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Decaneos
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.20 15:41:00 -
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So i was wondering if the community could help me compile a list of T2 mods that are completely worthless.
To become a Totally worthless T2 mod, the stats have to be = to or worse than there meta 4 companion AND also you can easily find the meta 4 version for less on the market.
ECM-Mutlispectral Jammer II Signal Distortion Amplifier II Adaptive Nano Plating II ECM Phase Inverter II Large Hull Repairer II Medium Hull Repairer II
Help me out here ;) will continue to try and track down worthless T2 mods when i have time! |
Decaneos
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
57
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Posted - 2013.12.20 15:41:00 -
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Reserved in case i need more space! |
kurage87
EVE University Ivy League
25
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Posted - 2013.12.20 15:42:00 -
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Target Painter II |
kurage87
EVE University Ivy League
25
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Posted - 2013.12.20 15:44:00 -
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I think Target Disruptor II as well, not as certain on that though. |
Odithia
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.20 15:47:00 -
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1MN Microwwarpdrive II 10MN Microwwarpdrive II 100MN Microwwarpdrive II |
Decaneos
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.20 15:47:00 -
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The target disruptor is cheaper tho, thus not applicable. I will be checking each one of these so that the list remains good, however if there's a delay in a item going up its cause i'm at work :) |
Dan Carter Murray
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Posted - 2013.12.20 16:49:00 -
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Odithia wrote:1MN Microwwarpdrive II 10MN Microwwarpdrive II 100MN Microwwarpdrive II
the capacitor penality is slightly less for mwd t2 that's what you're paying for http://mfi.re/?j7ldoco 50GB free space @ MediaFire.com |
Praxis Ginimic
Vessels of the Line Bask of Fail
600
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:25:00 -
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Dan Carter Murray wrote:Odithia wrote:1MN Microwwarpdrive II 10MN Microwwarpdrive II 100MN Microwwarpdrive II the capacitor penality is slightly less for mwd t2 that's what you're paying for
This one depends on where you fly. If you need to burn through bubbles out in null then t2. If on the other hand you're pulsing and oh'd mwd for low sec skirmishes then go meta 4 as they can take more heat.
With that said: Warp core stab II Sensor disruptor II SeBo II (?)
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Marc Callan
Interstellar Steel Templis De Novo
342
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:26:00 -
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Dan Carter Murray wrote:Odithia wrote:1MN Microwwarpdrive II 10MN Microwwarpdrive II 100MN Microwwarpdrive II the capacitor penality is slightly less for mwd t2 that's what you're paying for
To be precise, the capacitor penalty isn't as bad when they're inactive; when they're running, they chew up cap at a fast enough rate that they'll cap you out more quickly. Also they're more vulnerable to overheating.
(TL;DR: go meta for a continuously-burning MWD, go T2 if you're going to just pulse the MWD and need more cap for other modules.) "Nevertheless a prince ought to inspire fear in such a way that, if he does not win love, he avoids hatred..." - Niccolo Machiavelli-á |
Praxis Ginimic
Vessels of the Line Bask of Fail
600
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:32:00 -
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Right. What he said. |
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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1083
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:36:00 -
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While that is a valid point regarding the MWD that is often missed, I still think T2 MWDs are pretty ****. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2227
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:40:00 -
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neuts, nos, TDs eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |
Odithia
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:50:00 -
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Marc Callan wrote:[quote=Dan Carter Murray][quote=Odithia] (TL;DR: go meta for a continuously-burning MWD, go T2 if you're going to just pulse the MWD and need more cap for other modules.) I know that and it is the only module with such ridiculous compromise. T2 are meant to be better than Meta 4 in everything but fittings and skills requirements.
Ammo and Faction is where the variation are meant to occurs and where you pick each variation for a certain purpose.
Right now T2 MWD are useless on 80% of ships and are only sold in such magnitude because people are clueless. |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
695
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Posted - 2013.12.20 18:07:00 -
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t2 mwd is great when you plan to sit still and tank for awhile, but still need a mwd. Sure those times are few and far between, but I still wouldn't put them on the "useless" list. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Liam Inkuras
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
657
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Posted - 2013.12.20 18:28:00 -
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Small/medium/heavy energy neutralizer II I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |
Odithia
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.12.20 18:30:00 -
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Liam Inkuras wrote:Small/medium/heavy energy neutralizer II So are Nosferatu. |
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1084
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Posted - 2013.12.20 18:58:00 -
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Liam Inkuras wrote:Small/medium/heavy energy neutralizer II
These have a use purely because they're identical to meta 4, and meta 4 is rare enough to be a lot more expensive. |
Laizir
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.20 19:17:00 -
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T2 Shield Power Relay |
Niclas Solo
Caldari High Prime The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2013.12.20 19:35:00 -
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Small and medium cap boosters, large also if you don't use navy 800. Web and short point. |
Ta'krite
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.12.20 19:40:00 -
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Regardless of how situational the t2 mwds are they do not qualify for this list as they do have a stat advantage in one area.
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Drake Doe
SVER Bloodpack Insidious Empire
301
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Posted - 2013.12.20 19:43:00 -
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T2 amarr drones, excluding sentries. "The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! *pops more corn*" ---Evernub-- |
Kery Nysell
104
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Posted - 2013.12.20 20:13:00 -
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Capacitor and Shield Flux Coils, Meta 0 to Elebentybillions.
Those are just a sick joke. ... |
Jon Joringer
Zero-K
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Posted - 2013.12.20 20:54:00 -
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Niclas Solo wrote:Small and medium cap boosters, large also if you don't use navy 800. Web and short point. There's a difference of being able to fit one more navy 400 charge in the tech II medium cap booster as opposed to the meta 4. Quite handy if you are battling against neuts and so don't want to use 800s. |
Paranoid Loyd
University of Caille Gallente Federation
141
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Posted - 2013.12.20 22:13:00 -
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Decaneos wrote:The target disruptor is cheaper tho, thus not applicable. I will be checking each one of these so that the list remains good, however if there's a delay in a item going up its cause i'm at work :)
You understand this yet you presented the thread the way you did, like every fool before you.
How about a thread to nerf the loot drop of meta 4 items so their price is higher than the tech II counterparts, making the tech II counterparts more viable.
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Ta'krite
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.12.20 22:30:00 -
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Seems to me that he clearly stated what the requirements of the list were in the op, this included that the t2 mod must be more expensive than the meta 4, in the case of the t2 disrupter it is cheaper than its meta 4 counter part. So not sure what your getting at. |
Decaneos
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
57
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Posted - 2013.12.20 23:57:00 -
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[quote How about a thread to nerf the loot drop of meta 4 items so their price is higher than the tech II counterparts, making the tech II counterparts more viable. [/quote]
Cause not all Meta 4 or T2 are in this situation, im am just making a list not a statement something so people can go OH why am i buying the t2 version again ill check to see if the meta 4 is cheaper. |
Medude
Unstable Reaction Inc. Takahashi Alliance
14
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:14:00 -
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welcome to the old why is meta 4 better than T2 argument, it's not like one can be produced and the other has to be gun mined |
Miasmos
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:03:00 -
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IMHO: Forget the pricing because that is fluctuating and decided by players. Just list which t2 mods are worse statwise than meta. You could put (parentheses) in the modules you list because of price.
On that note, an excellent initiative to work such a list and +1 |
Decaneos
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:12:00 -
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most of the time the prices are significantly cheaper for the meta 4 or more expensive, in fact the SeBo (which didnt make the list as it uses 3 cap less to activate) was the closest in price.
Most of the time the Meta 4 is more expensive making the T2 a viable alternative if you have fitting to spare which is why they dont make my naughty list ho ho ho! |
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.12.21 09:47:00 -
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Tracking Disruptor II Oderint Dum Metuant |
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