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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7353
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Posted - 2013.12.27 09:12:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Having leadership who allegedly don't work IRL and only run the alliance isn't taking it too seriously?
Granted, I'm not sure how accurate that claim is, but if it is true - that's a pretty serious commitment to a video game. The organizational triumph of GSF and the CFC is not some prosperous fluke. It is the product of many people from top to bottom taking the game very very seriously. Seriously enough to put 60+ hours a week into it, to not have jobs in real life, to spend thousands of dollars on flights and bar tabs in order to lobby the developers themselves, to employ a full intelligence spy network, a full time logistics team to haul unthinkable amounts of supplies and fuel, to manage hundreds of star systems and tens of thousands of pilots, and to do it all with the same triumph in the PvP sector that the CFC has done.
The CFC is one of the greatest player organized groups in gaming history. I can't think of any other gaming group in any other MMO that had the depth and complexity of the CFC. I can't think of any other that has reached such near overwhelming control over so much of their game world. All of this is because the CFC take themselves and the game very seriously. Politics, metagaming, and personal risk included.
So don't pretend that you're just derpy underdogs who casually play the game only on the weekends. Don't try and bullshit us. You're not. You take the game just as seriously (if not more seriously) than a vast majority of the pubbies and pets you so disparage.
Edited for typos and mistypes. None of this has anything to do with what I said.
Also... what? - The Mittani does have a job in real life. It involves running a very popular gaming news website. - Citation needed on these people all putting in 60+ hours a week. - Citation needed on them all not having jobs in real life. - Who needs to spend thousands on flights when the players elect you to CSM and CCP pays to send you to Iceland on their own dime? - Other alliances have intelligence networks, logistics teams, etc.
Seriously, we have a lot of directors and people working in their teams to make these things happen. Of course they're people highly dedicated to the game. Nobody said otherwise.
All I was saying is that he was taking the political bullshit and bantering too seriously. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7353
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Posted - 2013.12.27 09:15:00 -
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Seriously, that was a gigantic waste of words there Katrina. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5773
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Posted - 2013.12.27 09:34:00 -
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I think we all know that The Mittani sends his regards to way too many people.
Montolio definitely enjoyed his, right guys? ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5773
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Posted - 2013.12.27 09:35:00 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:M1k3y Koontz wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Because the ability to coordinate warps is equatable to having a single person wield an entire fleet's alpha perfectly negating any error from differences in human interaction among them, not to mention bypassing their scan resolution and lock range entirely. Warp speed is negated in a fleet warp, scanres is negated in drone assist. The whole fleet initiate warp and hit grid at the same time, the whole fleet's alpha hits the target at the same time with drone assist. The difference is navigation vs weaponry, its the same concept. The problem is that, with fleet warp you go with the speed of slowest ship, but when it comes to assists, you use fastest locking speed (unless you're terrible). Besides, achieving synch in warp with different ships is impossible because you can't choose to warp slower than at max speed unless you use fleet warp, while drone assists just facilitate something everyone can do already... Except that it ignores EWar and allows you to use someone else's stats instead of ones of your ships (which are set for a reason). You might use a slower ship, as long as it is the one that cannot be damped (can use a local sensor boost, of course) or jammed because it is ecm immune.
Note that these drone assist ships cannot actually lock the targets their drones are. Like the dominix locking to, let me check...
Dominix has drones shooting to 200 km, but the ship itself could never target that far, I'm looking at a 87.5km targeting range on one of these fits. Not bad, since most turret sniper fits need to actually be able to lock their target. Instead, just need one seboed ship. And apparently titans lock to 250km anyway. An aeon without any sensor boosters, er I see 182km, so one sebo, ecm immune ship will take care of all your targeting needs for 200 battleships.
Drone assist is balanced. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over. |
blabla4711
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.12.27 10:52:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote: - The Mittani does have a job in real life. It involves running a very popular gaming news website.
antic ..... exactly noone outside of your gooniverse even knows about this sorry excuse of " a very popular gaming news website".
There are cheap blogs about collecting stamps on the south pole who get more attention ..... You call that a job? Thank you. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9310
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Posted - 2013.12.27 11:03:00 -
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blabla4711 wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: - The Mittani does have a job in real life. It involves running a very popular gaming news website.
antic ..... exactly noone outside of your gooniverse even knows about this sorry excuse of " a very popular gaming news website". There are cheap blogs about collecting stamps on the south pole who get more attention ..... You call that a job? Funny. Youve just proven the post you tried to counter.
He got press passes given for E3. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
blabla4711
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.12.27 11:06:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: He got press passes given for E3.
And that is a prove to ... exactly what? Right. Nothing.
Outside in the real world ... you know ... where Pizzas come from ... you get press passes for eating your meal without any accident for 2 weeks.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7353
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Posted - 2013.12.27 11:07:00 -
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blabla4711 wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: - The Mittani does have a job in real life. It involves running a very popular gaming news website.
antic ..... exactly noone outside of your gooniverse even knows about this sorry excuse of " a very popular gaming news website". There are cheap blogs about collecting stamps on the south pole who get more attention ..... You call that a job? Funny. Youve just proven the post you tried to counter. What are you trying to say with this post? I seriously doubt you actually believe it.
Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9310
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Posted - 2013.12.27 11:26:00 -
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blabla4711 wrote:baltec1 wrote: He got press passes given for E3.
And that is a prove to ... exactly what? Right. Nothing. Outside in the real world ... you know ... where Pizzas come from ... you get press passes for eating your meal without any accident for 2 weeks. BBC, CNN, and Faux news list TheMittani under other news sites.
So feel free about getting a press pass to the next E3 in the real pizza world. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
2215
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Posted - 2013.12.27 13:13:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:they are trying to bait our intelligent supercap FCs into a moronic welp
Pretty sure we are all more than comfortable with the current payment of 45-50 dreads weekly and an almost regularly scheduled thrice weekly dictor holocaust. |
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9311
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Posted - 2013.12.27 13:25:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:they are trying to bait our intelligent supercap FCs into a moronic welp Pretty sure we are all more than comfortable with the current payment of 45-50 dreads weekly and an almost regularly scheduled thrice weekly dictor holocaust.
Welcome to capitals online, please enter the meatgrinder in an orderly line. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
2215
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Posted - 2013.12.27 13:31:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Welcome to capitals online, please enter the meatgrinder in an orderly line.
I find myself on the Grinder side of this whole ordeal, not so much the Grindee (I have a stable internet connection, so I'm sadly never in any real danger :toot:)
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Zulu Death Mask
Yaxchilan
15
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Posted - 2013.12.27 16:22:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:they are trying to bait our intelligent supercap FCs into a moronic welp Pretty sure we are all more than comfortable with the current payment of 45-50 dreads weekly and an almost regularly scheduled thrice weekly dictor holocaust.
Staying true to your "accurate" kugu-persona I see..
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Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative
812
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Posted - 2013.12.27 17:47:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote:i mean, this is the first war goons will have that isnt them shitting on their own pets and renters in a long ass time We don't have pets, and this is the first time we've had renters. eh, pretty much everyone in the CFC besides goons is a second-class citizen, which makes them renters, their isk just goes to buying pre-made body bags for the meat grinders instead of directly into the alliance wallet Only people outside of the CFC buy this little story people keep trying to spin. When I was in RAZOR it certainly wasn't true. when my friend was in goons a couple eyars back, he mentioend alot about the meatshield "pets" the FC's alwasy threw at the bus first.
maybe its chnaged in the last year and a half, dunno. |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
933
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Posted - 2013.12.27 18:07:00 -
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Zulu Death Mask wrote:Xolve wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:they are trying to bait our intelligent supercap FCs into a moronic welp Pretty sure we are all more than comfortable with the current payment of 45-50 dreads weekly and an almost regularly scheduled thrice weekly dictor holocaust. Staying true to your "accurate" kugu-persona I see..
Staying true to your puppet master I see?
Coining a new abbreviation:
JAFMA
CCP, trading shiny pictures for playability since 2003.. EvE, a cutting edge game. The only game to provide Matrix style gameplay for the masses! (trouble is, most people don't have 9 hours to waste on a one hour fight.) |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2747
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Posted - 2013.12.27 18:38:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote: None of this has anything to do with what I said.
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All I was saying is that he was taking the political bullshit and bantering too seriously. ...
Seriously, that was a gigantic waste of words there Katrina.
Fair enough, but let's be honest... every post in GD is a waste of words. :D
Quote:Also... what? - The Mittani does have a job in real life. It involves running a very popular gaming news website.
No offense, but that's not a job. It may be an income, or even a business, but it's not a 'job'.
Quote:- Citation needed on these people all putting in 60+ hours a week. - Citation needed on them all not having jobs in real life.
I have no citations. It was taken off the grapevine. If it's not true, well, alright then. I'd be willing to wager it is true for some, though I'd have no proof.
Quote:- Who needs to spend thousands on flights when the players elect you to CSM and CCP pays to send you to Iceland on their own dime?
I did not know CCP pays for those flights. My mistake.
Quote:- Other alliances have intelligence networks, logistics teams, etc.
Yes, and even for a small alliance it's a horrible soul and time sucking job. How CFC or even just GSF manages to do it, I can't even fathom it. This is mostly the reason I believe the 60+ hours claim, because that's what I figure it would take to get the job done.
Anyways. I mean no offense with these words. I misunderstood your point, and you can blame spiked eggnog for the wall of text that followed.
I concede the floor to you, good sir. Ch+˝j+ě Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1233
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Posted - 2013.12.27 19:53:00 -
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Sal Landry wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Ivanna Logoffski wrote:Capitals were never meant to stomp the crap out of subcaps. Says who? Were you on the original design team for capitals? Can you maybe share some of the original design notes for capitals? Do you also believe that frigates should be untouchable by Battleships and Battlecruisers? Do you think it would be ok that since in your 'ideal' world caps can hurt subcaps that the reverse would be true as well in that subcaps can't hurt caps and you need caps to fight caps? Do you live in an imaginary world where all of the nerfs to supers never happened? Titans and motherships as well as dreadnaughts all ate large nerfs in the last few years specifically to their ability to engage subcaps. Carriers were saved from losing their non-fighter drones specifically because they were supposedly still weak enough to be engaged by subcaps, something which is obviously no longer true. So one would think you'd be a bit more cautious about openly crowing how your carrier fleet is immune to all subcaps. Yeah. Currently a carrier with sentries (garde II's especially) can insta blap any ship - including interceptors (smallest ship in EvE) better than any subcap.
The Ishtar and Domi have tracking bonus (25%) but that doesn't make up for the additional 10 sentries that can be fielded by a carrier.
In addition the Ishtar can fit 2 flights of sentries, the Dominix a little more but carriers? hundreds of flights of sentries lol. |
Leigh Akiga
Trickle Down Economics
473
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Posted - 2013.12.27 20:06:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Yeah. Currently a carrier with sentries (garde II's especially) can insta blap any ship - including interceptors (smallest ship in EvE) better than any subcap.
This is why the archon is the new drake and the sentry drone is its HML. Even better than the drake because of the exponentially higher EHP, the thing can do logistics at the same time. Its like- why would you ever need to fly another ship ever again? Just train a perfect archon and you're set for 0.0 warfare.
Fleet comp of the future guys right here. I guess thats why the amarr carrier skill book appeared on my spreadsheet of fast movers, big margins and high isk volume
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4029
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Posted - 2013.12.27 22:19:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Let's face it.
Carriers need to be rebalanced anyway, and so do dreads, supers, and titans. When pretty much every alliance (except TEST because they're special) tells their members to train Archons to the exclusion of all other carriers, that's a pretty surefire sign of an imbalance.
And a SOV revamp in a pear tree. GÖ˝ |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5785
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Posted - 2013.12.27 23:04:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Yeah. Currently a carrier with sentries (garde II's especially) can insta blap any ship - including interceptors (smallest ship in EvE) better than any subcap. This is why the archon is the new drake and the sentry drone is its HML. Even better than the drake because of the exponentially higher EHP, the thing can do logistics at the same time. Its like- why would you ever need to fly another ship ever again? Just train a perfect archon and you're set for 0.0 warfare. Fleet comp of the future guys right here. I guess thats why the amarr carrier skill book appeared on my spreadsheet of fast movers, big margins and high isk volume Have you trained into an Archon? ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over. |
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Zulu Death Mask
Yaxchilan
16
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Posted - 2013.12.28 07:50:00 -
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What exactly is needed for CCP to respond with a relevant comment? Goat sacrifices?
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
986
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Posted - 2013.12.28 08:15:00 -
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Zulu Death Mask wrote:What exactly is needed for CCP to respond with a relevant comment? Goat sacrifices?
They do not answer to balance threads until they have a proposition in mind and discussed with the CSM.
Tiercide is reachign recons and pirate ships, then will be the time of t3 and then finnaly CApitals.
Do not expect any change before next chirstmas. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Ivanna Logoffski
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:05:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Zulu Death Mask wrote:What exactly is needed for CCP to respond with a relevant comment? Goat sacrifices?
They do not answer to balance threads until they have a proposition in mind and discussed with the CSM. Tiercide is reachign recons and pirate ships, then will be the time of t3 and then finnaly CApitals. Do not expect any change before next chirstmas.
Since carriers are far more damaging to the game in their current state then T3's will ever be, I would be surprised if they don't deal with the caps before T3.
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
987
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:15:00 -
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Ivanna Logoffski wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:Zulu Death Mask wrote:What exactly is needed for CCP to respond with a relevant comment? Goat sacrifices?
They do not answer to balance threads until they have a proposition in mind and discussed with the CSM. Tiercide is reachign recons and pirate ships, then will be the time of t3 and then finnaly CApitals. Do not expect any change before next chirstmas. Since carriers are far more damaging to the game in their current state then T3's will ever be, I would be surprised if they don't deal with the caps before T3.
Its nto on CCP historical record to make fast change to their plans "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Leigh Akiga
Trickle Down Economics
476
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Posted - 2013.12.28 19:05:00 -
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I figure we got about 2 years before any of this stuff is even glanced at so I'm training sentry 5 and archon 5 on all my characters! yay me |
Phyrr
The Gosimer and Scarab
1
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Posted - 2014.01.01 18:58:00 -
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So basically CCP need to fix human nature? I know CCP means Crowd Control Productions, but this is going too far. People form big blobs because that what people always do when their homeland is threatened. It is impossible for CCP to fix blobs because people blob, it has nothing to do with game mechanics. Anyone who isn't ******** will always bring as many ships as possible to the field. If there are environmental constraints then, people will still bring the maximum allowance to the field.
People always exploit the tactics that work over those that don't. WWI wasn't WWII because tanks prevented trench warfare from happening again. I think it is silly to intervene with game mechanics because you are sick of "being in the trenches". Welcome to 0.0, you wanted territorial disputes, so you got them, you engineered the tactics being deployed against you, by being infuriating with the tactics that led to that adaptation. If these tactics are slowly corroding your resolve and the "fun" you are having in blob warfare (0.0 will always be blob warfare, it is it's defining feature) then don't bother. You want ownership of territorial assets? Then be prepared for a drawn out "unfun" experience where the other side will deploy as many "I-win" buttons as possible. Just because you don't find it fun, doesn't change anything. If it's not slowcats, it's DD, if it's not drake fleets, it's because of falcon. The blob remains and the emergent gameplay remains. If CCP never nerfed any blob warfare tactics at all, tactics would have changed anyway. If Titan DD had never been nerfed, the supercap fleets would be the dominate fleets in eve right now, as they still actually are anyway. Warfare is about who can deploy the most most heavy hitting, survivable strategies possible, so how can you nerf this out of existence? Stating that 0.0 would have become a DD fest means nothing really, but it certainly wouldn't have made slowcats viable. Additionally if you did still have AOE DD, tactics would have changed to adapt to this reality and just like the cold war, stalemates of who is gonna press their big red buttons first would have emerged. Subcaps would have been obsolete, but then they can move quickly around systems, whereas cap fleets need fuel and logistics. Aircraft carriers are the core of naval power in reality, it is no surprise that they have the same effect in EVE. Whatever gets nerfed, the same issues will remain and our ship classes will become more and more homogenized until it becomes boring to play.
If you don't enjoy slowcat fights, then don't have them. You can't have your cake and eat it. What is a "fun blob" fight anyway? The one where you are the first to deploy the slowcat strategy with superior numbers, is it not? That feeling of having the ultimate strategy. You know when people first deployed tanks, the best counter was....tanks, catch my drift? Do you all live in some fantasy world where everything works the way you want it to? Warfare, contrary to popular belief, is never fun, especially for the losing side. Bitterness is assured and someone is always the bigger / smaller, better / less adapted fish in the pond. You don't seem to realize that the activities you engage in within 0.0 are all of your own creation, praying to the god's has never brought a single victory to any nation, ever. Bigger guns and superior "exploitation" of environmental and technological factors has always brought victory. The Falklands war was won simply because the Brits had longer ranged naval vessels and more experience in using them, perhaps they should have donated this tech and strategy to the Argentinians prior to engaging, it's only fair right?
/end rant
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6027
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Posted - 2014.01.01 19:04:00 -
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praying to the gods has never tracking titans ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Phyrr
The Gosimer and Scarab
1
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Posted - 2014.01.01 19:05:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:praying to the gods has never tracking titans K
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Phyrr
The Gosimer and Scarab
1
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Posted - 2014.01.01 19:16:00 -
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In fact any attempt to address these issues or any other issues relating to 0.0 blob warfare, should be in the form of additions to the game, not subtractions. Technology needs to move forward to provide counters, not go backwards. I think the nerf-bat is not fun in the long term, nor is it good for immersion. New ships, classes, modules, structures, environments, new tech levels, all of these things with add further stratification and available tactics and more importantly, fun to the game. No war is won by reducing the abilities of your forces.
I have a better whine for CCP, where is our ability to continue to evolve and continue to have an arms race that doesn't end with a galaxy full of titans? More stuff and diversity, not less please. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6029
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Posted - 2014.01.01 19:19:00 -
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Supertitans with an Area of Effect "Doomsday" weapon
They will be very rare, a large alliance might have two, at -most- three of them.
They can also fire this area of effect weapon through a cyno ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
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