Shadow Legion X Li3 Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.13 18:01:00 -
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But as you adequately see there is no solution that lets you use your vet char. |
Cristl
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.13 18:34:00 -
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I was a bit distracted here, but did that guy just use a navy drake (with no cloak or MWD) to run a newbie epic arc courier mission into lowsec?
We really need a newbie do's and don'ts guide. Also, where the hell do the apostrophes go in the phrase "do's and don'ts" ? |
Joran Jackson
The Red Circle Inc.
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Posted - 2013.12.13 18:48:00 -
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I really enjoyed this, it really did bring back those first few days, imagining the ships and all the things I could do. |
Stridsflygplan
Tigers in the Snow Nyratic
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:55:00 -
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Awesome! |
Rammix
TheMurk
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:59:00 -
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Cristl wrote:We really need a newbie do's and don'ts guide. There are tons of them. Like "there is p0rn of it, no exceptions", here in eve is a guide of it. The problem is, many newbies don't read guides, some don't even pass through tutorials (and we know that unlike other games, in eve going through all turorials is obligatory if you don't want to do mistakes multiple times more). OpenSUSE 13.1, wine 1.7 Covert cyno in highsec: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=296129&find=unread |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2013.12.14 00:32:00 -
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Day 4 so far, and it is driving me batty that he won't open the skill queue. |
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Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
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Posted - 2013.12.14 04:21:00 -
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Annie Getyourgun wrote:Daedra Blue wrote:"But veterans of EVE, so often referred to as bitter by themselves in grim sarcasm, rarely get a chance to experience those feelings of wonder again."
Yeah because if i want to go fly awesome frig fights with newbies i have to pay 20M a clone when i actually fly a 500k is ship. To make matters worse we need to roll a new char to even be able to give it a decent shot right? Right! Remember a new account costs a plex a month? Yeah so its 20M+ per pod and ~600M a month to have fun with the newcomers. So when you ask yourself where all the high SP chars are and how your end game looks like when you are big a powerful.
It looks like being permanently stuck in a capital ship looking at POS shields all the time. It's as boring as it gets.
How about you revise the clone mechanic into a monthly fee and not a /per clone level or something that lets us have fun too. I hear* you have three character slots per account, and can use one of those slots without paying for a second account. Yes, you can only train one character at a time, but since your veteran character with the 20M clone has all the skills trained, a month or two won't hurt while you train up this second character. You can even stop the training at a set time, in order to keep the cost of the clone on this frigate alt inexpensive (or even free!). Then once you have this character trained with adequate skills, you can go out and have fun flying awesome frigate fights with newbies, and don't have to worry about the cost of the clone. Heck, you can do with without hassling your capital ship pilot to ever leave the POS. Sadly the only drawback is you cannot sit in your capital ship looking out the shields at the same time as having loads of inexpensive fun in frigates :( *I am far to inexperienced to consider myself a bittervet, so any opinions or knowledge I might appear to be sharing should be weighted accordingly, and independently verified.
Actually you CAN train more than one character per account. That feature has been out for some months now.
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Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
275
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Posted - 2013.12.14 04:24:00 -
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Cristl wrote:I was a bit distracted here, but did that guy just use a navy drake (with no cloak or MWD) to run a newbie epic arc courier mission into lowsec? We really need a newbie do's and don'ts guide. Also, where the hell do the apostrophes go in the phrase "do's and don'ts" ? Edit: watching more videos...these could form the nucleus of the "do's and don'ts guide", regardless of its confounding punctuation. I'm enjoying watching these, despite the instictive urge to shout "no don't do that!" at the screen quite often.
Haha yeah def. I don't usually get such feelings when watching movies but with his videos I kept wanting to yell at the screen 'OMG DONT DO THAT!!!" |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.14 09:29:00 -
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Don't know why a brand new player is being featured in a Community Spotlight just for creating a Video blog about his noob experiences, especially when there's lot's of older Capsuleers who have created Video guides containing lot's of helpful info.
Not to sound jaded but I thought the main purpose of these Community Spotlights was to showcase and feature Capsuleers who have helped the community in one way or another.
Anyway, gratz to Kidabeybe Ahmed for being featured in this Community Spotlight.
DMC |
Kudabeybe Ahmed
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.14 10:39:00 -
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I woke up in the morning to compose yesterday's game play session when I noticed all these comments on my videos. It took me by surprise at first because I didn't know the article was released. Nice feeling to get recognized... even for little things we do. Just that it takes time to reply to all the comments.
Especially when some of them point out major mistakes!
Tau Cabalander wrote:Day 4 so far, and it is driving me batty that he won't open the skill queue.
EDIT: Had to stop watching. Too painful. I so want to help this guy.
Would it help if I said a day (or possibly two) went by where my character did not train on a skill?
But on a serious note. I am extremely grateful that my video series made it to the Eve Community Spotlight and wish to thank those who made that possible.
My first email to CCP was about requesting permission for publishing and monetizing the video game play series I was creating. CCP replied and gave me permission to publish but not to monetize. That was also when the CCP contact told me about their interest in what I was doing. And then it leads me here.
And I would like people to not forget why I started this series. It is not an attempt to 'teach' anyone anything about Eve Online. It is simply to show what a new player possibly goes through in this game. Is this what someone who wants to learn how to PVP would want to watch? Definitely not. Is it something a person who wants to create a corporation would want to watch? I doubt I'll be creating a corporation anytime soon.
If someone learns from what I do or don't do then great. If someone (most vets probably) gets annoyed at what I am doing and not doing then even that is okay. Because I can always learn from criticism... be it as negative as can be.
So the question everyone may wonder is; why am I still doing this?
Because it is FUN. I would not have stuck with this game, doing all that I do to get these videos published, if this was not fun. And if I am having fun in this game... then all is well (as far as I am concerned). THAT is the end goal for me for this series.
Where will this series take me next? Well, time will tell.
Kudabeybe & Ebd |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
2351
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Posted - 2013.12.14 14:47:00 -
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Please feel free to EVE-mail me if you have any questions.
Myself and others constantly lurk in the EVE New Citizens Q&A forum too.
Though nobody likes being stalked every time they login, also feel free to convo me with questions if you see me online. |
Tlat Ij
Hedion University Amarr Empire
59
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Posted - 2013.12.14 15:03:00 -
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Kudabeybe Ahmed wrote:Would it help if I said a day (or possibly two) went by where my character did not train on a skill? Thats pretty much the worst thing you could say about that. |
Kudabeybe Ahmed
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.14 15:55:00 -
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Tlat Ij wrote:Kudabeybe Ahmed wrote:Would it help if I said a day (or possibly two) went by where my character did not train on a skill? Thats pretty much the worst thing you could say about that.
Hehehe. Yeah I realized that on the second day when I was moping around waiting for the skills that could have been trained up to actually train. So far... I haven't repeated this mistake. Lets see how long I can keep that up now. |
Iella Wesirri
Dead Rats Tell No Tales
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Posted - 2013.12.15 23:39:00 -
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I've been watching his videos for about 2 weeks now. I remember watching the navy drake die. As someone in the HelpMyMission channel said, its like watching a train wreck in slow motion. All you can do is sit back and say "Noo! Nooooo! Nooooooooooooooooooooo!" I was thrilled he took up the MTU I told him about. It's such a great little thing to have.
To DeMichael Crimson, I'd hate to group you into the "bittervet" bin, but man you do sound like it there. What Kuda is doing there, while maybe not something that will be in the top 10 best things capsuleers have ever done, it still something pretty cool. After being around eve for over 6 years, I find myself being very jaded to almost everything that happens any more, and I forget what its really like for a new player. His video saga is pretty darned great if you ask me. It reminds me what new people go through, and what the learning curve is like for this game. I think it deserves the comunity spotlight thing.
CCP, good choice, broskis!
- Iella |
Matuk Grymwal
Collapsed Out Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2013.12.16 05:25:00 -
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For those old enough to remember, probably the first pilot that did this kind of thing was Innominate Nightmare:
https://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/index.php/INNOMINATE_NIGHTMARE_%28Character%29
He wrote a very entertaining blog on his experiences as a new player:
http://00experiment.blogspot.com/
Highly recommended if you've never read it before. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
2367
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Posted - 2013.12.16 21:41:00 -
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Organized to make it easier to read (scroll down): http://np.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1pxz3x/humorous_douglas_adamsesque_blog_of_a_new_player/ |
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Ali Cyne
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:46:00 -
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after being away from the game for 7 years, i did get to experience that sense of wonder twice. it was nice. please resist the greedy urge to encourage new players to roll multiple accounts, though. we get it, its a nice money maker, but it breaks the "story" of the game heavily for me. one account, one capsuleer imo! not popular i know. this is an alt btw. ha. |
Dirk Massive
D.O.O.M.
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Posted - 2013.12.20 04:50:00 -
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I remember my first days playing Eve, I was so lost I couldn't figure out hardly anything on my own. I couldn't even figure out the tutorial for new players. To this day I still have never done it. But somehow I stuck with it, figured it out, and have done quite a few things over the years in the game. In all my many years of gaming, the learning curve of Eve Online is the steepest of any game in my opinion. But in that is a golden egg. It weeds out the kiddos, and the idiots. lol Eve's player base on average is leaps and bounds more mature than any other game I've ever played. And I've played a lot of them. |
Mike Metcalf
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2013.12.20 06:52:00 -
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As long as I have been around I still learn new things. Watching these videos, I actually found out that you can Drag your ship to the Hangar to Change Ships, when was this introduced? |
Iella Wesirri
Dead Rats Tell No Tales
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Posted - 2013.12.20 16:52:00 -
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Few expansions ago as i recall. I had totally forgotten about that myself. Hee hee. |
Satina Valor
House of Valor Distributions
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Posted - 2014.01.05 03:46:00 -
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Please edit the link to http://freemusicarchive.org/ without the "s" because ...archives.org leads to a site that redirects to somewhere else with a lot of warnings popping up in my browser.
Also CM Storm is the name of a whole series of Cooler Master hardware, from mouse to bigtower. I guess the 5.1 headset was meant
I just finished watching the whole series and still am not sure what to think about it. i like that he takes the burdon of finding out stuff on his own to some degree but on the other hand i had the feeling that he went into the woods to live there and used all the books that would have told him how to survive there, for making fire instead.
Sometimes, actually often, he comes to wrong conclusions from what he learned on his own and makes it his truth and if another noob sees it, he might come to the same false conclusion since he told it in a teaching way.
When i started EVE i was also doing everything on my own for a few months before i accepted a recruitment offer, but the difference for me was that i had informed myself about the game weeks before subscribing, reading the PilotsGuide or whatever it was called that time and other online resources to figure out the basic game mechanics and so on.
Having an open mind about the open sandbox world is a good thing but knowing the very basics of this game environment is important to understand whats going on around you and the new guide ccp has created ( http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/communityassets/pdf/EVE-Online-New-Pilot-FAQ.pdf ) is a pretty good start combined with the NP Training sessions ( https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Category:New_Player_Training_Sessions )
Regarding the empty skill queue - yeah damn that hurt watching over several episodes :o at least that noob skill booster was active to compensate a little but knowing about cybernetics and attribute implants should be a lesson 1 thing to know before even being allowed to enter the game, lol.
Also moving a char to another account to get it away from steam was totally unneccessary - or did i misunderstand that part ? my main was also bought on steam but yet i never used steam to play it and you dont have to - unless that changed in the last few years.
Btw to get into that game in the first place, its a good idea to look out for some good eve streamers on twitch.tv or friends or other players you might know and ask them for a friend invite with 3 free weeks and additional goodies depending on how the trial account gets activated later on.
Anyway, i hope Ahmed/Demha is having fun for a long time trying out everything he wants with this great sandbox game, because thats what its all about |
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