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Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
110
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Posted - 2013.12.16 21:43:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Carmen Electra wrote:OP: Don't you want to use your anger on something more worthwhile? High-sec NPC salvage sucks, which is the only place you need to worry about concord, flags, etc. In null (and low to an extent), you shoot the people taking your salvage. That is how you counter ninja-salvagers. Carmen Electra wrote:Null plexing (in my admittedly limited experience) is more problematic. I tried for a couple of weeks and never got that golden drop. I also lost three blingtars to PvPers (I'm on the other end of that more often than not, so no hard feelings). I could have been a lot more careful, but warping out everytime there's +1 in local is not my idea of fun. Are you factoring in the dud drops, the time you spend hiding from PvPers who want to turn your mission boat into a KM into your isk/hr?
I don't understand
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17799
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Posted - 2013.12.16 21:43:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Tippia wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:[Its ok, Im a doctor Of what? Horticulture? Are you calling me a Hort? Nah. Not cultured enough. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
48
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Posted - 2013.12.16 21:50:00 -
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MTU and salvage drones ?
just saying |
Ramona McCandless
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
1507
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Posted - 2013.12.16 21:51:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Tippia wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:[Its ok, Im a doctor Of what? Horticulture? Are you calling me a Hort? Nah. Not cultured enough.
lol you can be really mean when you want to be
Another reason I like you :)
*** Vote MTU For CSM ***
Non omnis moriar |
Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Black Core Alliance
1119
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Posted - 2013.12.16 21:55:00 -
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I remember this being a HUGE deal a few years ago. Even corps set up to do nothing but steal salvage. Annoyed the hell out of me too.
Then I moved out of a mission hub. Then agents were revised so you could get level 4 Combat agents all over. Then the noctis and s/m/l rigs, which caused the market to tank.
Then, there was no more problem. In fact, I couldn't stop laughing at some guy who salvaged my wrecks the other day for some isk scraps.
Seriously, you missed the whine boat on this one by about two years or more. Maximze your Industry Potential! - Get EVE Isk per Hour! |
Milan Nantucket
New Eden Misfits
95
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Posted - 2013.12.16 22:05:00 -
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Mnethses wrote:Why aren't we allowed to fire on pirates stealing our salvage? I just spent an hour clearing GE only to lose all my salv to someone in a cormorant
I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to steal from me, just that I should be allowed to fight back if they do
Problem isn't people stealing salvage. Problem is you think the salvage is yours to begin with.
To fix the problem simply stop believing the salvage is yours. Nothing stopping you from salvaging the wrecks before someone else does. |
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
191
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Posted - 2013.12.17 00:08:00 -
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This kind of OP is exactly the kind of motivation I need to quit faction war and head up to the mission runners in Motsu |
Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
110
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Posted - 2013.12.17 00:10:00 -
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Terranid Meester wrote:This kind of OP is exactly the kind of motivation I need to quit faction war and head up to the mission runners in Motsu
You'd make more isk mining veldspar in a stock noob ship.
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Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
360
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Posted - 2013.12.17 00:12:00 -
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Carmen Electra wrote:Terranid Meester wrote:This kind of OP is exactly the kind of motivation I need to quit faction war and head up to the mission runners in Motsu You'd make more isk mining veldspar in a stock noob ship.
Isk is not the goal, tear harvesting is.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1907
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Posted - 2013.12.17 00:16:00 -
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by the way, why the hell can't we tractor yellow wrecks in exchange for a suspect tag yet |
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Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
110
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Posted - 2013.12.17 00:37:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:by the way, why the hell can't we tractor yellow wrecks in exchange for a suspect tag yet
this |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1807
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Posted - 2013.12.17 00:44:00 -
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All that I can say.
Salvage is for everyone.
Next time, Salvage Drones.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Praxis Ginimic
Vessels of the Line Bask of Fail
593
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Posted - 2013.12.17 02:13:00 -
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LAW OF SALVAGE |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
3797
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Posted - 2013.12.17 02:46:00 -
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It's been a LONG time since I've seen one of these threads.
Per CCP Mitnal:CCP Mitnal wrote:"Our policy on this is extremely clear... Salvaging is a mini-profession within EVE and does not constitute stealing." Per GM Faolchu : GM Faolchu wrote:Salvaging other peoples wrecks.... This is an intended game mechanic and is in no way an exploit. People salvaging your missions npcs or the player you just blew up are doing nothing wrong. The players are salvaging what is effectively floating rubbish in space and Concord places no value on this wreckage. Eve is a harsh place you won't always have everything go your way, its a do or die world and people do what they can to get along. If salvaging some wreckage gets them a few more ISK someone will do it, it doesn't matter who just blew it up. Per Senior GM Ytterbium : GM Ytterbium wrote:Players are still completely free to salvage other pilot wrecks at will ... and doing so is not considered as an exploit. Per CCP Prism X : CCP Prism X wrote:Why is stealing salvage OK? It's not. It shouldn't even be possible to move an item from your cargo-hold / hanger to another persons cargo-hold / hanger without opening a trade window. Before the salvage enters those containers it is not considered your stuff by the server code. Hence it's not stealing. Per CCP Incognito : CCP Incognito wrote:Had a chat with some designers this evening. Ninja salvaging is intended game play. It was always intended that the wrecks are public, the loot is private. They do not see it as a problem if others salvage your wrecks. (These quotes are kept handy for your convenience at Ironfleet.com.) Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Felicity Love
Nighthawk Exploration
1048
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Posted - 2013.12.17 03:03:00 -
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Less talk, moar shoot !
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Karrl Tian
Bourbon Bandits Anarchy.
282
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Posted - 2013.12.17 07:48:00 -
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Like the highbears would actually shoot the ninjas if they could.... |
mr ed thehouseofed
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
374
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Posted - 2013.12.17 10:12:00 -
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i use a tractor beam pull wrecks in real close i think thats what there for real gamers only need one toon-á |
Jaxon Grylls
Institute of Archaeology
32
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Posted - 2013.12.17 10:50:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:All that I can say.
Salvage is for everyone.
Next time, Salvage Drones.
Yes, salvage drones don't seem to attract hostile attention when deployed, so drop your salvagers, go off and fight the bad guys and whilst you are doing that your drones will collect all the scraps.
When they have done that then they are yours.
Not before.
OP, you have a bad attitude to the game and richly deserve all the flames you are attracting.
"Entitled, moi?"
Note: It may be out of his TZ but he does seem to have gone quiet , doesn't he? |
Jaxon Grylls
Institute of Archaeology
32
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Posted - 2013.12.17 10:53:00 -
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Read, learn and inwardly digest. |
Artemis Ellery Sazas
Shock and Awe Inc.
18
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Posted - 2013.12.17 11:21:00 -
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OMW shortly to "introduce" myself to your multi-billion isk ship. If you whine this much about some crap salvage, I can't wait for the tears when you lose your ship. |
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Logan Revelore
Minimal Solutions Aurora Irae
9
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:16:00 -
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If salvage pirates show up I'll suggest that you nuke all your wrecks to deter them. |
Dextrome Thorphan
RvB - RED Federation
88
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:19:00 -
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Logan Revelore wrote:If salvage pirates show up I'll suggest that you nuke all your wrecks to deter them.
hehe that'll do the trick |
Dextrome Thorphan
RvB - RED Federation
88
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:21:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Mnethses wrote:Then I reiterate my previous suggestion
We should be allowed to deploy some kind of scan diffusing structure, so people who want the salvage they worked for can keep it, and those who want to leave it for salvagers can do so. And I reiterate my point This is how it has worked for 30,000 years What makes you so special?
eve online has been around for 30,000 years? wow |
Dextrome Thorphan
RvB - RED Federation
88
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:22:00 -
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Electrique Wizard wrote:I fully support anyone who cleans up your space-garbage after you've done your disgusting mission running. You should be taxed and the player salvaging and cleaning up you scraps should be rewarded bounties directly from you wallet. Space clutter is no joke and I fail to see how OP is anything but a troll fishing for angry responses.
LOL wtf are you even talking about... OP wants to "clean it up" himself. (+ you do realize wrecks disappear in 2hours right?) |
Magna Mortem
Fratres Et Sorores
34
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Posted - 2013.12.17 14:32:00 -
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Dextrome Thorphan wrote:Electrique Wizard wrote:I fully support anyone who cleans up your space-garbage after you've done your disgusting mission running. You should be taxed and the player salvaging and cleaning up you scraps should be rewarded bounties directly from you wallet. Space clutter is no joke and I fail to see how OP is anything but a troll fishing for angry responses. LOL wtf are you even talking about... OP wants to "clean it up" himself. (+ you do realize wrecks disappear in 2hours right?) If you spent more time thinking about what's written, instead of plainly reacting to it, then you wouldn't be the only person around not getting it. |
March rabbit
True Horde
905
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Posted - 2013.12.17 14:46:00 -
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Mnethses wrote:Mag's wrote:Salvage doesn't exist until your salvager creates it in your cargo hold, or the drones create it and drop it off. So if pirates some how manage to steal it from you after this has happened, you can in fact shoot them. So what is your problem exactly? Ah! I have miscommunicated, my apologies; I'm talking about people who sit around high-sec in salv fit destroyers scanning down mission runners' sites and salvaging their wrecks, while the mission runner is forced to just watch, because concord wont let us fire on robbers in high sec no need to hate to those poor people....
look at it from another angle: you get tasty part (loot) and some poor bum spends his time to scrap some pennies from wrecks..... (because to be honest T1 salvage doesn't worth time lately anyway)
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6982
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Posted - 2013.12.17 14:48:00 -
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T2 salvage on the other hand... Of course that doesn't come from missions, thankfully. Otherwise it too would be pretty worthless. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
March rabbit
True Horde
905
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Posted - 2013.12.17 14:51:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:T2 salvage on the other hand... Of course that doesn't come from missions, thankfully. Otherwise it too would be pretty worthless. you don't get T2 salvage in high-sec (and this thread started about high-sec) The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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fisk Alabel
A Big Enough Lever
4
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:11:00 -
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Imagine this;
You shoot destory a Gurista pirate ship and there is now a wreck instead of a ship The wreck still belongs to the Guristas and not you. The reason the Guristas doesn't get it is because that feature is not in the game. If you are salvaging the wreck then you are stealing parts of the ship from the Guristas.
Therefore it's not your salvage. |
Haedonism Bot
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
540
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:23:00 -
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Mnethses wrote:Why aren't we allowed to fire on pirates stealing our salvage? I just spent an hour clearing GE only to lose all my salv to someone in a cormorant
I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to steal from me, just that I should be allowed to fight back if they do
You have been misinformed. You just need to click that little green button next to your HUD and set it to red. Once that is done, you are flagged for PvP and may engage those filthy salvage thieves freely. everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com |
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