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Shadrin
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Posted - 2006.03.07 02:05:00 -
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I made a Minmatar character that looks like a bad ass and that's my main motivation choosing him.
I made a Khanid character with these stats:
Int 5 Per 10 Char 5 Will 12 Mem 7
and the character I want to use is
8 int 6 per 8 char 9 will 8 mem
Which would you guys choose and why? ------------------------------------ Shadrin Imago Mundi
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.07 02:17:00 -
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no offense, they both got horrible stats, 2nd one looks more balanced but only 6 perc hurts alot
i wouldnt take either
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Shadrin
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Posted - 2006.03.07 03:10:00 -
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What should I do differently and why? ------------------------------------ Shadrin Imago Mundi
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2006.03.07 04:18:00 -
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Go achura:
9 3 9 9 9 is quite nice for someone who wants to dabble in a variety of things... or.
10 3 12 6 8
is pretty nice for a fighting character as well :) ---
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Shadrin
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Posted - 2006.03.07 05:20:00 -
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How about an Achura (I totally hate how they look) with these stats:
Intelligence 8 Perception 11 Charisma 3 Willpower 11 Memory 6
Going to use it as a Raven sniper pilot to fly support for my Blasterthron. ------------------------------------ Shadrin Imago Mundi
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2006.03.07 08:04:00 -
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Ok, willpower isn't that importaint. A high perception covers whatver effect the will would have had. You are much better off putting some of those will points into Int and Mem, for the raft of engineering and drone skills you'll need.
Basically: Perc>Int>Mem>Will>Char
Go read: The End of Balance?
Harry Voyager
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Severe McCald
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Posted - 2006.03.07 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Harry Voyager Ok, willpower isn't that importaint. Harry Voyager
Well, depends how long you want to play. It is primary for leadership and elite ship skills. (And when I started for gunnery as well ). So, balance is still sensible for the long term player.
Oh, don't forget trade. Primary for that too.
Sev
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.07 10:07:00 -
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Achura have nice stats but i honestly dont want to see 90% of eve running around as achura >_>
pick a race/tribe you like, then see that attribute distribution looks roughly like the following:
[highest] perc, int, willp, mem, charisma [lowest]
charisma shouldnt exceed 6 unless you plan to go heavy into leaderships
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Shadrin
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Posted - 2006.03.07 20:19:00 -
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Okay, say I wanted the best bloodline that isn't fugly Achura for a fighting character. How would you guys recommend creating it? Khanid I imagine? Where would you distribute the points and in what profession? ------------------------------------ Shadrin Imago Mundi
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2006.03.07 20:29:00 -
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Khanid Cyber Knight seems to be the best choice there. Put 3 points into Int, and 2 into Perception, and you'll have a good strong stat mix: Am/Khanid: I=9, C=5, P=13, M=4, W=8
Harry Voyager
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Tony Fats
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Posted - 2006.03.07 22:12:00 -
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Per > Int > Mem > Wil > Cha
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Shadrin
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Posted - 2006.03.07 22:53:00 -
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There seems to be some debate between you two, why would I choose memory over willpower for a fighting character? Isn't willpower more important? ------------------------------------ Shadrin Imago Mundi
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Scake
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Posted - 2006.03.08 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Shadrin why would I choose memory over willpower for a fighting character?
You wouldn't. Willpower is more important, by far.
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Tony Fats
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Posted - 2006.03.08 12:34:00 -
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I would choose Mem over Wil personally, even for a fighting char.
Mem gets your learning skills done faster, drones need mem, and its a secondary for electronics, engineering, and so forth, its just a more critical stat all-around.
Wil is basically a secondary, except for some of the cap ships. By the time you're flying capships, you can afford to pop a +4 willpower implant in your skill, and with good mem skill you will get advanced willpower done more quickly.
To me its just not worth it to be that highly specialized, because of diminishing returns, having 14 wil versus having 10 wil is the same as popping a +2 per implant into your head, are you really gonna sacrifice an extra 4 Mem for that?
Per > Int > Mem > Wil > Cha
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Scake
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Posted - 2006.03.08 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tony Fats I would choose Mem over Wil personally, even for a fighting char.
Mem gets your learning skills done faster, drones need mem, and its a secondary for electronics, engineering, and so forth, its just a more critical stat all-around.
Wil is basically a secondary, except for some of the cap ships. By the time you're flying capships, you can afford to pop a +4 willpower implant in your skill, and with good mem skill you will get advanced willpower done more quickly.
To me its just not worth it to be that highly specialized, because of diminishing returns, having 14 wil versus having 10 wil is the same as popping a +2 per implant into your head, are you really gonna sacrifice an extra 4 Mem for that?
Per > Int > Mem > Wil > Cha
Huh? Willpower is just a secondary attribute yet memory isn't?
Drones and learning skills are not cause enough to invest heavily in memory. In comparison to weapon skills, for example, where the secondary attribute is willpower, the sp needed for drone skills is exceptionally lower.
On the subject of learning skills; absolutely no one should be basing their attributes around them just to advance through them quickly. They require only around 2 months of training time to get the advanced to lv.4, even with poor mem/int attributes.
Electronics/engineering skills do require memory yes, but again when comparing to weapon skills the overall sp investment required is relatively low as the skills donĘt rank as high. This means that a higher willpower will definitely pay off as the semi-reliant willpower skills will be where the majority of training time is spent.
So im going to have to disagree and say:
Per > Int > Will > Mem > Cha
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.03.08 18:52:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 08/03/2006 18:53:04
Originally by: Harry Voyager Khanid Cyber Knight seems to be the best choice there. Put 3 points into Int, and 2 into Perception, and you'll have a good strong stat mix: Am/Khanid: I=9, C=5, P=13, M=4, W=8
Harry Voyager
4 Memory? Would hurt when training engineering and assorted skills.
I would go achura, ugly as they may be they have awesome attributes. Put 1 point in Perc, 2 in Mem and 2 in Will, then select Monk and youll have; Perc/Willpower: 10 Intell/Mem: 8 Charisma: 3
Gives you nice all-round attributes with an advantage towards combat/ship skills. Wish these bloodlines existed when i got started -------
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Scake
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Posted - 2006.03.08 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
I would go achura, ugly as they may be they have awesome attributes.
Not sure what your smoking to be honest, im bootfiul
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Forkrul
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Posted - 2006.03.08 19:02:00 -
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Achura rock (attribs-wise only. they look meh). A very very good starting achura char somewhat fighting orientated would be:
intel 9 char 3 perc 12 mem 6 will 9
Now, I made this khanid just because I didn't want another Caldari char (and I HATE the way achura look):
intel 8 char 5 perc 14 mem 4 will 8
It may have been wrong to set intel to 8 (I could get it to 9 and perc to 13) and I know it'll be absolut nightmare to get through learning skills and most support, but these are very good gunnery and t1 ss command stats (BS lvl5 etc)
If u want a 'perfect' all around -mainly fighting- char go for achura and hope charisma won't be buffed in near future (Deteis are actually very good all around chars and in general I think caldari are the best race now, nerf pls).
As for the argument above, i think it mostly depends on the skills u'll train further down your carreer:
Heavy drone user should have a bit high mem, whereas if u 're going to specialize in some T2 kind of ships u need high willpower etc.
In any case intell and perc are very important for a good character. But imho choosing a char should not only be about starting attribs. Looks, race and preferred weapons/fighting style, even some rp should play a part in it
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