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Ager Agemo
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
397
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:24:00 -
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as it stands right now, dscan is totally overpowered against anomalies, since you can see them in your normal screen.
just point with tracking camera to anomaly, dscan to 5 degrees max range, scan, if you see a ship, that ship is in said anomaly, warp to anomaly... takes about 3 seconds for an interceptor to do all this while still cloaked at the gate. |
KnowUsByTheDead
Old Seers Of Arbitrary Stimulation
730
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:54:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Poor gankers getting trolled by Fozzie.
How are ganker's being trolled by Fozzie?
D-Scan has little to do with finding targets, which is usually done with neutral alt, who is ON GRID as a warp-in.
D-Scan has little to do with Orca pilots anti-tanking their "high-sec space RV's."
D-Scan rarely gets used by miners, as evidenced by www.minerbumping.com, so that is a non-issue.
D-Scan will certainly not help miners tank their ships...
D-Scan does not help a freighter pilot who is afk'ng down the highway, hoping they will get to their destination in one piece.
Same goes for the people who afk their 1bil+ pods through high-sec. How does D-Scan help them?
I find these changes to bring quite an interesting dynamic to the game, and would welcome them. Because in the end...who needs D-Scan when you have probes?
I would also like to see exactly how gankers, griefers, and undesirables of all types are affected by this? Because even if it is not implemented, it is merely business as usual.
So please, for the sake of humanity, use logic before you post.
Kthxbye.
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |
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CCP Masterplan
C C P C C P Alliance
1551
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:19:00 -
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You're all getting excited over a misquoted typo. This actually comes from the 4th entry in an alphabetized list of new modules:
Quote:A: [REDACTED] B: [REDACTED] C: [REDACTED] D: Can Disruptor - A module that can be activated on a wreck/can to prevent items being moved in or out of it "This one time, on patch day..." CCP Masterplan -á| -áTeam Five-0: Rewriting the law |
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mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2542
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:25:00 -
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Ager Agemo wrote:as it stands right now, dscan is totally overpowered against anomalies, since you can see them in your normal screen.
just point with tracking camera to anomaly, dscan to 5 degrees max range, scan, if you see a ship, that ship is in said anomaly, warp to anomaly... takes about 3 seconds for an interceptor to do all this while still cloaked at the gate. At a 5 degree cone this is so much easier said than done. Now if you could lock the camera onto an anomaly like you can other celestials, that'd be another matter... Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
tgl3
Wormhole Engineers Greater Realms
412
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:36:00 -
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mynnna wrote:CCP Masterplan wrote:You're all getting excited over a misquoted typo. This actually comes from the 4th entry in an alphabetized list of new modules: Quote:A: [REDACTED] B: [REDACTED] C: [REDACTED] D: Can Disruptor - A module that can be activated on a wreck/can to prevent items being moved in or out of it Like the mobile depot, these can be shot in highsec without CONCORD penalty, but doing so instantly enters you into a duel state with the owner. In a nutshell, this is CCP's replacement for can flipping. So if someone had this down to protect their jetcan (or something) and I shot the disruptor, I could then shoot the original dropping pilot or would I have to wait till the original pilot shot me first? Member of the EVE Blog Pack - Through Newb Eyes
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mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2545
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:43:00 -
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The duel state would always be initiated between the pilot who shot it and the pilot who dropped it, regardless of who owned the can. Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
938
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:11:00 -
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CCP Masterplan wrote:You're all getting excited over a misquoted typo. This actually comes from the 4th entry in an alphabetized list of new modules: So about the validity of the other three mobile structuresGǪ "No comment?" I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2351
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:13:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Ager Agemo wrote:as it stands right now, dscan is totally overpowered against anomalies, since you can see them in your normal screen.
just point with tracking camera to anomaly, dscan to 5 degrees max range, scan, if you see a ship, that ship is in said anomaly, warp to anomaly... takes about 3 seconds for an interceptor to do all this while still cloaked at the gate. At a 5 degree cone this is so much easier said than done. Now if you could lock the camera onto an anomaly like you can other celestials, that'd be another matter... If you hold down a modifier key a little box appears in the middle of the screen, where your ship is. Slew the camera so that box is on top of the anomaly, and hit 5 degree d-scan.
Would not a "can disruptor" just be a griefing tool, to keep mission runners from looting their wrecks? (My guess is Masterplan is trolling us). http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6989
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:29:00 -
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CCP Masterplan wrote:You're all getting excited over a misquoted typo. This actually comes from the 4th entry in an alphabetized list of new modules: Quote:A: [REDACTED] B: [REDACTED] C: [REDACTED] D: Can Disruptor - A module that can be activated on a wreck/can to prevent items being moved in or out of it Let nobody ever say you guys don't have a sense of humor. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland Test Alliance Please Ignore
417
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:29:00 -
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The obvious counter to d-scan disruptor is to use combat probes. Since the only way to see probes is to d-scan them, this should work fine. I might even go so far as to say it would be a bad thing to use if it also disrupts the d-scans of those inside it's AoE.
If it does not, since most w-space dwellers spam d-scan religiously, it would make w-space pve safer.
Another effect would be that bombers would have no way of knowing if there is someone in a particular anom or site without warping to it unless they want to cripple their fit. In that case, might as well fly a covops frig.
I don't see this being used by blops/covops because they already have cloaks.
The strongest case for this anchorable module would be to screen ratters from interceptors that pop into system. They would be forced to warp blindly to an anom and hope they picked the right one. Free Ripley Weaver! |
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
44
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:34:00 -
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Don't mind me, I'm just watching
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https://twitter.com/ccp_lebowski |
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Da'iel Zehn
Evil Frosty's Premium Liqours and Fine Wines
59
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:50:00 -
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I like change... I like the hunt... I like being sneaky... I like hiding when I don't want to be found...
But I HATE the fact that it takes forever to find PvP and it is over in a minute or two. *sigh* And I can never find a good 1 v 1.
Combat simulator please... Daniel Zehn Keeper of Evil Frosty
PLEX for naked avatars! -á*nod nod*-á |
Masao Kurata
Z List
40
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:53:00 -
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Okay, I've reconsidered this and there is a way to make this hide fleet composition without making it too good for dodging pvp entirely: all d-scan disruptors in the system act as beacons and can be warped to from the overview. Also make them too expensive to litter everywhere casually. |
Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
227
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:54:00 -
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Da'iel Zehn wrote:I like change... I like the hunt... I like being sneaky... I like hiding when I don't want to be found...
But I HATE the fact that it takes forever to find PvP and it is over in a minute or two. *sigh* And I can never find a good 1 v 1.
If you want to easily find a 1v1, join RvB. If you want to force people into a 1v1 then don't get mad when they use tactics that subvert your playstyle. Something about the hunt being more exciting than the kill maybe. Also, why is nearly every "source" to crazy rumors the mittani's personal blog of insanity? Cute how it's asking to add it to adblock's whitelist.
inb4 damage control II Moderate strength is shown in violence, supreme strength is shown in levity. |
Da'iel Zehn
Evil Frosty's Premium Liqours and Fine Wines
59
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:58:00 -
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Perhaps CCP likes Mitanni and leaks information to him. Then they can gauge player response on the forum to decide if they want to continue development of an idea. Daniel Zehn Keeper of Evil Frosty
PLEX for naked avatars! -á*nod nod*-á |
Kate stark
984
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:59:00 -
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mynnna wrote:The duel state would always be initiated between the pilot who shot it and the pilot who dropped it, regardless of who owned the can.
that's either a crap explanation of what it does, or it's the most ******** deployable yet. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
Da'iel Zehn
Evil Frosty's Premium Liqours and Fine Wines
59
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:02:00 -
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Vicky Somers wrote:If you want to easily find a 1v1, join RvB... RvB?
Vicky Somers wrote:If you want to force people into a 1v1 then don't get mad when they use tactics that subvert your playstyle. You get mad when someone uses tactics to subvert your playstyle? That is a little silly. Daniel Zehn Keeper of Evil Frosty
PLEX for naked avatars! -á*nod nod*-á |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2222
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:29:00 -
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not sure if this is a joke or not. But why would you use yet another item to lock a container? Why not dropping locked container? if players break the lock they become suspect.
This sounds very boring and not well thought out. Just by doing simple things complicated you don't add more depth to a game.
but maybe i just misunderstood it or it really is a joke eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |
Jayne Fillon
Sanctuary of Shadows Axiomatic Dominion
149
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:42:00 -
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Da'iel Zehn wrote:Perhaps CCP likes Mitanni and leaks information to him. Then they can gauge player response on the forum to decide if they want to continue development of an idea.
Because obviously that article was written by The Mittani himself, not an independent writer for the site. Oh, and CCP gifted him that intel personally, no one happened to find it on Chaos and post it to eve-ru.
That would be crazy. Can't shoot blues if you don't have any. Long Live NPSI. |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
855
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:43:00 -
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0Lona 0ltor wrote:This will be to off set some of the but hurt caused by the inevitable removal of local.
Remove local, game over.
We have far too many risk adverse gamers for this ever to become a reality. So good luck in wishing for something that will put the game out of business in a year or two.
CCP, trading shiny pictures for playability since 2003.. EvE, a cutting edge game. The only game to provide Matrix style gameplay for the masses! (trouble is, most people don't have 9 hours to waste on a one hour fight.) |
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Da'iel Zehn
Evil Frosty's Premium Liqours and Fine Wines
59
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:45:00 -
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Jayne Fillon wrote: Because obviously that article was written by The Mittani himself, not an independent writer for the site. Oh, and CCP gifted him that intel personally, no one happened to find it on Chaos and post it to eve-ru. That would be crazy.
I was being sarcastic... lol
Daniel Zehn Keeper of Evil Frosty
PLEX for naked avatars! -á*nod nod*-á |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1910
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:20:00 -
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Vicky Somers wrote:Also, why is nearly every "source" to crazy rumors the mittani's personal blog of insanity? Cute how it's asking to add it to adblock's whitelist. i'm sure you can name a second 'crazy rumour' 'sourced' from tmc |
Traedar
InterStellar Trading Syndicate
21
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:49:00 -
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I hate to be a killjoy, but... I'm gonna. Right now I'm glad I plex my account and don't pay with a credit card. Which I haven't for a long time and won't ever, now.
I have a few questions for CCP about this line from Mittani's blog:
TheMittani.com wrote:By gaining access the developer's test server, "Chaos," Tandi was able to
1) What is this developer's test server and what sort of access was given? 2) Does this server "chaos" have production- or production-like account information? Especially usernames, passwords, emails and credit card numbers? Even if they are scrambled.
Any answer would be appreciated.
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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
692
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:59:00 -
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+1 For removing local, not that it'll ever happen. |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
8568
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:17:00 -
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Traedar wrote:I hate to be a killjoy, but... I'm gonna. Right now I'm glad I plex my account and don't pay with a credit card. Which I haven't for a long time and won't ever, now. I have a few questions for CCP about this line from Mittani's blog: TheMittani.com wrote:By gaining access the developer's test server, "Chaos," Tandi was able to 1) What is this developer's test server and what sort of access was given? 2) Does this server "chaos" have production- or production-like account information? Especially usernames, passwords, emails and credit card numbers? Even if they are scrambled. Any answer would be appreciated.
Chaos is a server we use for some of our early testing. What Tandi has access to is the patches to update a client to the test builds. These patch files are on our public content delivery system and accessing them does not require any illegal actions.
Chaos does not share any account information with TQ. Also the client patches do not contain any account information anyways. No user data is in any way accessible via this method. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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Jayne Fillon
Sanctuary of Shadows Axiomatic Dominion
149
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Posted - 2013.12.18 06:18:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Traedar wrote:I hate to be a killjoy, but... I'm gonna. Right now I'm glad I plex my account and don't pay with a credit card. Which I haven't for a long time and won't ever, now. I have a few questions for CCP about this line from Mittani's blog: TheMittani.com wrote:By gaining access the developer's test server, "Chaos," Tandi was able to 1) What is this developer's test server and what sort of access was given? 2) Does this server "chaos" have production- or production-like account information? Especially usernames, passwords, emails and credit card numbers? Even if they are scrambled. Any answer would be appreciated. Chaos is a server we use for some of our early testing. What Tandi has access to is the patches to update a client to the test builds. These patch files are on our public content delivery system and accessing them does not require any illegal actions. Chaos does not share any account information with TQ. Also the client patches do not contain any account information anyways. No user data is in any way accessible via this method.
As CCP Fozzie said, the process to get to Chaos is similar to how you change your client to Singularity instead of Tranquility. You are given a different patch, but the accounts details are not a part of that specific server so there is no security risk/breach.
It's only useful because it is used for "early testing," which can give some clues as to upcoming, unannounced features. However, as was the case with the Rapid Heavy Missile Launchers, it's always best to take these glimpses with a grain of salt - these features are being tested for a reason, and are likely if not certain to change before they hit Tranquility. Can't shoot blues if you don't have any. Long Live NPSI. |
Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
397
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Posted - 2013.12.18 07:47:00 -
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CCP Masterplan wrote:You're all getting excited over a misquoted typo. This actually comes from the 4th entry in an alphabetized list of new modules: Quote:A: [REDACTED] B: [REDACTED] C: [REDACTED] D: Can Disruptor - A module that can be activated on a wreck/can to prevent items being moved in or out of it
Awwww I was looking forward to having more huts to deploy before each anomoly. |
Sarmatiko
1504
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Posted - 2013.12.18 08:53:00 -
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Jayne Fillon wrote:It's only useful because it is used for "early testing," which can give some clues as to upcoming, unannounced features. However, as was the case with the Rapid Heavy Missile Launchers, it's always best to take these glimpses with a grain of salt - these features are being tested for a reason, and are likely if not certain to change before they hit Tranquility.
Not to mention that majority of players never interested in anything that lies right under their nose. We have Rubicon installed on Tranquility for two weeks and no one noticed that file SoundbanksInfo.xml in production EVE client have stuff like records for pirate faction carriers, freighters and supercaps sounds. Time for another shocking article on TMC? -¥ |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
936
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Posted - 2013.12.18 08:59:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:I rarely deny things I hear everyone loves the new rapid light missile launchers. Incorrect. There is an enormous number of people in the game that are either unwilling or unable to wrap their heads around how to use a powerful new mechanic to their advantage. Give it time, it won't be long before we start seeing threads about how, when properly leveraged, they are both overpowered.
They are overpowered for the targets.. because the targets always win when you use those. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Nuela
Beacon Light Corporation Beacon Light Alliance
200
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Posted - 2013.12.18 20:31:00 -
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Tauranon wrote:the immediate up in arms won't be about blocking d-scan its about identifying for CCP that...
(a) nobody wants to press d-scan a thousand times for no enemy reported. its a horrible way of telling the game that you are paying attention, and I would stop playing if that becomes required. I was on the d-scan for an hour on friday (due to my escalation resetting over DT), clearing an escalation, and I'm fine with doing that as it was a hostile system with a hostile present. I don't want to do it all day if there is nobody in system.
(b) nobody wants to be tackled whilst paying full attention. Evasion, even from a cloaked tackler has to remain a viable strategy, presuming one is careful about setup, avoids being held down by NPCs, and makes use of all available intel.
(c) there isn't a lot of point to alliance intel (in fact by and large the way my alliance coooperates cross corp), if we can't detect and report hostiles. Having to put alts on gates to do that sucks. That would require 60 alts to give us equivalent coverage, and making "2 accounts required" tasks has always been bad for EVEs reputation.
This goes back to a post I made awhile ago about whether a hunter (let's assume nullsec) should have a chance of nabbing a PvE player who is paying 100% attention and is employing 100% safeguards.
The answer many seem to be going to is "No, that PvE player should be safe with those assumptions...but let's make it near impossible and/or extremely tedious for that PvE player to do so..."
That, I don't think, is good gameplay. Trying to make a person vulnerable via tedium...
If you feel the need to go down that route then make it possible for a hunter to nab a PvE person who is 100% on the ball.
I could live with this...but I want turnabout fair play...I want to be able to hunt the hunter and, despite him being 100% careful and crafty in his hunting that I have a chance to nab HIM while he is doing so. |
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