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Zelarrs Elkoth
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
82
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Posted - 2013.12.19 23:55:00 -
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Morijah d'Hanguest wrote:
[information a] It is known to be one of your favourite pastimes to post links and make unfounded claims,
By the way, I must commend your gall to simultaneously fault me for posting supporting links and accuse me of making unfounded claims -- in the same sentence, no less.
Bravo! The sheer audacity is breathtaking.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Captain, Head of Diplomacy, Recruiting Officer Contact on channel: "PIE Public" "I walk the razor's edge of embracing the future while protecting what we value of the past." |
Zelarrs Elkoth
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
82
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Posted - 2013.12.20 00:00:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Zelarrs Elkoth wrote: I guess it's our company you crave? I miss a few of you a great deal, actually. My affections might take a different form but I do love all of you.
That is sweet. We seek to enlighten you too. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Captain, Head of Diplomacy, Recruiting Officer Contact on channel: "PIE Public" "I walk the razor's edge of embracing the future while protecting what we value of the past." |
Zelarrs Elkoth
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
82
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Posted - 2013.12.20 00:06:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Leopold Caine wrote:Don't forget the combat anecdotes as well. Those are fun to read, as long as they're decent and concise. Silas Vitalia wrote: And stop calling Odeyla a Heretic, we don't want her.
That's funny, I thought Sani Sabik considered True Faith Amarrians heretics. Or has it become some kind of an angsty status symbol these days? The point of reference matters. Much like I imagine PIE would not consider it accurate if I were to call Odeyla an Imperial Loyalist .
If I were to call her such, it would likely be for attacking the orthodoxy. I'll leave it in less secular hands than mine to decide that question.
Also I wasn't aware that the Sani Sabuk were claiming to be the One True Heresy now. Am afraid there are more than one group considered heretics. It's not just the blood friends.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Captain, Head of Diplomacy, Recruiting Officer Contact on channel: "PIE Public" "I walk the razor's edge of embracing the future while protecting what we value of the past." |
Ascentior
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
56
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Posted - 2013.12.20 02:29:00 -
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Morijah d'Hanguest wrote:[quote=Zelarrs Elkoth] Ah yes I must be an idiot, since I was not aware refusing to enter into arbitration was grounds for heresy.
In the Name of the Lord
I don't know to say what you are, but the one or ones who appointed someone to the position of diplomat who doesn't even get the meaning and content of a simple message, clearly are idiots. [/quote Mind your tongue! You dare speak of Lord Admiral Lok'ri in such a manner. This war is a disgusting farce.
So the heretic is offended at being called a heretic and in response, hires heretics to fight a war against true loyalists. At least that clears up any doubt of the heretic being insane.
Our pilots continue to do their work, for The Empire. |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1526
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Posted - 2013.12.20 10:54:00 -
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Now that one of the d'Hanguest sisters has put her head above the metaphorical parapet, I have a question. It's quite a simple one, so I imagine there will be no problem in getting an answer.
What do you hope to gain by these acts of aggression?
I mean, you're not going to destroy us. You're not going to improve our view of you. You're not going to convert us to your opinions.
As far as I can see, the most that you'll achieve is to distract PIE from its work in the war with the Shakorite regime and sow division in the ranks of the 24th IC. Is that what you want? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Odelya d'Hanguest
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES 24eme Legion Etrangere
216
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Posted - 2013.12.20 11:31:00 -
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Ascentior wrote:So the heretic is offended at being called a heretic and in response, hires heretics to fight a war against true loyalists. At least that clears up any doubt of the heretic being insane. Heretics everywhere again? Heresy is by definition the believerGÇÖs act of choosing the wrong and sticking to it, so that he can no longer be counted as a believer. Tell me, how can a Caldari who never was a believer be a heretic then?
If you would call us schismatics, that would still be wrong: The Khanid Orthodox Church is the only true and complete continuation and preservation of that very Church that Dano Gheinok founded on Athra.
Zelarrs Elkoth wrote:By the way, I must commend your gall to simultaneously fault me for posting supporting links and accuse me of making unfounded claims -- in the same sentence, no less. If you post the picture of Dam-Torsad and say that it is not the capital of the Empire, you are still making an unfounded claim despite the picture. You might have forgotten that the thread you posted actually involved an argument, but since you donGÇÖt seem to read and/or understand what you are posting, I can understand what you deem GÇ£supporting.GÇ¥
Zelarrs Elkoth wrote:You may note, I didn't call Odelya a heretic. She is calling us heretics. You may note that your Lord Admiral Lok'ri put our name on a list of heretics.
Rodj Blake wrote:Now that one of the d'Hanguest sisters has put her head above the metaphorical parapet, I have a question. It's quite a simple one, so I imagine there will be no problem in getting an answer.
What do you hope to gain by these acts of aggression?
I mean, you're not going to destroy us. You're not going to improve our view of you. You're not going to convert us to your opinions.
As far as I can see, the most that you'll achieve is to distract PIE from its work in the war with the Shakorite regime and sow division in the ranks of the 24th IC. Is that what you want? Profound question, Rodj. Why donGÇÖt we have some cake with Samira Kernher and discuss it? [But a little hint for now: Not everything I do I do for a GÇ£gainGÇ¥, some things are justified and need to be done. Do you fight for a gain? Or because the Lord commanded you to fight?]
Kind regards, Odelya Negin Intourtsetseg of House dGÇÖHanguest Book of Prayers GÇö GalNet Profile GÇö Viva la Legion! GÇö Laudetur Khanid! |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1526
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Posted - 2013.12.20 11:48:00 -
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Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:Now that one of the d'Hanguest sisters has put her head above the metaphorical parapet, I have a question. It's quite a simple one, so I imagine there will be no problem in getting an answer.
What do you hope to gain by these acts of aggression?
I mean, you're not going to destroy us. You're not going to improve our view of you. You're not going to convert us to your opinions.
As far as I can see, the most that you'll achieve is to distract PIE from its work in the war with the Shakorite regime and sow division in the ranks of the 24th IC. Is that what you want? Profound question, Rodj. Why donGÇÖt we have some cake with Samira Kernher and discuss it? [But a little hint for now: Not everything I do I do for a GÇ£gainGÇ¥, some things are justified and need to be done. Do you fight for a gain? Or because the Lord commanded you to fight?] Kind regards, Odelya Negin Intourtsetseg of House dGÇÖHanguest
Aah, as I thought, a complete refusal to answer.
Let me rephrase the question then, to make things easier for you: what do you hope to achieve by your acts of aggression? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Desiderya
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
550
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Posted - 2013.12.20 12:30:00 -
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Odelya d'Hanguest wrote: Profound question, Rodj. Why donGÇÖt we have some cake with Samira Kernher and discuss it? [
I'm under the impression that this'd be heresy. They are, after all, members of pie, you tart. Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. |
Odelya d'Hanguest
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES 24eme Legion Etrangere
216
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Posted - 2013.12.20 12:35:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:Aah, as I thought, a complete refusal to answer.
Let me rephrase the question then, to make things easier for you: what do you hope to achieve by your acts of aggression? Aah, as I thought, a complete refusal to real dialogue...
Let me rephrase the answer then, to make things easier for you, and see if you are just looking for some cheap exploits or are really interested in a conversation: Why donGÇÖt we meet and discuss it? You might also bring the little dove, to make things look a bit less ossified.
And another hint: If a nervous clique of fossilised reptiles and an inept leadership continues to offend you, do you just sit back and talk? Oh, wait... Yes, that is exactly what you would do... But tell me: If you canGÇÖt even take the challenge of fighting a war which is brought to your doorsteps, how can you even talk about bringing stability and order to the Empire and defeat to the Shakorites? Book of Prayers GÇö GalNet Profile GÇö Viva la Legion! GÇö Laudetur Khanid! |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1527
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Posted - 2013.12.20 13:04:00 -
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Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:Aah, as I thought, a complete refusal to answer.
Let me rephrase the question then, to make things easier for you: what do you hope to achieve by your acts of aggression? Aah, as I thought, a complete refusal to real dialogue... Let me rephrase the answer then, to make things easier for you, and see if you are just looking for some cheap exploits or are really interested in a conversation: Why donGÇÖt we meet and discuss it? You might also bring the little dove, to make things look a bit less ossified. And another hint: If a nervous clique of fossilised reptiles and an inept leadership continues to offend you, do you just sit back and talk? Oh, wait... Yes, that is exactly what you would do... But tell me: If you canGÇÖt even take the challenge of fighting a war which is brought to your doorsteps, how can you even talk about bringing stability and order to the Empire and defeat to the Shakorites?
First of all we're being condemned for not talking, then we're being condemned for just sitting back and talking.
Do make up your mind!
They say that a house divided is a house that falls. But then you already know that. After all, it's the main reason why you've been trying to provoke a civil war in the 24th IC.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3661
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Posted - 2013.12.20 13:50:00 -
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Desiderya wrote:Odelya d'Hanguest wrote: Profound question, Rodj. Why donGÇÖt we have some cake with Samira Kernher and discuss it? [
I'm under the impression that this'd be heresy. They are, after all, members of pie, you tart.
I see what you did there and I cannot stop laughing.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
2452
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Posted - 2013.12.20 15:42:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Desiderya wrote:Odelya d'Hanguest wrote: Profound question, Rodj. Why donGÇÖt we have some cake with Samira Kernher and discuss it? [
I'm under the impression that this'd be heresy. They are, after all, members of pie, you tart. I see what you did there and I cannot stop laughing.
Don't worry, I'll see that she gets her just desserts. |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3664
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Posted - 2013.12.20 15:58:00 -
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Disciplinary action for you must be a piece of cake to implement eh?
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
2452
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Posted - 2013.12.20 16:08:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Disciplinary action for you must be a piece of cake to implement eh?
It's no mere trifle, I'm telling you that. |
Anja Suorsa
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
230
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Posted - 2013.12.20 16:17:00 -
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Please, make it stop... |
Zelarrs Elkoth
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
86
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Posted - 2013.12.20 16:41:00 -
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Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:Zelarrs Elkoth wrote:By the way, I must commend your gall to simultaneously fault me for posting supporting links and accuse me of making unfounded claims -- in the same sentence, no less. If you post the picture of Dam-Torsad and say that it is not the capital of the Empire, you are still making an unfounded claim despite the picture. You might have forgotten that the thread you posted actually involved an argument, but since you donGÇÖt seem to read and/or understand what you are posting, I can understand what you deem GÇ£supporting.GÇ¥
You want us to ignore the cause of the arguments apparently, which was your screed. That's why you object every time it comes up. I am very much aware of the arguments, which is obvious, as I keep referring to them. It is you that fails at reading comprehension if you truly believe otherwise.
Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:Zelarrs Elkoth wrote:You may note, I didn't call Odelya a heretic. She is calling us heretics. You may note that your Lord Admiral Lok'ri put our name on a list of heretics.
He did, didn't he? I leave that in other hands. I was just responding to Silas there, not on the greater question.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Captain, Head of Diplomacy, Recruiting Officer Contact on channel: "PIE Public" "I walk the razor's edge of embracing the future while protecting what we value of the past." |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3669
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Posted - 2013.12.20 16:47:00 -
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Is it me, or is all this posturing a load of crepe? My eyes seem to glaze over....I donut know what to think of it all.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
2456
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:33:00 -
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Sorry, but with glaze you've jumped the shark Anslo. Where you lead I cannot follow. |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3669
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:38:00 -
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Glaze, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Ansloprise.
Its continuing mission, to seek out new discussions and original thoughts and tactics. To boldly lead where no Civire has gone before.
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
291
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Posted - 2013.12.20 18:02:00 -
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Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:Profound question, Rodj. Why donGÇÖt we have some cake with Samira Kernher and discuss it?
Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:You might also bring the little dove, to make things look a bit less ossified.
You are very mistaken if you believe that I support negotiations with you. |
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Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
455
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Posted - 2013.12.20 18:08:00 -
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I honestly found the puns to be the more relevant portion of this thread. |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3670
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Posted - 2013.12.20 18:15:00 -
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Yeah. I don't know about you, but ice scream when Odelya tries to brag like this. Why can't she just act instead of this having this ego fueling parfait?
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Constantin Baracca
326
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Posted - 2013.12.20 19:18:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Yeah. I don't know about you, but ice scream when Odelya tries to brag like this. Why can't she just act instead of this having this ego fueling parfait?
While her monetary resources may be substantial given her birthright, I'm assuming it's because she doesn't enjoy much capsuleer support that she cannot buy.
Something of a shame for you. You can help the Stormcrows attack PIE or you can help PIE fend off the Stormcrows, but if you want to voice your displeasure in your preferred manner to Odelya in person, I feel you might find it more difficult to make the appointment.
It's something of a quandary for me, as I've a great amount of respect for PIE and the work it does, but I also have several members of Stormcrows to respect. I can't say I wish either ill, so I feel somewhat saddened by any losses incurred in this little manufactured conflict. "What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"
-Matthew 16:26 |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
2456
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Posted - 2013.12.20 19:34:00 -
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I've noticed that those who are culturally Amarrian and Gallente tend to have some 'pushback' when they try to assimilate the concept of 'Just Business'. I suspect this may be due to having an over-arching plank of some sort that helps them assess the rectitude of their every action. Faith in the case of the Amarr and a Cause in the case of the Gallente.
As a good Caldari, I've never had an issue socialising with someone that I'm nominally in combat with, because duty is separate from personal feelings. Of course when you do engage Caldari on personal ground, they're every bit as emotional as the next person but, for us, the fact that shooting is involved doesn't necessarily make it personal.
I also have friends in both organisations. I'm coping with this by staying out of the middle. |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3670
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Posted - 2013.12.20 20:33:00 -
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Wait how is it a shame for me Baracca?
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Ascentior
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
61
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Posted - 2013.12.20 21:24:00 -
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Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:Tell me: If you canGÇÖt even take the challenge of fighting a war which is brought to your doorsteps, how can you even talk about bringing stability and order to the Empire and defeat to the Shakorites? I understand that to you, this war is a momentous occasion. You think you are defending your honour, after all. You searched for someone who will bring your wrath and vengeance to those who have outed you as a disgrace to your ancestors. You found a band of warriors who would take your plight to the stars and inflict righteous fury upon those who you deem unworthy. You (well, someone else) have declared war upon the mighty and stubborn PIE Inc. Watch as you (well someone else) bring this institution to its knees! To us, it was a Tuesday.
We have a job to do, and the Stormcrows are an inconvenience. We receive more resistance from Shakor's terrorists than your hired sword.
We don't have to fight this war at all. |
Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
21
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Posted - 2013.12.20 21:31:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:I've noticed that those who are culturally Amarrian and Gallente tend to have some 'pushback' when they try to assimilate the concept of 'Just Business'. I suspect this may be due to having an over-arching plank of some sort that helps them assess the rectitude of their every action. Faith in the case of the Amarr and a Cause in the case of the Gallente.
As a good Caldari, I've never had an issue socialising with someone that I'm nominally in combat with, because duty is separate from personal feelings. Of course when you do engage Caldari on personal ground, they're every bit as emotional as the next person but, for us, the fact that shooting is involved doesn't necessarily make it personal.
I also have friends in both organisations. I'm coping with this by staying out of the middle. Yeah, I try not to make friends with people unless they can be blown up and still meet for coffee later. |
Constantin Baracca
326
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Posted - 2013.12.20 21:39:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Wait how is it a shame for me Baracca?
I always thought you would be somewhat annoyed that you have to tell people you dislike them here rather than somewhere in questionable space with weapons. "What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"
-Matthew 16:26 |
Zelarrs Elkoth
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
86
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Posted - 2013.12.20 21:46:00 -
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Ascentior wrote:Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:Tell me: If you canGÇÖt even take the challenge of fighting a war which is brought to your doorsteps, how can you even talk about bringing stability and order to the Empire and defeat to the Shakorites? I understand that to you, this war is a momentous occasion. You think you are defending your honour, after all. You searched for someone who will bring your wrath and vengeance to those who have outed you as a disgrace to your ancestors. You found a band of warriors who would take your plight to the stars and inflict righteous fury upon those who you deem unworthy. You (well, someone else) have declared war upon the mighty and stubborn PIE Inc. Watch as you (well someone else) bring this institution to its knees! To us, it was a Tuesday. We have a job to do, and the Stormcrows are an inconvenience. We receive more resistance from Shakor's terrorists than your hired sword. We don't have to fight this war at all.
Precisely, we live and fight every day in a warzone.
This is a minor distraction we'd prefer not to have to deal with, but it's not a crises for us. We do condemn the act of a member of a highly valued corp hiring out mercenaries to attack us on general principle.
If your interpreting my willingness to speak with you as a sign that you've broken us and we want peace at any cost, well ... you'll be greatly disappointed. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Captain, Head of Diplomacy, Recruiting Officer Contact on channel: "PIE Public" "I walk the razor's edge of embracing the future while protecting what we value of the past." |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3670
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Posted - 2013.12.20 22:05:00 -
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Constantin Baracca wrote:Anslo wrote:Wait how is it a shame for me Baracca? I always thought you would be somewhat annoyed that you have to tell people you dislike them here rather than somewhere in questionable space with weapons. I don't tell people. I just find them and shoot...the hell you think I've been doing these past months?
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